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Against my better judgment, I made another tee time at Johnson Ranch for Friday 9/26. It was advertised on GN for $11 and included all the balls you c... » More
Against my better judgment, I made another tee time at Johnson Ranch for Friday 9/26. It was advertised on GN for $11 and included all the balls you could hit. As I purchased new irons, I felt this would be great opportunity to tune in my new clubs and play 18 for essentially the price of a large bucket of balls at my local range.
When I arrived, I was told upon check in that the range was closed already (overseeding was scheduled for the following Monday). I knew about the overseeding, so I wasn't expecting pristine conditions, but the whole point of purchasing the deal was the driving range. I was told by the starter to practice putting before I went out, as he pointed to the putting green behind the range--the one that was being absolutely flooded by multiple Rainjet sprinklers at that moment. I sat in the cart until he loaded another bag into it, and then he and ANOTHER twosome were sent off to the 10th tee to start. Understand, there were, at best, 15-20 people on the course, yet we were forced to play a foursome. Multiple singles who teed off after us were allowed to play through by us, so the only reason I can think that we were forced to play as a foursome was that we were all GN discounted rate and they were locals paying whatever rack rate was current that day. With absolutely no waiting on any hole, because we were forced to play with two older gentlemen tracking down a lost ball on every hole, the round took 4+ hours to complete. Complete and utter BS. Please, if I ever golf here again, someone kick me in the cooter.
Played Tuesday 9/23. FotS recently popped up on the GolfNow course availability, and I was interested in checking out this executive course located wi... » More
Played Tuesday 9/23. FotS recently popped up on the GolfNow course availability, and I was interested in checking out this executive course located within the FotS senior community. It was nice to see a new executive course become available after the recent closings of Rio Salado and The Lakes at Ahwatukee.
With courses inside private developments, the concern is that you'll be treated like an outsider or an interloper. Not here. The head pro, Mark, who was manning the pro shop, had a cart parked out front for me (it was a slow day), and took the time to welcome me, give me directions on how to get around, and seemed to be genuinely happy I was there. A very nice start. A small bucket of 25 balls ("enough to get you warmed up!") cost only $2 (!!!). The driving range was right behind the pro shop, and there was a practice putting green and practice bunker/chipping area as well. The driving range had divot mix at every other station, an ongoing theme at this course. They take care here.
Although I was unaware of it until recently, the course has clearly been around for awhile. I don't say that to mean it was worn out, but had many old growth pine, eucalyptus and other trees all along the fairways, Trees were also strategically placed by almost every tee box and parking areas by the greens, which is what all smart courses here in the desert do or should do.
All tee boxes were in very good-to-great shape. When you play an executive course, it's usually because you want an inexpensive way to practice specific shots out of your bag, especially with the mid-to-short irons and wedges. FotS does not disappoint. There are two Par 5s, four Par 4s and 12 Par 3s. Two tee boxes choices White (4212 yards/60.1/94) and Red (3626 yards/59.7/94). It's flat, with almost no mounding except around the greens. It's also very, very grassy. Appears to be mostly Bermuda, with some Kikuyu thrown in for good measure, and I defy anyone to find a bare spot anywhere on any fairway. Fairways are generous, and the rough in some places was as high as 6 inches (but usually in the 3-4" range) and very penal. The only time I felt crowded from homes was on the 3rd tee box, where a drive more than a couple yards off the left side of the fairway was in someone's backyard. Otherwise, generous fairways, large areas of rough bracketed by homes with larger than usual backyards. Each tee box also had its own supply of divot mix. They're serious about keeping this course in the best possible condition.
Bunkers were in very good shape, well cared for and appeared to have more than adequate sand (I was never in one so I cannot review directly). Greens were a bit soft and spongy, and ran slow-to-medium, but, oddly, was difficult to leave a pitch mark in them. Very smooth. Miss a green and you could be in 5" rough, so target wisely. Water is only an issue on the 18th hole, and then only if you mi s-hit badly. Finally, this course is, as I mentioned, inside a senior community. The cart paths are smooth, not big bumps and potholes to throw your back out, like so many other courses do.
To sum up, this is far and away the best executive course I've played in the Phoenix area, from the facilities available, to the attitude of the staff, to the course itself. As an inexpensive alternative in the east valley, you can do far, far worse than Fountain of the Sun Country Club.
Teed off today (9/21/14) for probably my final time here this year before the rates go back up in October. For the end of summer season, course is sti... » More
Teed off today (9/21/14) for probably my final time here this year before the rates go back up in October. For the end of summer season, course is still in remarkable shape. A few tee boxes had some wear or were hardening up, but nothing too significant. A number of trees lost branches from the latest big storms, will probably be cleaned up when the course goes dark for re-seeding starting 10/20.
Fairways still green, rough has really been allowed to thicken and can be quite challenging on some holes. Most bunkers in good (not great shape), one that I was in was rather thin. but overall they were playable. Greens very firm and fairly fast; I hit some very high shots into them and only left a small dent for a ball mark, but they held every shot I hit and rolled true. Service was excellent, as usual. PoP was 3.5 hours, mostly due to a twosome who would not allow anyone to play through from Hole #7 on. A little better marshaling would be appreciated.
9/20/14 quick update: Played here a couple weeks ago, after the big monsoon hit but before the follow up storm last week. For those who play here, the... » More
9/20/14 quick update: Played here a couple weeks ago, after the big monsoon hit but before the follow up storm last week. For those who play here, they know the driving range is a giant gravel pit, which serves as a runoff basin for storm drainage. The last storm we had was called a "100 year storm" and, according to the pro shop guy, CW lost 75% of their balls to the massive amount of rainwater left in the collection basin. And that was BEFORE the next storm. Don't expect to be able to warm up until at least after the overseed is complete, if then. Otherwise, thanks to the rain, fairways are about as lush as I have ever seen them at any time, and certainly for the end of summer. Storm damage around the 8th hole Par 5 will need to be fixed, or they will lose a chunk of their course soon.
Played a quick round Friday 9/20/14. Course is being prepped for overseeding starting Monday 9/22. Fairways in the process of getting cut very short ... » More
Played a quick round Friday 9/20/14. Course is being prepped for overseeding starting Monday 9/22. Fairways in the process of getting cut very short and punched. Rough was left alone, greens still in decent shape. Key to playing this course is not to try and knock the balls to the hole, but to club down 1 iron and run the ball to the hole. With no bunkers, that's the smart play that keeps your ball snuggled near the hole, especially on the front hole locations. Last time I was here a regular did that all day long, and I copied it this round. Works like a champ. Come back in a few weeks after overseed is complete and work on your short game.
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