Played Dad Miller's for the 150th time. Slow and bumpy greens, tight lies in fairways, and suspicious sand in the bunkers. I may play here maybe only one hundred times this year I detest the place so much. About the only good things I can say about this course are competent guys behind the counter, super nice and functional marshalls, accomplished resident pros (James and Sokol) and the hottest bartenders this side of the Santa Ana River (females - Greg doesn't count.) dand

Four hour round is rare - even for foursomes here. This would help - on #15 drop in a large diameter culvert pipe and fill the ditch in with dirt! this alone would take 15 to 30 minutes off a round. Get a hold of Tiger and ask him to underwrite the cost of filling the ditch on #15. Failing that put alligators in the ditch so people will stop going in there to look for balls! dand

Just played it Thursday - 3 hrs. 45 min. Neat layout, wide open off tees, cow pasture fairways, sub-par greens and bunkers but still fun and a bargain to boot. Of course, like all public courses around here one feels transported to South Korea. dd