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Haven't played or posted much of late. So I looked over recent reviews for Eagle and thought, hmmm - these don't seem to be consistent impressions of the same track. For context here, I love this track but it is well documented on GK by the golf director himself that they are seeking new solutions to maintenance problems here. And with drought and all, things had been pretty dry up until recently.

Driving up, course still looked pretty dry but a ted greener than of late - this panoramic view of the course conditions that you get from the club house was pretty much confirmed upon closer inspection. Turf conditioning is improved overall, with more pad under the ball and the fairways are pretty much clear of any in-growth. Bermuda all the way. That said, it's 50/50 lush versus drier so it's still on the firm side and the ball travels a long way on the ground. A few fairways were recently slit-cut in areas and that was the first sign I got that maintenance is ongoing.

Rough is pretty much non-existent everywhere except around the greens, as it has been for living memory. So there are some iffy lies to be had and no two ways about it, the reason to avoid the rough is not because it's long and penal, but because it's funky thin and penal. Hitting off dirt is not unexpected here. Tees are fine and the sand replacements on the front 9 mentioned on GK by Scott Flowers are visible and much welcomed. Most fairway traps though remain clay and hard-packed.

Either they are getting prepped for green maintenance or they are punting on doing a full aeration for now, but at least 2/3 of the greens showed a light sanding (probably applied in the last 6-10 days) and about 7 or 8 had been slit-cut (16 appeared to have been done very recently, maybe in the last few days). There were few un-repaired ball marks and they were on the firm and fast side, but I thought they were pretty bobbly with the remnant sand and slits.
Also, pins were near edges or tucked on slopes suggesting they were keeping play away from the majority of surfaces in prep for more maintenance.

Clearly they are working towards improvements. but the course remains on the dry and firm side with conditions less than ideal for the most part. I would rate about 6 overall.
13 Likes.
Sorry - haven't played much golf, ergo no reviews of late.

Played CC@R last Sunday and it's a mixed bag for the most part. First, the good(ish): greens are generally smooth (just a few bobbles) but quite grainy (if that's good or bad you decide). So tough reading putts as some don't break as much as they appear while others go bonkers. Also had a big influence on speed. Note: 3 or 4 greens had areas under repair although all of these were on the margins of the putting surfaces.

Tees - good, but you don't spend much time here.

On the other hand, fairways were fairly green and had a decent pad under the ball. But there was severe and extensive divot damage in all the landing areas (and on a course as hilly as this, the balls tend to collect in the same pockets no matter what - I found myself in quite a few old divots). Rough - none to speak of, except some pockets around the green. Sand appeared fluffy enough, but the one trap I was in was thin and relatively hard--packed underneath, with my wedge bouncing off the surface.

I'd say overall conditions were winter-ish and 50/50 throughout.
13 Likes.
I played Sunday and will have to go against previous reviews. I thought conditions were fairly dismal. Yes, the bermuda is going dormant, but that is not the issue with the turf here. The soil remains largely compacted and hard throughout the fairways and rough leading to rock-hard bounces, thin tight lies and bare spots where you are hitting off dirt at times (especially in the 'rough').

Add to this the greens have been slit-cut fairly recently - and although they were lightning fast, they were bobbly because of the slits. From either a visual or physical standpoint, the course is not in a condition that justifies the green fees IMO at the present time.
10 Likes.
Mainly I agree with the last review. Only difference I would note was that the greens seemed soft and slow to me (around 8.5) although they rolled smooth.

Tee boxes were hard as nails here and there and rough (as noted in prior review) was extremely spotty, from non-existent to downright US open style around some of the greens. Un-playable in one or two situations.

2 observations about the course in general. It is still a tale of two cities: 1 through 11 are all tight, mountain/target golf, while 12-17 are a partly tricked-up but mainly flat parkland course. Never sure that these two parts merge as one and play like a complete course.

Second: course was empty at prime time on a Sunday. Not sure why as it's an equal play to Rustic or other area courses. (although their rack rate is higher.) But most groups were only twosomes and on the back nine I only saw 2 other groups. Eerie (but most welcome)
8 Likes.
Lush pretty much describes it. To be nit-picky, there were some burnt areas here-and-there on the fairways - they mainly looked like mower burn on the crowns on the fairways - but every lie I had was as cushioned and plush as could be. Consequently (coincidentally?) a good ball-striking day throughout.

Greens were typically slow which is the norm here (around 9, generously, on the stimp) but they rolled well. 3 greens had minor fungus patches usually on the edges.

