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The course is in "interesting" shape. Truly not bad, just interesting. The fairways are very dry, presumably from not overseeding, and they are quite bare/brown. This is NOT a bad thing. They play fine and roll out very well.

However, as a severe contrast, the rough and greens are exceptionally lush. While this is okay in the rough, the greens are too spongy. Seed heads had formed in some of the outer areas of the greens/fringe. Try putting on Poa greens that have grown this long. It's an adventure.

I played Sunday, March 4, and Pace of Play was extremely slow. There was almost a full group's wait on each tee.

On this day, the 8th hole (Island Green par 3) was closed. To make up for this, they have temporarily set up 18 as a par 4 and then a par 3 (it is normally a par 5).

As it is their "signature hole", I am sure many will be disappointed that it's out of commission. You may want to ask and see when it will be back in play. I assume by the setup that it either has been out for a while, or will be out for a bit longer (scorecards with the "new" 17th and 18th listed)

Overall, Redhawk is a challenging and scenic course. The conditions make putting very difficult and sometimes frustrating. I'd love to see the greens as dried and browned as the fairways.
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It's been 2 years since my last trip to Yucaipa Valley. Previously I found the course to be in great shape with good greens and generally, a wonderful value.

While the price is still low and the customer service was excellent, I was extremely disappointed in the conditions. The fairways and rough I can understand - it's been a rough winter and courses are not doing too well. I was very surprised, though, with how poor the greens were. They were long, spongy, soft, and difficult to putt. For some reason, the greens on the front were worse than those on the back, but it was still a challenge to roll the ball.

At 28 bucks past 1pm on a weekend, it's still a heck of a deal...just maybe not the steal it once was. Pace of play was generally average, but bogging down bigtime on the par 3 13th.

As it's coming up on aeration season, I hope the greens recover well from the punching - they really need it. Good luck, YVGC!
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Well, it's got to be said.

Rustic Canyon has been and will continue to be what I consider my "home" course, but the conditions have deteriorated significantly over the past year. The fairways have gotten patchy in the moderate to high traffic areas, the rough is spotty, and there are large areas that used to be turf that are now simply desert hardpan (13 comes to mind)

For my dollar, I really hope they get their act together and figure out a solution to the conditioning problems. The course gets a lot of play, yes, but there's got to be something else going on here.

The greens are for the most part decent, and the collars were better than I thought they would be upon first seeing the fairways, but the fairways and rough are borderline unacceptable.

It's a shame, too - the conditions are a far cry from even 2 years ago when you could count on fairways that rolled like carpet and generally consistent and challenging rough.

Layout-wise, it's still the best public course in southern california...but the deterioration in conditioning is troubling.
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You will not find better conditioned fairways anywhere in the world. Greens are good but not unbelievable - rough is excellent. Too much sand (too fluffy) in many of the bunkers. Always a fun but brutal course to play - If you haven't done your scoring on the front nine, don't expect things to get better on the back. One of the better values in CA.
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Hunter Ranch is a great facility - wonderful conditions, challenging (but playable) layout, some very interesting holes, and beautiful scenery. The pitch and putt holes are a nice touch, and the golf course itself is a great mix of easy and difficult, tight and wide-open. You shouldn't get too beat up here, but it won't hand you your career-best score on a silver platter either. I'd love to go back....if it wasn't 3.5 hours from my house!
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I agree with dcirush that the greens were awful a few months ago - they were diseased and pretty sad looking. Playing today, though, I was pleasantly surprised that they seem to have things turned in the right direction - the greens have filled in and though they aren't as pristine as they once were, they are definitely on the right track. They still have some issues with their GPS programming with the switching of the nines, but overall, I was happy to see today that the greens are headed in the right direction.
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Pacific Grove is one of those rare municipal courses that people can rave on and on about and not feel like they are misplacing their praise. Despite the fact that it tips out under 6000 yards and to a quirkily-routed par of 70, holes 11-17 are worth twice the price of admission.

The front nine is a fairly boring and nondescript parkland layout that starts with a 6 hole stretch that goes par 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5. Interestingly (and not surprisingly once you have played the course) the front nine and back nine were designed by separate architects in separate decades. This is not to say the holes on the front nine are poor, but they by no means prepare you for the incredible back nine.

