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Living in Gilbert, I don't often drive out to the west side to play golf, but when I saw a $14 deal on GolfNow, I packed up my clubs and drove the 66 ... » More
Living in Gilbert, I don't often drive out to the west side to play golf, but when I saw a $14 deal on GolfNow, I packed up my clubs and drove the 66 miles to Verrado. So glad I did.
As you would expect from a high end club, customer service was excellent, with someone taking my clubs and setting up my cart to the pro shop staff checking me in. Facilities include a huge grass driving range with all you hit balls available, a large chipping area and green, practice bunker and separate putting greens. All were in great shape. Carts are electric, and come stocked with ice chest, ball/club washer, GPS and even a couple of towels, along with 10 plastic complimentary tees.
Verrado is designed by Tom Lehman & John Fought, and has six different tee box options/combos to choose from, ranging from the Black tips (7258 yards) to Silver (6833) to White (6228). There are two other shorter tee boxes for seniors/ladies. They also have a Black/Silver combo (7036) and a Silver/White combo (6561), so everyone should be able to find a distance with which they are comfortable. I played from the Silvers (probably biting off more than I chew, but I wanted to truly experience the course).
As for the course itself, what a treat. Every hole is challenging, whether it be elevation changes, narrowed fairways leading into crevices and/or desert, fairways bunkers placed right in your landing area, or greens with false fronts. Playing from Silver meant I had six Par 4s measuring over 400 yards, including the 4th which measured at 454 yards, the 8th at 457 yards, the 16th at 449 yards and the finishing 18th measuring out at 457 yards. My drives are typically in the 225-230 yard range, so I definitely had my hands full, but, except for one hole, I never felt I had no chance at a par.
One of the trickiest hole might be one of the shortest: The Par 4 291 yard 13th. Uphill. A lot. And, if you're a big hitter who thinks he can reach it, the greens complex for this hole is the nastiest on the course. Steep false front which will send mis-hit chips back down to your feet a la Retief Goosen at the US Open a few years ago. The rest of the green has the most extreme breaks of any other green on this course, so play it carefully. This is followed by a Par 3 that drops as steeply as the previous hole rises...fun! There's also the 8th hole, with a huge stone outcropping past the desert carry area that will play with your head.
As for course conditions, tee boxes were in good shape, fairways were outstanding and the rough could be thick and penal at times. I was in four bunkers (three fairway) and always had a fair chance to escape. Greens had been punched about 3 weeks prior, many were rolling true but there were still quite a few bumps in our putts. Another week or so and they should be perfect.
This is definitely a course you want to play if you can make out to the southwest corner of Phoenix. I will absolutely return at some point in the future.
Here's a pro tip for this course you would be wise to remember: Ladies' Club is held on Mondays here and the Mens' Club is on Tuesdays. If you want to... » More
Here's a pro tip for this course you would be wise to remember: Ladies' Club is held on Mondays here and the Mens' Club is on Tuesdays. If you want to play on either of those days, do yourself a favor and schedule an afternoon tee time to avoid the human glaciers playing out here.
Now that that is out of the way, let's talk about the course. Scottsdale Silverado is not overly long (6313 from the tips, 5734 from the Whites), but it is a very enjoyable layout. The back nine is a bit more spread out and scenic (and ends with its signature Par 3 18th hole over water), but the front nine has its challenges as well, particularly the #6 and #8 holes, which are longish Par 3s with major trouble to the right on each of the holes.
The course was as green as I've ever seen it, and that's saying something. Probably has a lot to do with the unseasonable rain we've experienced this month. Regardless, there are few bare patches to be found anywhere on the course. Tee boxes in good shape, though some are getting worn and a couple beginning to crown slightly, though nothing that impacted my swings or its results. Major plaudits to the bunkers: I was in 5 today, and each one had fluffy sand allowing me to concentrate on my swing and not worrying about my blade bouncing off the surface and sending a ball screaming across the green. Allowed me to get up and down 3 times (including a rare spinner at 18 that checked up 2 feet from the hole).