While most people give the sand at OQ a bad rap, I was in both fairway and greenside bunkers and got up and down both times. Yes - it's firm and on the thin/compacted side - but I prefer this to the 'powdered-sugar' type of sand as you can really zip through the ball here and get it to come out high and soft.

No gripes - good quality and fun golf throughout.
12 Likes.
While the fairways and rough are the usual verdant green (with some occasional burnt areas - something like 10% overall), the greens were sub-par. They looked a bit raggedy and putted how they looked. Lots of poorly healed pitch marks too, and a fair number of un-repaired recent ones. Overall, I thought they needed rejuvenating with some aeration.

I was in both fairway and greenside traps and both were crusty, thin and compacted.

POP was great at 4.15 hours on Sunday morning prime-time, but the overall conditions were below the usual high standard you have come to expect here. I would rate it about 6 - 6.5 overall.
14 Likes.
First time with a club in my hands in 10 weeks. Let that not affect the review.

Was expecting drier conditions overall, but was presently surprised at how green some parts of Eagle were. That said, the following conditions should be noted:

Greens: best part of the course by far. Only issues were 1. there was a fair amount of Poa in many of them, making for some bobbly putts. 2. They were spongier than normal too. That said, they looked very healthy and even had some grainy streaks here and there that would fool you with slower-than-it-looks down hillers. 7.5/10

Fairways: probably anywhere from 70/30 green versus burnt on the front nine to 60/40 on the back. Overall, they are making great strides in conditioning the fairway turf which had become hard and compacted over the years. Now, in spots, there are some nice, cushioned lies that are a pleasure to hit from and reward good swings with crisp contact. Evidence of positive maintenance is visible in many old aeration slits (long since healed over). 6.5/10

Rough: It's juicy here and there - mainly around the greens. Otherwise, there are plenty of burnt out, thatchy lies and downright dirt patches throughout. Could get you any kind of lie from tangly to completely bare. Weakest part of the course 3.5/10

Tees: played off 12 black tees so that probably influenced my perception. The heavier use of the blues showed, and they were at times a bit lumpy with some weed encroachment (#14 esp) 5.5/10

Sand was typical for here - I saw a few of my playing partners wedges skeet off the hard pan just below the surface in some of the green side traps. 5/10

While the course has a way to go, it is definitely trending in the right direction - especially so given the drought. Appears there is a new sheriff in town as there are signs of all sorts of small maintenance/improvement projects. (such as the small set of hitting mats on the range.)

Keep it up Eagle!
16 Likes.
Not their fault as the drought leaves all high-and-dry, but man, this is the driest and burnt out I've ever seen Eagle, and I've been playing it regularly for years.

Back nine was more stressed out than the front, with most fairways & rough about 90 percent straw-colored. You do get the ball to sit up from time-to-time, but it's a grab-bag. They have aerated some fairways recently with slit cuts, but they are just so hard and burnt.

Add to that the greens which are not yet all the way back from aeration (they still show sand-filled plugs on most holes, with a slight but discernable layer of sand) and they putt quite bumpy though they did speed up as the day went on. Tees are generally fine and they have put newer, fine sand in all the greenside traps. Fairway traps are a mixed bag.

I hope they get some more moisture here though it's hard to see how the fairways improve as we are almost into May and so it's goodbye so-called rainy season.
12 Likes.
First time playing here today - used the coupon like everyone else and got in 30 holes before the rain.

Course design features strategic fairway bunkering on most every par 4 and 5 and a narrowing (or complete ending) to the fairways at the landing zones too. So either layup and have a longer second or try to fly the hazard for a shorter approach. There are interesting sight lines off the tee as frequently you can't see where to land it, or, that landing area turns out to be quite different in scale than what you saw from back on the tee. Also, a ton of dog-lefts, so hopefully you can bring your draw. (only true dog leg to the right is #11). So a lot of risk reward straight off the tee that can impact your second shot greatly.

And, there was a penchant for putting a large oak right in the middle of the fairway where you want to aim the ball. My strategy - aim right for it and fly it over (I guess that is why they are there - to get you to play around them. But, they were rarely actually in play). The back nine is more interesting and varied than the front IMO (which plays over more exposed terrain with a heath-land like feel). The stretch from 12 thru 16 is the best on the course as it gets tighter and more strategic (and plays through a really gnarly, primordial oak grove which was cool). 15 is a really great par 5 with one of the most unique layouts I have seen - it's the best hole me thinks. That said, 12 (the other par 5 on the back) seemed well nigh impossible as every shot (tee ball, layup and approach) you had no clear line to where you needed to be - usually because of aforementioned oaks plopped down right in the middle of the hole. Toughest hole on the course, perhaps. (and maybe a tad unfair???).

