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Played a couple of times in the morning the last couple of days and the course is in really good shape. The marina layer was out both time and one time it was so thick we couldn't see more than 50 yds and it didn't clear up until about hole 15. The good thing was the moisture is staying on the course so while other areas are drying out for the summer that doesn't seem to be the case here...yet.

Greens are back to being firm but not as firm as before the punching. Balls still release a bit but just not as much as I remember from before. Maybe some of the moisture on the greens had something to do with that too. Just an average pace on the green speed. I thought you could be aggressive with putts. I played with a couple of guys from England who were making a trip throughout California and they commented that these were the slowest greens had played so far. But they had just played Poppy Hills which I think is probably why.

Fairways were in great shape with the exception of a couple of spots. They are putting in a new drainage on #4 and #13 so there were some workers out there on those holes. Also #17 had more damage/bare spots than the other holes. Not sure why but it always seems to be the case on that hole.

Tee boxes were good. I noticed the crew had filled in a lot of the divot damage on them. Even the par 3s while may have had some "fresh" divots there was plenty of room to tee it up. All of them were pretty level too.

Bunkers were pretty heavy/wet. They could use a raking but there was plenty of sand in them so they were good to hit from. This seemed to be the case whether it was a fairway or greenside bunker too.

With the City Am and the Junior Worlds coming up the course is looking good so its definitely worth a look as a resident.
Played in a company tournament on Thursday so the round was long. Finished in about 5 hours 15 minutes. Overall the course is in pretty good shape. Greens were pretty good, smooth but just a tad slow for my taste. These are relatively flat greens so I think you won't be surprised by the breaks here. Pretty soft too.

Fairways are good. Didn't notice an excessive amount of divot damage or bare/brown spots. Ball sat up nicely.

Rough is nothing to think about. Not penalizing at all unless you hit it in someone's yard.

Wasn't in any bunkers but they looked ok.

Service was great everyone was helpful and the were all hustling to get us out on time. I'm not sure what the rack rate is but you're a fan of this layout you'll probably like the conditioning of the course right now.
Had a 6:20 time this morning and by the 2nd hole we let the 3 some behind us go thru and the 2some behind them go on 3. After that there was no one behind me us and we finished at 4 1/2 hours. Real weird there weren't that many people out as there were 3somes open holes etc.

I'll echo the last couple of reviews. Overall the conditions are really great right now. Greens roll pretty smooth and quick too. Had a couple of putts and chips get away from me. Had some trouble icky pin positions.

Fairways are nice too but could use a little trim. I hit some drives longer than normal so I think they are rolling out well.

Rough provides enough of a difference to matter. It's certainly not the thickest I've seen but I did lose a ball which even in the area I was looking didn't seem that deep but with this grass balls can just settle in.

Greenside bunkers were a little disappointing. Caught a couple bad breaks and had some lies with not a lot of sand underneath. Fairway bunkers I had better luck with more sand and actually playable. My partners had better luck in the greenside bunkers so I think it was just luck.

Conditions are really nice right now so if you have been on the fence I think. Ow might be a good time to play it. Certainly worthy for the residents.
Was first off this morning by myself as the 2some that was scheduled to be first kindly let me jump ahead of them on the first tee. Only a brief hold up on #3 as the maintenance workers was finishing watering the green but other than that I really didn't have anyone holding me up and the 2some behind me was about a 1/2 hole behind me. Finished in 2 1/2 hours.

Greens are actually pretty good. A little slow first thing in the morning with the water on them but pretty smooth. I did see some unrepaired ball marks out there and being first off it was probably from yesterday. I'd imagine they'd get much faster was the green dries out.

Fairways have improved with the exception of hole 12. They are doing some resodding there again. It seems like they can't get the fairway down there right. More consistent grass throughout I thought. Previously you'd get some patchy areas but there are far less from what I saw. There were some wet spots in the fairways from the overnight watering.

Rough has some thickness to it. I actually had to search for my ball on one and it settled down just to the right of the fairway bunker. Its still hit or miss with some areas that are not bad to hit from.

Tee boxes are generally good. I recall the markers on hole 10 are not in a good spot as it was kind of uneven. Par 3s had some divot damage but looked to be filled in.

Overall a very enjoyable course and with these conditions certainly worth a look before they punch in a couple of weeks.
Played in the men's club today with the greens being punched a week and a half ago. Pace was at 5 hours.

Greens are not very good right now. Sanded and slow and it is this reason that I would say to wait a couple of weeks before playing.

Fairways are fine those were punched a while ago and I see no effects from that. I think they could use a little cut but they were fine.

Rough isn't too bad either. Not that much to penalize you but enough to make you consider it.

Sand was great, plenty of it too. Didn't see a bad one out there.

Tee boxes still show signs of punching but it's fine to tee off from.

Bottom line is wait.
Played with the Gurus today and it was like a country club out there. No one around us except for some annoying foursome behind us (j/k). Pro shop was great, checked in and got my range token and they said we could basically go anytime we had our foursome ready.

Fairways are really great to hit from. I don't recall seeing much in the way of divot damage. They were mowed nice and provided good rolls. I hit 11/13 of these fairways and it was a shame I could not capitalize more on this.

Don't even ask me about the greens. I give up, I cannot read these to save my life. I thought the greens didn't look fast but they roll more than you think. There were a few bumps but generally everything rolled pretty darn well. Most greens are not as firm when I played here last time but still releases a bit.

Wasn't in any bunker so the others will have a chime in on those.

Tee boxes were great. 15 and 17 were way back too, brutal. Maybe some of the par 3 had some divots but there was ample spots to tee up.

