**First, I just want to preface this review by stating that the Chino Creek course suffered some pretty serious flood damage from the storms last week. Some holes were clearly under 2-3 feet (or more) of rushing water at that time. With that in mind, I tried to be fair in my review.

We booked a Sunday early afternoon tee time for a very reasonable rate. However, with this being the nicest weekend weather in the last couple months - the course was very busy. That, combined with the flood damaged conditions on some holes (especially Back 9) meant we were sent off about 45 minutes after our scheduled time. We received a small discount, but I believe the communication from the staff could have been better instead of just "We're waiting for carts".

A big annoyance is that decided to send out foot golf groups behind us, including two groups of teens who may or may not have understood the rules of golf. The first group simply played through us without even acknowledging our existence. The second group came behind them and tried to "tee up" while we were ready on the tee. We screamed at them to stop but they didn't seem to care. Eventually, we did let them play through, but we shouldn't have to handle that. The clubhouse needs to communicate the rules better, and to place a larger gap between the last golf group and the foot golf groups.

Overall, the course is in ok shape considering the flood damage. Greens are quite nice and some of the best you'll find on a course like this one. Same with the tee boxes. Fairways on non flood-damaged holes were ok, but not terribly bad, good enough. The fairways on 2, 10, and 11 had a lot of mud damage. #10 and #11 fairways were mostly unplayable. Basically dried up mud with grass patches.

Even with the course condition, and the foot golf nonsense, this was an enjoyable round. You get what you pay for, but it's a good price. I would really like to play this course again in a few months when it has a time to recover.

Haven't played Arroyo Trabuco in a few years, despite the fact that it is one of the closer courses to my home. I had heard it had gone downhill a bit, but saw recently through reviews here on GK that it has apparently improved. Thought I would give it another try with a couple friends.

Took advantage of a super twilight tee time for $40, which I feel was a decent deal. Course is in decent shape with a couple disappointing problems. The course generally has very tight lies in fairways, and many opportunities to use side boards and the like to run the ball up on approaches which is kind of fun. Greens are kind of slow, and most are in good shape, but the affects of the fungus problem linger. The uphill par 4 6th hole has a green where they had the back portion roped off and the front part of the green is in rough shape, splotchy and uneven. The par 3 8th has a temporary green in front of the regular green...and is playing only 85 yds from the whites, what a disappointment.

Sand was a little too firm for my taste, but they looked consistent (was only in there once). Tee boxes and rough good shape.

We did not see a cart girl during our round. This is understandable considering our late tee time, but the pro shop said she stays out there fairly late and we were kind of waiting for her. We saw her near the clubhouse after our round and asked her if we could use our drink tickets for a water/gatorade in the pro shop. She was about to leave, but offered to go into the closed snack bar and grab us some drinks. That was so awesome, I wish I remembered her name. Great service.

So, my overall thought is they need to finish the work they're doing on the greens, and this course will be "back" in my opinion. Still, it was fun and I probably see myself coming back more often.

Wow, Shorecliffs, what an improvement. It was my first time playing the course in roughly 2+ years and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. Paid $25 via online special for early twilight tee time on a Friday...and it's a good deal.

The thing this course has always had going for is its unique, challenging, and yes, sometimes quirky layout. It was just a matter of improving some things, and they are well on their way to doing that. Greens were always kind of bland as far as layout, but usually decent. The big change is now instead of ultra-slow, they are somewhat fast. It took me a few holes to adjust. Tee-boxes are downright awesome compared to the old days. They used to be abysmal. Fairways are ok, but playable. Rough is still a patchwork hodgepodge of crabgrasses and other stuff...that's maybe the biggest thing left to improve. Pace of play was satisfactory, around 4 1/2 hours.

Customer service was good. I was a single and the starter took the initiative and paired me with another single as a twosome, instead of pairing me with the threesome (a family) that preceded us and was at my scheduled tee time. The locals hanging out around the men's club and restaurant are definitely a bit "crusty", but they are friendly folks.

Keep up the improvements Shorecliffs!

