1. gary00 Posted: 05/05/16 1:48p Member Since: Mar 10, 2014 From: san clemente
5/2 off the blues using Underpar $74 2some--easy check in and off early after quick warm up in the nets. No driving range but free balls for warm up enough to get loose--chipping area and putting gre... Continue »
5/2 off the blues using Underpar $74 2some--easy check in and off early after quick warm up in the nets. No driving range but free balls for warm up enough to get loose--chipping area and putting green available as well. Course is showing the benefit of the renovations. Tee boxes are all really level with new sod. Bunkers well filled and maintained. Fairways are mostly wide and welcoming with a couple of exceptions and still firm but good base and good lies. Very little rough except for some areas around the greens.
Greens are firm, fast, large and undulating with NO straight putts outside of 3 feet at least from where I was. Being above the hole for chips or putts made an up and down only a dream.
POP 3-20 with a little waiting on the back. Fun layout good outing overall.
Wow, where to start this one? If a high-end course that calls itself a "Country Club" reminds you a lot of California Golf & Art CC, that's not a good sign. That's overly harsh, but that thought defin... Continue »
Wow, where to start this one? If a high-end course that calls itself a "Country Club" reminds you a lot of California Golf & Art CC, that's not a good sign. That's overly harsh, but that thought definitely entered my head while evaluating the turf reduction efforts today at Carmel Mountain Ranch. First things first, though.
I booked a Sunday morning 7:30 time for only $42 through GolfNow, which was a very good price for this course. For some reason all of their Sunday times were 50% off. At first I thought it was a mistake because a Hot Deal in the 11:00 am hour was $59, but I kept monitoring it and eventually the Hot Deal price was adjusted as well, so I felt comfortable booking it without issue. I showed up, checked in and paid with no problem. But then the starter informed me that GolfNow actually has no access to their tee sheet, and that he had a group of 12 people scheduled to begin teeing off at 7:30. To his credit, he got me slotted in with a twosome right ahead of the 7:30 bunch, so that worked out well. I had noticed – and the starter reiterated – that the GolfNow reservation receipt came with a stipulation that the tee time was just a suggestion and they had the right to move you 10-20 minutes to accommodate their schedule. I assume this is just a CMR issue and not global to GolfNow starting now, but anyway that was sort of weird.
This was my first time playing here in many years (~15) and I was looking forward to seeing how the turf reduction impacted the course. I was also hoping for nice lush conditions, but that didn't materialize. The first thing I noticed was that they've flipped the nines at some point since I last played here. The second thing I noticed was that the fairways were not very appealing looking and obviously far from lush. Definitely not up to the standard of an $84 rack rate course, considering how cooperative the weather has been of late. I would say the fairways are "Winter thin" and playable, but far from lush. Lies were tight most of the day. Some parts of the course played fast and firm and others were sopping wet, so inconsistency was also an issue. The rough was maybe slightly better condition than the fairways, cut quite short. Tee boxes were thin but acceptable. I wasn't in a bunker but they looked good. Greens were by far the highlight of the course, quite smooth and medium-fast to fast. They were somewhat firm but accepted full shots well, at least early in the morning.
Layout-wise, I feel like I used to really enjoy this course but I didn't care for it much today. I understand the need to cut back on water and maintenance, but it felt to me like they went too far with the turf reduction. If the fairways were really lush, I might change my tune, but when they are thin and fast, it becomes too penal for an already tight course. Furthermore, the gravel areas beside the fairways are basically hardpan, so the ball just rolls and rolls. The overall appearance suffers greatly from the turf reduction as well. The bark-like stuff is more attractive than the gravel areas, but it's already looking somewhat neglected and matted down. The comparison to California Golf & Art came because I always remembered that course for two things: $10 green fees and nothing but bare dirt on the outskirts of each hole. The turf reduction at CMR actually gives it much that same appearance in spots, but unfortunately not with $10 green fees. On another note, I didn't recall the houses, streets and nearby shopping centers encroaching on this course as much as they do, but that might just be a faulty memory on my part. On at least three different holes, residents of adjacent homes were being extremely loud and disruptive.
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