The course comes advertised as being a beast, and while it is no push over, I thought it was of moderate difficulty (kind of reminded me of Robinson Ranch in places). Pete Dye designs remain in my mind as the most infernal (yes - I'm talking about you, Stadium course). Wind is a huge part of the defense here and today at least, it seemed like I was often faced with draw pins playing into a cut wind. So not easy to judge especially if you have to start the ball flying in the direction of the garbage to get it to ride the breeze and stick it close.

Conditions: Average to above average throughout. The weakest part by far were the tee-boxes which were mainly patchy in coverage (esp. par threes) and quite crowned on a few. Still, you don't spend much time here so easy to get around these issues. 5.5/10. Fairways had a few different growths but were lush for the most part (7/10). Ditto rough, although it got patchy and variable around some greens, ranging from lush to tight-cut to non-existent dirt and sand lies. 6.5/10. These were usually in spots away from the main watering areas so I'll put it down to the drought. Sand was fine but usually wet and thus a bit compacted. Also, it's a more or less cosmetic issue, but they need to define the bunkers better as they are all overgrown around the edges and/or the sand is spilling out in places. Not only would it frame things better, but it would help with the lies you might get (as I did) towards the edges, which were lumpy and uneven. 8/10. Greens were basically blemish-free with little to no ballmarks and complete, lush coverage. However, they were pretty slow (would estimate 8.5 stimp generously) and had a softer, nappy feel so the occasional putt would wobble off line. (8.5/10). Kudos to whoever cut the holes as they were the crispest-edged cups ever. They looked like the pockets on a billiard table.

I prefer the layout of Monarch Dunes further up the coast which I think is more memorable, but this was certainly worth the play. And small point - they don't really have cart paths - except around the tees in places. Otherwise, you are driving on rutted sandy tracks, so if babies are in your future plans you may want to drive slowly. I like the lack of concrete paths ribboning their way around from an aesthetic standpoint, but it certainly makes it a little harder to find your way around as a newbie (I am thinking of the commute through the oaks from 14 green to 15 tee.

Solid stuff all around.
12 Likes.
The conditions were average throughout, but the rough is unplayable. It was routinely 6 inches and very very healthy. And times I would guess it was 9 inches plus. When I stood in it I couldn't see the tops of my sox. This was beyond US open stuff. I lost 8 balls in the rough simply 'cos I couldn't find them unless I got lucky and stood on them. Even then, there was virtually no way to advance the ball. Not sure if they had some sort of tourney going on, but they need to make this workable for average golfers and get the mowers out there. Or buy some cows and let them feast.

Not fun.
12 Likes.
Winter-thin in many areas. Some fairways are about 60/40 dry and dormant versus green and fuller. Most are about 20/80 or 30/70. Rough ditto. Tees I would estimate to be about the same. Sand was full to occasionally thin. Greens were plenty bobbly but also quite fast and firm. Paid 43 walking on a Saturday PM and thought that was just fine.

Course is mainly oriented around deep greens placed at steep angles to the fairway/tee sight-line. The fairways then back this protection up with bunkers that take away the favorable angles into these slanted greens. Final twist is lots of false edges and tight-cut grass swales around these greens. Bottom line - it's position golf and one you have to think back from the pin to the tee on many holes.
13 Likes.
Course is not in good condition. Some things can't be helped due to the drought, but the long term effects of a dry climate regime are definitely taking their toll.

You know it can't be good when some tells you the tees were the best part of the course, but that's about the size of it (admittedly most were re-seeded recently). Rough is completely dormant/fairways semi to mostly dormant. Lots of bare, dry, hard pan lies in both. Don't nip it? Then you will be skelping the ball through the green on your approach.

Greens have fluffier rough surrounding them for the most part, but the greens themselves had a ton of old and new ballmarks and a good deal of bobbles as a result. They were fast, but a few greens on the back (13-16) had not healed well from aeration and it showed.

Sand was thin-ish to moderate in coverage around the greens - hard-pan everywhere else.

I wouldn't play for anything other than a good discount and while the lack of rain is no-ones fault, the compacted nature of most of the fairways and the lack of conditioning in these areas make it hard to play a good round through the green. Rain please.
16 Likes.
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