Played the Ike for the first time in 2-3 years. This was in a corporate shotgun scramble tournament. The course definitely played a little easier than the last time I was here. Last time I played here was after a very wet rainy spell, and the rough was absolutely thick and brutal. This time it was much fairer, still lush, but not wet and long. Every aspect of the course was great with the exception of some greens. There were significant bare spots near the fringe on some holes...#12 green comes to mind as especially bad. But the hole locations were usually well away from those problems areas, so it really didn't affect things that much. Looks like some maintenance is coming up so that is likely the reason for the greens being a little funky. Must say that the bunkers were actually a joy to play out of. Perfect condition.

The staff was very solid as usual. The Ike is always a fun experience and I'll be back again.

Industry Hills Golf Club Review
Los Angeles California Golf Club Reviews

Played on a Saturday afternoon super twilight post-aeration special for $40. A great deal by any measure. Despite gloomy weather, course was very busy. Staff was doing a great job of getting people out in time, and the spacing between groups was decent. We were waiting on most tee shots, but nothing I would consider excessive. Cart girl was around twice on front 9, and saw here one more time on back.

Greens were in pretty good shape considering they were aerated on 3/20. They're almost healed, but it was a bit bumpy as you would expect, no big deal. Fairways were soft, but immaculate. Rough was lush and beautiful, about 2-3 in. and due to the dampness of the day, sometimes quite punitive. Bunkers in great shape and most importantly consistent. The tee boxes (specifically the white's) on a couple of the scenic back 9 par 3's were hacked up pretty good, my only minor, minor complaint.

Finished 16 holes in 4 hours before darkness, probably could have snuck in another hole or two, but decided against it. Overall, always a great course, and for $40 for 16 holes a steal.

Tijeras Creek Golf Club Review
Orange County California Golf Course Reviews

First time at Oak Creek. $94 dollar twilight rate, so I had certain expections - even though this is Orange County...First off, I expected to finish based on our 1:10 tee time (actually teed off 5 min or so early). Sunset is at 5:15 or so, I felt we should be able to finish by 5:45 when it got too dark. Of course, they stacked us right on top of each other, and by the time we hit the 5th or 6th hole, we were waiting on every shot. We almost made it, played 17 in almost complete darkness. No marshalls in sight, ever.

The course itself is questionable whether it is worth the rate as well. The do a good job of making the course seem like it is secluded, even though you are smack dab in the middle of Irvine. The fairways are indeed dormant...but they are consistent and in good condition, not that big a deal, but again, this is a $94 twilight course, so, again, expectations. The rough is OK, it appears they've used crabgrass killer in many areas. I thought the greens were kind of slow (especially since there was a Santa Ana wind the night before), but they weren't bumpy. Small greenside bunkers seemed to be soft and in good shape. The large waste bunkers were definitely more hard pan, but that is kind of typical of any course.

Service from staff was friendly and cordial. The cart girl greeted us a couple times early, so that was good sign. But, at around the 6th hole, she said she was done for the day! This was at 2:30 pm or so? I don't get it. They charge us these green fees but they can afford to pay the cart girl her $8/hr for a couple more hours? Ridiculous. Food was expensive, but it was actually pretty good and prepared on time. You can order from the GPS screen on your cart.

Bottom line, I don't see myself ever justifying coming back here at these rates. I would rather pay $30 more and play Monarch Beach, or pay a few dollars less and play Tijeras Creek.

Oak Creek Golf Club Course Review
Irvine California Golf Course Reviews

Played at Fullerton this past weekend for the first time in a couple years. The course really hasn't changed much, but for $20 or so on a Saturday it is really hard to complain about anything. If you know what this course is about before playing here, you should have a decent time. Greens were actually in better shape than I remember, some ball mark issues on the Par 3s but not too bad. Fairways are thin and like concrete as always. Very narrow course, so the fast fairways doesn't help, especially on doglegs off the tee.

The 1st hole has some irrigation work ongoing, so that meant the whole right rough along that fairway was Ground Under Repair. Not a huge deal. Saw the cart girl twice, and pace of play was not bad.

