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Suffice it to say this is a Government (LA County) owned and operated facility. Conditions were poor. Greens would have been smoother with acieration holes and sand. Kikuyu has taken over much of the course and it appeared they have tried to dig it out of the greens; the holes filled with sand were much smoother than those that were not filled. On the plus side some interesting holes. A number of drivable par 4’s and all par 5’s are 2 shot holes, makes it a short course with fun risk reward opportunities. Mature trees tighten up most driving lanes. Par 3’s are challenging with the winds and some pins positions are “dangerous”. Many greens do break away from the mountain even when you’d swear that it couldn’t.
12 Likes.
First time here. Played in morning after a significant rain; cart paths only, with a strong “south” wind. Most of early tee times had cancelled so played in 3.5 hours. Not typical conditions. Played the “combo” course so only about a 6000 yard track and front nine was very soggy; so seemed longer. Many holes were visually intimidating from tee, but had very wide landing areas. The greens were large and still very firm and did not hold. They were relatively slow, as they had not been mowed. Pins did not follow the numbered locations on yardage book (cart computer had correct positions). Most were in relatively flat areas without radical breaks within 10 feet, very fair. Some greens surfaces were not visible on approach, computer on cart was helpful, but not being able to leave cart path limited this. Wind was cold and pretty strong; out of the South which is a little different than prevailing. Across on the first six holes which were sheltered, and then 7,8,9 were downwind and played shorter than would be normal. Back nine was much more exposed to wind particularly 13-14, left to right, and 15-18 which were into it. Quite entertaining, made club selection critical (I mostly got it wrong). Very good conditions, except for some tees which were pretty beat up. This is a course everyone should try to play. Somewhat costly, but consistent with the area.
8 Likes.
9/2/15 Practice areas are very good except for the range, tee box very unlevel and shaggy; great to practice up down and side-hill lies. Played c: 9:00AM. Pace was great until we caught three groups of older men at #5 still finished in about 4 hours. The fairways had a few bare spots but mostly good (they had just sprayed “blue” fertilizer), so they are trying to save them. They are letting the rough die, so anything missing the fairways ran quite a distance (usually into trouble). Bunker “sand” was coarse and still wet from watering, but playable. Biggest complaint, as noted in a previous review, the rakes are for “décor” purpose only for this club (it seems this high tech equipment is too difficult for the players here, to comprehend). Every bunker I was in had un-raked footprints (the bunkers had been machine groomed that morning).
Greens were still wet and held very well, very good condition and speed was good, not fast but consistent. Staff was very welcoming and friendly; they actually seem to be encouraging business in the bar in the afternoons. Overall a very positive experience for the fee $33 senior.
7 Likes.
The course was much more playable then my last visit in Oct 2014. Fairways still had many clumpy, crusty areas, but mostly had good coverage. Rough was very lush. Greens were in good condition except for the “new” ones 11 and 14 which were rock hard and seemed stressed (they may lose these), and 17 in the back right (where the pin was) which reminded me of a clay tennis court with a little invasive grass.
The Marshalls were actually very good and kept things moving well; they made the group ahead of us let us and another play through. We’ll have to see if the course conditions can be maintained through the warmer months, I’ll play it again, but not at the “weekend non-resident” rate of $80; it’s not that good.
5 Likes.
First time here; a challenge, very interesting.
The fairways were in good condition, I don’t remember ever having a “flat” lie. The course is built along the sides of a number of arroyos and everything slopes towards the bottoms. Many holes required a lay-up with less than a driver off the tee, and accuracy was critical.
The greens were in fairly good condition, firm and did not hold on this day. Putting was “fun” as the overall slope was apparent but within 15 feet of the hole it wasn't always what I expected (it was foggy and flat light). Bunkers were excellent, I don’t suggest playing at them, but the two I experienced were as good as I've played. The non-hazard natural areas were abundant and while finding the balls that strayed into them was often possible; playing out usually wasn’t. Taking an unplayable drop wasn't always a good solution; I’d suggest playing them as a hazard, to speed up play. We did play in 4 hours which surprised me as we seemed to be looking for balls so often. Well worth playing, and the staff was very friendly and welcoming.
6 Likes.
This used to be my favorite course in the Tri-Valley area.