Absolutely love this course and I think it's a solid test of golf. I think it plays harder than the rating especially when that wind kicks up. If I lived closer this would be my home course and as long as Johnny lines up these outings here I will make the trip from SD.
Played in a tournament on Friday and I was told to expect a long round and it was 6 hours long to be exact. Everyone working here was super friendly and helpful.

Greens were probably the best part of the course however I thought they were on the slow side. A few too many ball marks if you ask me but I fault the golfers and it wasn't all from the tournament. Some look like they had been there. I don't think these greens are too tricky to read. Generally what you see is what you'll get.

Fairways are ok. There are quite a few dead spots out there but you'll get a decent lie.

Tee boxes were all over the place. A couple of times I thought why could they move this up or back a couple yards. Why am I hitting off of dirt with a few pieces of grass.

Rough is not penalizing. It never seemed to have any effect on my shot.

It's been several years since I have played here but I don't know if some of these bunkers are considered waste bunkers or not but some of these had no sand.

I have always liked the layout. I think this course can be quite challenging but I'd like to see some improvements before I come back.
Played yesterday with a 7:15 tee time and finished in 4 hours 15 mins. Could have been a little faster but the group 2 ahead of us fell a little behind. But as we were finishing there were 3 groups on 2 (yikes).

Like Rat said the greens are firm which can't be emphasized enough. All shots need to be played to the front and let them roll. I think I gave the greens too much respect because I came up short on quite a few but I still think they are pretty fast. Because they are so firm there are not too many ball marks and it was actually hard to find my ball marks.

Fairways had been punched. Some to be more recent than others. Never bothered me and never had a bad lie in them.

Rough is down a bit but it could still settle down and be a little more difficult. I was probably a couple yards away from my partner and he could barely get is out and mine was sitting up and I actually almost hit it over the green.

I was in 2 greenside bunkers and the sand was nice. I was able to splash both out with a good amount of sand.
Played in another men's club tournament today and generally conditions are similar to my review last week BUT you can tell they are preparing for the maintenance in a couple of days. Actually the fairways on holes 12-18 have already been punched.

Greens are still great. I thought I putted pretty well except I kept leaving myself with these tricky 2-3 footers. They got some speed on them so putts did roll good. Some ball marks there but they were very smooth to putt on.

Bunkers are great too. I was able hit some nice bunker shots without the fear of bottoming out.

Tees are generally good. I did notice some dryness and divot damage on the par 3s. Actually on the first tee box I almost broke my tee the ground was so hard.

I'd say wait until after the maintenance to come back so give it a few weeks if you are thinking of playing here.
Played in the Guru outing yesterday with David and Gary. Always a pleasure playing with these gentlemen. Check in was smooth and the guys in the shop were very helpful telling me where everything was.

Range was mats today. I saw another couple guys come down only to realize you need to pay at the shop which is kind of a hike. There are also 2 small chipping greens and a pretty big putting green.

Greens were a little too soft, wiggly and slow for my taste. I'd like them to firm up a bit and then I think they could hold a putts line a little better. You certainly need to play here a couple times to know where to hit them on the green. Lots of slopes out here and some places where I don't think they should even consider putting the pin.

Fairways are decent. Not lush green as you would expect. It was a little yellow out there but hitting off them were just fine. Your going to hit a variety of clubs but the wind and elevation make shots challenging.

Rough around the fairways were non existent and very patchy. Rough around the greens was a little thicker in spots but certainly playable.

I was in one fairway bunker and it was super firm. Greenside bunkers looked to be just fine with good sand.
Played in the men's club shotgun tournament today starting at 7. We finished at about 4:45. Saw the marshal quite a bit but really didn't see anyone slowing it down.

Those greens man are fast. With the amount of play this place gets I never expect these greens to be perfect so these are probably the best I can ask for. They do get bumpy because of the traffic too but I only noticed a couple of unrepaired ball marks out there.

I was surprised with the fairways. While they are generally pretty good there were quite a bit of unfilled divots. I also found some pretty firm lies. Enough that when I tired to hit my chip my club pretty much bounced off. Kind of surprising give it hasn't been that hot and the rain we have had. Also there has been some good marina layer coverage which I would have thought would keep some moisture on the course.

Rough is definitely playable. I don't really remember any bad lies and one guy in our group hit a 3 wood out it just fine.

Sand is good and believe me I know, I was in them 8 times. It's not white and fluffy like you see on tv but I like it. It's heavier to me but there is good coverage and depth.

Tee boxes are really nice. I didn't notice any with significant damage including the par 3s.

One disappointment was there were no balls in the machine this morning and by the time they got there I had to go. My understanding is this is not run by the city but rather independently owned and operated. I didn't knock down any ratings for this.
Played the the Gurus yesterday and had a great time. Not really too much to add to my review from last week. Staff is outstanding as always. Everyone was very helpful, I've never had a bad experience here.

Greens were probably a little softer than last week and a little slower but still ran pretty good. Being an afternoon tee time there were probably a few more ball marks than last week but overall greens were still pretty smooth.

Fairways are still great to hit from. Still quite a bit of roll out there. I just wish I could have hit a few more fairways. Because of some of the contours of the fairways balls may collect in certain areas more which result in more divots in these collection areas. The good news is that many were filled in.

Was in 2 bunkers. One fairway and one green. Both were pretty consistent and really nice to hit from. I feel like there was really a splash when hitting out of them.

It's a shame the course is shutting down because conditions are great right now. I can't wait until it opens back up to get out there. Highly recommended.
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