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grantar2
Practice Center Rant
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Sunday September 10, 2017 8:57 PM
I realize American Golf isn't likely to see this rant, and yes I have conveyed my feelings to the course, but I felt the need to rant. I am a long time member and advocate for the American Golf Players Club, I feel I get my money's worth from the lower course fees, booking fees, $5 Lake Forest Practice Center 9 hole rounds, and daily allotment of range balls.

However, part of belonging to the practice center is the use of the chipping and pitch facility for a slight $2 fee. Decided I needed to work on my chipping, pitching, and sand game Thursday so I went over and got a shag bag of balls. For pitching the facility is a little small, but workable. Flop shots can be done as well and there are areas mown to simulate fairways and areas of deep rough, good enough.

My complaint with the simulated greens and the bunkers. It's hard to pitch into a spot when the greens are cut more like poorly cared for fairways than greens. Hard to work on controlling roll out which is why you practice the shot. Even worse than the condition of the practice greens are the bunkers. I have never seen bunkers (plural) with more rocks in them. I play the course fairly regularly and don't find rocks in the bunkers out on course, but the practice bunkers were loaded with them. I didn't hit any, but would have been pissed if I dinged my brand new Mac Daddy II's.

If this were the free practice area at some golf courses I would be disappointed in the course, but for the Lake Forest Practice Center to have poor grade practice areas is inexcusable.

Thanks for letting me rant.
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cencalhack
RE: Practice Center Rant

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Monday September 18, 2017 10:31 AM
My favorite practice rant is---

EVERY PRO EVER -- "always aim at a target and know your distances"

Most ranges -- a few faded flags spread over acres of ground with inaccurate sign giving supposed yardages
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sngernz
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Monday September 18, 2017 11:34 AM
As a golfer who enjoys spending time pitching/chipping, I feel your pain. I've been to the LFPC a few times, I know what you're talking about ... it is what it is: a low end facility. If you get a deal on the range balls then at least that's a good thing. And you'll never get any satisfaction from AmGolf ... they're only focused on the bottom line.

If you want to step up in OC and cannot afford a private club to practice your short game, try Oak Creek in Irvine. You 'rent' a tube for like $8 to chip on their very large practice green which is usually in very good condition with many hitting areas to drop your balls (you can also hit those 23 balls out on the range when done chipping). Or, Tijeras Creek has a nice chipping green (free) but limited on hitting areas to choose from.

Not too many public courses have chipping greens that are similar to the greens on the course, but they're out there. El Dorado, Lakewood, and Skylinks come to mind, as does Costa Mesa nearer where you live ... all free.

A suggestion: get a tube (or shag bag) and load it with your own balls, preferably brands you regularly use but have taken them out of play for whatever reason. Using range balls when chipping/pitching will not give you the same feel, spin, and roll as, say, a ProV or other quality ball.
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grantar2
RE: Practice Center Rant
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Tuesday September 19, 2017 10:27 AM
True, which is why I like working the instrumented bays at the PGA Super Store, and even more I like my Laser Range Finder. I pick a spot, get the distance and go to work.

Totally agree with your complaint though. Best range for marking I have seen yet was at Riverwalk.
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Tuesday September 19, 2017 4:26 PM
FYI Arthur, the balls at LFPC are dumbed down because people kept hitting over the far fence and homeowners complained. I'm told the balls there fly about 10% less than regular balls, so using the laser to the available targets will throw off your distances for your preferred clubs.
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sparky14
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Tuesday September 19, 2017 7:21 PM
I joined the LF players club a few months ago mostly for the grass range access. But to get a large bucket, when I can only hit about half a bucket, and to have to play $2 for grass access, kind of makes the deal not so great. Adding in the restricted flight balls as Dave mentioned - so I finally submitted my cancellation yesterday. I just wasn't getting what I wanted out of that range. I got spoiled when I was working in San Diego right my the Miramar Air Base, where I could get on and hit real balls on the grass for $3. The commute sucked, but that range was a deal! Now my commute is better, but a decent range is going to cost me.
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grantar2
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Tuesday September 19, 2017 8:01 PM
Good to know, thank you.
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grantar2
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Tuesday September 19, 2017 8:05 PM
I don't belong to LF Players club for the range balls, I seldom beat range balls unless I am working out a kink, prefer the PGA Super Store range. Having said that I can get out on course twice a week at LF for $5 a round with drink. (bought a drink after the round yesterday and it set me back $3.50 for a Coke Zero Sugar so I guess the round is nearly free). Also play Casta del Sol for $19, Fullerton for $19, Coyote Hills for $15, Rancho San Jaquine for $29 (crappy course), and can play Sky Links and a few others for less that normal. That is where the value is to me.
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1PLUS1
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Tuesday September 19, 2017 11:04 PM
I'm not familiar with the Lake Forest Practice Center but from what I could gather, I'd hardly classify it as...nor expect it to be...a state-of-the-art facility. The obvious giveaway would be it's association with the American Golf Corporation. Moving beyond that, to "rant" that the condition of the practice bunker/green doesn't mirror what you are used to encountering at your typical daily-fee course seems a bit unreasonable. I can understand the level of frustration but your gripe is akin to walking out of Outback and complaining that the steak doesn't taste as good as the one you had at Fleming's a few weeks prior.

If you're willing to accept the facility's limitations...and realize that you get what you pay for...perhaps your disappointment will be tempered. Is the practice bunker/green really geared towards the serious player intent on improving his technique or merely a "token" addition to the other amenities? And while conditions may be less than ideal...although there's no excuse for having rocks in the bunker...isn't short-game practice all about honing a technique and developing a feel for what's being served on the plate that particular day?

But if you're seeking a place where shot "roll out" is more predictable and closer to everyday playing conditions, you may be out of luck unless you head out to Palm Desert and spend the day at Shadow Ridge. I can't think of a better open-to-the-public practice complex in Southern California and the $25.00 all day access fee is a fantastic bargain (fee is waived if you are playing the course). Sure, it would be nice if such facilities existed closer to home, but if that isn't the case, it's probably best to make do with what is available and accept things for what they are.


[[Edited by 1PLUS1 on Wednesday September 20, 2017 2:10 AM]]
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Wednesday September 20, 2017 1:10 PM
Green River is (was?) a great place to practice. It's been a while since I've been there but I assume they still have the practice hole you can rent by the hour. It includes range balls and cart to get to it. It's 100 yds with bunker and real green. It's a hole left over from when they consolidated the two courses.
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