The 10th hole is a baby of a par 3, but it's just a means to get you to the 11th tee, where you first get to see what lies ahead.

Holes 12-17 criss cross the low-lying land almost down to the rocky shoreline, and the views here are priceless. If you're lucky enough to be playing on a clear day like I was, make sure you have plenty of room in your camera.

Tourists drive by, walkers stop for pictures, 3 and 4 point bucks lounge in the sand dunes between holes not the least bit worried about a stray teeball, and sea birds soar overhead, all on coastal land watched over carefully by the Point Pinos Lighthouse (which the back nine encircles)

One thing to note about Pacific Grove is that with Kikuyu grass everywhere, roll is minimal. Thus, it actually plays a bit longer than its stated yardage.

Furthermore, the greens need to be mentioned. Expecting a typical set of spongy municipal greens, I was shocked to see a playing partner of mine roll his first putt about 10 feet by. On this day, these greens were QUICK. They putted true and fast (even by some daily-fee standards, not just municipal standards)

Usually, if I can find a course that regularly has decent greens, I'm happy. If you can give me a course with absolutely priceless views and decent greens, all for the max green fee of $38.00 on a Saturday, I'd tell you that I wish I could move to Pacific Grove right now.

It's really that good, and holes 11-17 allow you to easily overlook the ordinary front nine and the letdown closing hole. You'll be too busy telling people about and showing pictures of 12-17 to remember the other stuff.
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I hate being the bearer of bad news, but Pala Mesa is dealing with some serious issues right now on the greens. They were lumpy, splotchy, and some areas looked to be ravaged by fungus. It's a shame, because Pala usually has great surfaces. The course overall is in average shape...not so bad that you won't enjoy yourself, but the greens certainly leave a lot to be desired. I hope they can get their act together for next season.
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Pro shop now says all 18 will be open July 1st.

New 7th green is raised a few feet from the old position, and the left fairway extends closer to the green than it used to.

Couldn't see much of the new fourth hole, fifth fairway, or 6th green, but things look great for an on time re-opening.

Course conditions are average for Rustic standards - the fairways are lush but a bit on the soft/long side. The greens are more bumpy than usual and have been lightly punched with the occasional small hole - still very playable and not anywhere close to full aeration.

Hopefully firm and fast will be back for July.
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Heading to this course Friday, February 25th, I had high expectations for the layout, but medium expectations for conditioning given the 7.5 rating on this site at the time as well as all of the recent rain. I must say, it is an absolute CRIME that this is anything below an 8...the fairways were like carpet, and the greens were mostly pristine - they could have been a bit quicker, but overall, it's tough to ask for much more out of a golf course.

The layout, as is little secret around here, is stunning - its playable, absolutely breathtaking, and very fun. Bring your camera and try to not slow down the brisk pace of play.

It's a great golf course in an unbelievable location and it is maintained beautifully. Believe me, I'll be back.
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A great layout in the middle of the city! Rancho is an old, tried and true golf course that is currently enjoying some of the best conditions I've seen for it and for Los Angeles municipal courses in general. The greens are generally smooth and of an acceptable speed and the fairways are as great as they can be, given the fact that the grass is kikuyu. The rough needs work, but hey, for under 30 bucks I can't be too picky here.

The back nine, I think, has much more character than the front, and I'd love to play this course more often, but getting out on a weekend on the wait list is a joke - bnose and I showed up and were on the list by 6:20 and didn't get out until 8...if you show up past 6:30, I wish the best of luck to you...

It's a great track - I hope they keep the conditions on an upward trend.
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Course has recovered nicely from aeration. There are also several changes that have been made and are still being made. A new black tee box on 5, the rebirth of 7, new back tee boxes on 11 and 14 as well. Most notably, perhaps, is the addition of the cross bunker bisecting the 10th fairway and the addition of a Pot Bunker about 300 yards off the black tees.

The fairways are gorgeous, and the greens are rolling nicely, though still not quite up to their typically fast speeds.

For the record, the short fairway on 7 opens this Saturday, May 1 officially. It MAY be open on Friday, but the word is one of the two days for sure.

Please fix your ball marks, especially on 8!
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