Played last tee time before twilight on a Saturday afternoon. Called two days ahead and that was the only available tee time. Course is definitely as advertised, beautiful views of San Diego Harbor on almost every hole. Course conditions are very good for a municipal course as well. Greens are slow but very consistent. The holes themselves are not too remarkable, but again, the atmosphere and scenery more than makes up for it. Pace of play was not too great. Finished in about 5 1/2 hours. Cart girl was around early and often. Highly recommend playing this course...not for the challenge per say, a low handicapper will score early and often here, but for the surroundings and just an all around fun time.

Played Sat 2/20 for $75 at 12:30ish tee time. Despite all the rains, course is in pretty good shape. Obviously, still sporadic ground under repair areas, the fires did burn the hills around the course a couple of years ago, so the drainage issues are very understandable. Doesn't really affect play at all. Greens in good shape, and were medium fast. The transition to kikuyu is in effect, but no quite noticeable yet. Course workers were insistent that they will keep it very tight when the kikuyu takes full effect. Rough is quite lush like most courses right now, but not as punitive as other courses. Sand was in ok/good shape. I was in the sand maybe 3 times, and had one hard packed lie where I couldn't dig under the ball and skulled it. Happened to a couple other people in my group as well.

Overall, pretty good experience, cart girl was around early and often. One issue I had was that we couldn't get an after round cocktail due to a wedding right in the bar/restaurant area.

Played on 2/12, around 12:30 tee time at what I think is a steal of a rate, $55 on c4tt. This course is a tough one for sure. In fact, due to the recent rains the rough is consistently lush and beautiful, but punitive to the extreme. No intermediate cut, so it's fairway or bust - you're going to be pitching out to the fairway instead of taking your approach. Lost one or two balls due to the thick rough, even though I hit them only a few yards off the fairway. Greens were fabulous - fast, challenging, and consistent. As for layout, I found it be a good mix of elevation changes, doglegs, and water hazards. The back 9 is better than the front in my opinion, helped by the fact that the conditions are not as damp as the heavily shaded front nine. The hole locations on the par 3's were very evil, most notably the uphill #9 was tucked in the back left of the green protected by numerous bunkers. #13 was tucked in the front right, maybe 5 or 6 paces in front of the bunker (think #12 at Pebble Beach on a Sunday, except right side instead of left). Cart girl came around 2 or 3 times total, more than adequate. Overall, a great experience...but beware, if your a high HCP like me, you're in for a high score for sure.

First time playing this course, I've avoided playing as I've got the impression that it wasn't worth the green fee. So, we decided to get a super twilight tee time at 4:30PM on the longest day of the year for $27 on golfnow. We ended up finishing 16 holes by 8:30 when it became too dark, but would have finished them all if not for a slow front 9. Groups in front of us were ridiculous on the front. 3 walking senior's in front of us and a father and young daughter in front of them, yikes. It did appear the marshal did speak with them after about 3 holes and tried to speed up, and it worked a little bit.

Now for the course. I found the previous posts about the patchy fairways to be very true. The rough was patchy also, with some crabgrass lies and even some sandy patches. Greens were very slow, partly due to the very humid overcast weather, but also due to the greens themselves too. They had some obvious repairs on a couple of greens. They are quite undulating, with many mounds, valleys, and a couple two tier greens. Sand was actually a bright spot, quite soft. Really, the main positive aspect of this course is the layout. I think some of the holes are very enjoyable, especially the Par 5 5th, Par 4 6th. Despite the horrible yips I have with my ball striking, I enjoyed myself, but couldn't see spending more than maybe $40 for a round here.

First time playing the Riverside portion of Green River. As with the Orange side, the course is a good value. We played as a twosome for $22 and a noonish teetime. Greens were punched at the end of April, and have healed very well, in fact, they were in great shape...not terribly fast, but very smooth and even. Fairways in good shape too now. Rough is hit and miss, with tree roots and some bare spots, but not a big deal. We finished in 4-4.5 hrs, and had time to enjoy ourselves.