Water conservation efforts have taken a toll on this course. It appears that they have decreased the pressure to their watering system in the fairways, no overlap of sprinklers; with a round pattern there is a checkerboard of crusty dirt patches over the entire course. What grass there is is very firm and dry. This allows significant bounce and roll if you hit these areas (hard to miss), and distance control is quite a task. You’ll be surprised how long you’ve become. If you stayed on a dirt patch the lie was crusty, with clumps of dead grass or just hard pan. “Rough” areas not watered at all on many holes and with the slopes on some holes, balls would roll off the fairway and not stay in play.
Greens were very good, speeds were appropriate for their slope, still would punish you if above the pin on many holes.
3 Likes.
Great conditions overall. A wonderful facility with great views (we were there on a sunny day). A course you should play if in the area. This course will be all you can handle. Many of the approaches are up hill and the green surface is not visible, you cannot run the ball onto the greens in most cases. Greens are quite large with significant slopes, speeds were probably 11 and putting was brutal, do not go above the hole. Trying to stay below the pin has its downside also, well bunkered, and on 9 to a front left pin my ball spun back and then 35 yards back down the slope in front. Trees line most of the holes and fairways look tighter than they are. The trees have been cut back and trimmed up so finding balls that are in the trees is possible and you usually have some kind of shot. Did I say “this is all the course you can handle”? I’ll come back and get beat up again.
6 Likes.
Played Apr. 29 in 30+MPH winds out of North. It was entertaining (for a while) to hit 200 yard 9 irons, and 100 yard drives. Wind eventually beat us up and it wasn't a very good round. Tees fairways and greens were in excellent condition. The bunkers are the only negative I have for this course, as others have mentioned there is no sand or even dirt in them. They are hazards. I don't know how they can keep sand in them if the wind does blow this hard frequently, but they might soften the lips so you could chip from them. Outstanding customer service, particularly the starter.
3 Likes.
played 4/22/14 Conditions overall were very good. A short course, with many elevation changes. Fairway grass was slow, so little run-out, but quite full and the ball sat up nicely. (I'd expect that during summer and dryer conditions this might change.)
Many were very wide and funneled shots to the center. With elevation changes greens were often unseen and larger than expected. The greens were very moist and soft, putting was slow and breaks weren't as sever as expected (on longer putts you'll get more than one break). Pace was c: 5 hours and comfortable, no beverage cart and limited water stations.
A very acceptable option in the Riverside area.
3 Likes.
Played Feb. 25.
If you play a casual game and bump your ball, you may enjoy this course. Significant elevation changes and with wind, some fun shot options. Large landing areas and large greens. Many areas of fairways and rough were unmarked but should have been “GUR” (maybe they ran out of paint). Carts seemed to be allowed everywhere and the popular tracks were “hard pan”. There was thin dirt in the bunkers, the base was “bedrock”, chip out don’t attempt a blast. Some of the greens had been punched, not sanded, all were firm and unreceptive. Greens on downhill holes often ran front to back which accentuated this. Over the back was the usual result and a poor position. Green speed was quite slow and bumpy. No beverage cart, and no water stations, (not a course that might be easily walked). Bring a cooler if it’s warm; you only see the clubhouse on first and ninth tee. Residents used the course as a dog park, which probably accounted for the lack of “coots” around the water hazards, geese seemed to be the local issue. Pace of play was a little slow at about 5 hours. Staff was very friendly, food and beverages are reasonable. Rate is cheap, if you don’t play by the rules, and aren’t hung up on how you score, this is a fun place to play.
3 Likes.
Played 2/18. Biggest plus was the pace of play, about 4 hours. The marshals have a clue, and do their jobs.
Bring your "short game" as anything off the greens is a challenge.
Course is in over-all very good condition. The only negative this day was that they were "sanding" the greens, and had not informed us. The greens were firm and inconsistent with some quite bumpy, possibly from running equipment on them while we played.
Fairways were wonderful, lots of room, and run-out (I'm 25 yards longer here). Bunkers reported as a mess by my partner, I managed to stay out of them.
One of the better courses in the Inland Empire
4 Likes.
Played Feb. 12 Champions, behind an “international” group with a number of foursomes. Pace of play was good 4.5 hours. Tees were ok not great. Fairways very good except for unfilled divots; if you missed the divots you had a good lie. Fairway bunkers were mostly without sand, and greenside that had some sand often had not been raked by the proceeding players. Greens were fair to poor, very slow and significant unrepaired pitch marks; many of which seemed to be from days before (also sunflower seed shells). The overall condition was fair, I’d expected much better. With a significant number of their customers being self-centered and inconsiderate I wouldn’t expect conditions to improve much.
3 Likes.
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