East Valley Golf Club (Legends) - $$
36211 Champions Drive • Beaumont, CA 92320 • (877) 742-2500
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eweneedme2 - Fontana 
I finally decided to play the Legends course after hearing about the facility last year from a friend. A lot of the other courses in the IE are currently doing their overseeding and have a lot of CPO rules in place right now.

The teeboxes and fairways were in fairly good condition. There were a few spots on the fairways on a few holes where it was obvious that the water didn't drain well and some fool decided to spin his golf cart wheels in it. The greens! In excellent condition. I didn't see too many ballmarks that I could describe as being severe. The speeds of the greens were lightning fast. It was very tricky to get a long approach shot to catch and hold.

I enjoyed playing here and the staff was great. I played with 2 others and the whole round took about 4.5 hours considering that we had a group of pre-teens who thought they were golfers. I hope to get to play on the Champions track sometime soon.

Posted: Sunday, November 2, 2008
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spalding2 - Murrieta 
Best overall course condition in the valley. Greens are the best around, fast, true and firm. The only negative thing I can say about this place is the sand traps are full of rocks and not a whole lot of sand. You have got to play here at least once.

Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008
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jdavis - Long Beach 
Came out to play on Saturday and the course was in fantastic condition. The rough was a little long and the fairways had some dry areas but all in all was a great track. I really appreciate the fast and smooth greens. We played the course in 3 1/2 hours and had the beveraqe cart come around at least three times through out our round. I would make the drive from Long Beach again any day of the week to play this fine track. The only down side is you better eat breakfast before you get there because the kitchen does not open until like 10:00am.

Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008
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cgnadt - Beaumont, CA 
Hi happyhacker, thank you for your review and for visiting the East Valley Golf Club, Legends Course. The management of East Valley Golf Club takes your pace of play experience seriously and would like to learn more about your round on Sunday. Please contact any of our management team members as we would like to research this incident further and prevent future incidences. We were at 70% of our capacity on our Legends Course on Sunday, and did not recognize any pace of play concerns. Please contact us at (951) 845-0014. Thanks again for visiting East Valley Golf Club, we look foward to hearing from you soon.

Posted: Tuesday, October 14, 2008
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happyhacker - Montcair, CA 
Played on Sunday 11/12
Course was way overbooked
Took 3 1/2 hours to play front nine !!
Spoke with a marshall twice and was told that "there is a tournament in front of you who suck and there is nothing I can do to speed up play" So my group packed in the sticks and went home.
Great course, great shape, nice layout, but $85. for nine holes, never again.

Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008
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davidz - San Diego 
Heard alot about this course went today and the day started off really bad got a flat tire on the way. finally got there and the wind was howling and a brush fire started about 2 miles from the course. this course is really chalenging greens were awesome lay out very difficult front nine and then the back opens really really nice. you should try this course very nice.......

Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2008
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sinlee - Westminister 
I like play this course. Staff was very frienldy even startar talk to me in nice way. The greens very smooth and fast. Very beautiful golf course. I love korean food menu. Make place easy to come back. I come back many times from LA area.

Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2008
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chria - Mar Vista, CA 
Played 8/15, Friday afternoon, and we were the first ones out for quite a while, because we saw nobody. Course was in great condition and we had a great round, but I had a heck of a time figuring out the breaks on these greens. Almost every putt looked completely different from each side of the green. Also a lot of blind shots, but generally the terrain gave you some idea where to go. Great time for $40!

Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008
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compman12 - Newport Beach 
We played here the week of 7/28/08 and still love this course. Playing here these past summers used to be like playing in a swamp. This time around it looks like they finally have it together. The rough is very consistent but wow is it thick. Enjoyed the faster greens and the friendlier staff. If you get a chance this is a must play.

Posted: Sunday, August 3, 2008
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Al_Tuck154 - Lake Arrowhead, CA 
I absolutely love this golf course and it never disappoints. The Legends course is a little more scenic and always a treat to play. One of my buddies lives on the Legends course, so we always get to see it when we are having BBQ's on his patio. I play here quite frequently and this is the best the golf course has been in a long time. The greens are absolutely perfect! The bunkers play a lot better than they have in the past. It looks like the new management is really paying attention to the details, especially when many other courses are in terrible condition. The staff is outstanding and always accomodating to us. It is great that they continue to treat their loyal employees well. A must play! Hit em' straight.