Probably the weakest part of the course were the greens. While they were in good shape and held shots into them, the members here clearly do not fix their ball marks, and many putts by both me and my playing partners had more bounce than should be expected.
Finally, a quick shout out for the customer service today. As the Mens Club was in full force when I arrived, I had to park in an overflow parking lot a long way away from the tee shop. One of the starter crew saw me and sped over in a cart so that I did not have to carry my clubs all the way back to clubhouse. Cart girl came by 4 times today (twice each side) and the clubhouse guy was also helpful. A very fun afternoon of golf.
Played Thursday 5/28, 11:30am tee time, but went off at 11am.
Summer hits, and the course becomes near deserted as the day wears on. Teamed up... » More
Played Thursday 5/28, 11:30am tee time, but went off at 11am.
Summer hits, and the course becomes near deserted as the day wears on. Teamed up with another single, just another twosome on the course ahead of us, who let us through on #4 and we did not see another group until we made it to #14.
Course is in great shape. Just a long green carpet of fairways awaits you on nearly every hole. Rough can be patchy, especially if you mis-hit an iron on a Par 3, but great lies all day long in the fairway. Tee boxes in good shape, though some wear on the #12 island green tee box. Greens were holding shots into them all day, soft enough to leave ball marks that needed repairing but still quite fast. My playing partner, who clearly played here a lot, only needed 23 putts to complete his round, which attests to the general smoothness and readability of the greens.
Bunkers were the only questionable part of the course. While some had clearly been restored and had plenty of white sand in them, many others were very hard packed and rocky, and it was like hitting off of hard pan. Hopefully, Lone Tree will finish restoring all the bunkers in the near future.
No cart girls present during the week, so bring your own drinks. Driving range, putting green and chipping green all available for warm-up. Price on GolfNow was only $15; you cannot beat the quality of the course for that rate. PoP clocked in at under 3 hours.
I usually enjoy playing The Duke. Customer service is always a priority here, and the huge driving range, putting and chipping practice areas and the... » More
I usually enjoy playing The Duke. Customer service is always a priority here, and the huge driving range, putting and chipping practice areas and the bunker practice area are the best in the SE Valley.
I felt the course was already drying out, and it's never been mistaken for lush. Wide fairways on many holes give you ample opportunity to miss and still be in play, though fairway bunkers do frequently come into play. Not much in the way of rough, and balls are quite capable of ending up in the multitude of desert areas surrounding most holes.
Greens were very hard and very fast, but perhaps more disconcertingly, starting to show the same issues around their edges that plagued The Raven for a couple years. One hopes the greenskeepers get it under control sooner rather than later. Speaking of which, the grounds crew was really out in force, and it seemed as though we were surrounded by a tractor, mower, sprayer and/or tiller on virtually every hole. Critical tip: remember to bring plenty of bug spray along with your SPF40, as the mosquitoes are out in force and very hungry.
Overall, a good, not great experience today.
Played Memorial Day, morning tee time.
The Links is a short course (5,787 from the tips, 5,172 from the Whites, where most here play) with ... » More
Played Memorial Day, morning tee time.
The Links is a short course (5,787 from the tips, 5,172 from the Whites, where most here play) with no bunkers, water in play on about half the holes and generally tight fairways. The course is lined with hundreds of mature trees and many other short bushes which can trap your ball if you go offline. Greens were simply outstanding, rolling fast and true all day and were probably the course's best feature. Playing from the Blues (Back tees), there are at least 2-3 holes on the front nine where trees are in a direct path between the tee box and the green. Fairways were green and in good shape, though a few overwatered patches appeared sporadically. I felt the front nine was definitely more challenging than the back, as it featured several holes with blind first or second shots.
As for the facilties and service, the clubhouse guy was friendly and got me out early, and the cart lady came by multiple times on both the front and back nines. There is no driving range here; it was removed several years ago for reasons unknown. A nice little clubhouse also features inexpensive breakfast and lunch items. Overall, the Links is a pleasant if not overly challenging course.
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