Posted: Friday, August 1, 2008
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thetuchs - Lake Arrowhead 
We play Champions and Legends several times a week, and we love both courses. They are usually in excellent condition, with the exception of the bunkers, which are as hard as a rock. We love the staff as well, but have noticed of late that the morale is extremely low. Many club members and several key employees have disappeared. From asking around, we surmise that the new management is responsible. We also have noticed that only one course is open on Monday through Thursday, which makes for unnecessarily slow play. Last time out, we had to get a new cart twice, due to flat tires. Most of the tires on most of the carts are bald. Also, there is no hydration available from the early afternoon on - tough on those hot days. Again, these are management issues that need to be addressed. All in all, we love playing there and hope that the management has noticed the negatives and care enough to do something about them.

Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2008
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flyboy1 - Long Beach, CA 
Played today, 7/3 and was the third group off. The course was very green and lush.....a little too lush. The fairways, though they had no puddles, were VERY wet. There was absolutely no roll out there, yet the greens were extremely firm. The grass on the tee boxes, fairways and rough was thick and good length. The grass on the greens were sparse and they were firm, but the ball rolled true and fast. The bunkers that everyone complains about seem to have been addressed, at least the ones that I hit into. Maybe the bunkers on the Champions have not shown improvement, but the few that I came into contact with on the Legends were excellent. I love this course!!

Posted: Thursday, July 3, 2008
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stevekw - Irvine 
Had the chance to lay East Valley Legends today (5/30/08). This is a great course. Great value and very helpful staff. The traps need major work, hope they put some $$ into it. I will be playing again.

Posted: Friday, May 30, 2008
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franker - Irvine,CA 
Played on 5/2/08 and both golf courses are in excellent condition. I would recommend these golf course that like to play as if they were on the tour. All this course needs is a bunker renovation and it would rank up with pelican hill. I am definentley coming back to play these. Kudos to the superintendent and his crew

Posted: Friday, May 2, 2008
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on Thursday, 4/10, course was in very good to excellent condition. The fairways are lush and the right length, the rough though not high is sticky and thick, the greens smooth and quick. This facility has two of the best courses in the Inland Empire and their senior rate of $45.00 is more than worth the trip. They provide driving range balls with all green fees, and the balls are always in almost perfect shape. The Legends has same rating as the Champions course but I believe it is much harder. Legends has major bunkering around all the greens making approach shots tough. Because of the bunkering or elevation of the greens, many long or uphill par 4 holes become short par 5 holes for the average distance hitter. Trying to hit your 3 or 5 wood to one of these greens brings bunkers into play, and hitting the green with that much club can mean major trouble beyond the green. The front nine isn't that bad, in fact the first 4 holes will have you thinking I must be a wimp or hacker, but wait and see by the last hole if you aren't worn out from hitting so many woods or long irons. Also be forewarned, the first 7 greens on the "front 9" make the holes very difficult. Very undulating and tiered. On the par 4 holes make sure you land the ball at front of the green regardless of pin placement, these greens will take any ball hit from short middle of green or deeper well off the green surface. Holes number 1 and 6 are the most deceptive of all the greens on the course. Both appear to be sloped back to front but are anything but. Hitting just on the green on either hole will have you sitting in the middle of surface, and that's if you are hitting a short iron or wedge, anything more than an 8 iron hit it short. If pin is deep on the green than try for the middle of green with wedge or short iron, with 7 iron or more make sure to play just short of green. An iron hit just off the green short will easily end up beyond the middle of the green, sometimes off the back. I know hard to believe, but when you're there getting ready to chip remember the advice. Great golf facility, a very fair test of your game and playable for almost everybody. Players with serious driver misbehavior should make sure to bring lots of balls, 12 or more, you will need them.

Posted: Saturday, April 12, 2008
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sammyb40 - Redlands/Mentone 
Still one of my fav courses in the IE. Greens have all kinds of crazy colors of green in them but they were very firm and had a nice smooth roll. We play at 1 pm and easily got in 18 holes. It was a perfect day weather wise. This course demands you to be a decent driver of the ball or it can run up scores on you in a hurry.. I started off birdie and on the 2nd hole took a 8...
The driving range is included with the green fee, the only negative to that is I hit so many golf balls I left all my good shots on the range.. haha. This course is 1 of 3 must play courses when ever in the Inland Empire.

Posted: Wednesday, March 5, 2008
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CSpan - pasadena 
played early morning 2-16-08. First round of two today. Had an early morning frost delay, but it turned out to be one of the prettiest days I've ever seen out here. Crystal clear views of the snow capped mountains with temps in the mid 60s. This was our first time out here since the ownship change. Far as I can tell, nothing has changed - which is a good thing because I've always liked the staff here. Great starters and marshals - they really know their stuff and are friendly and attentive. The course is in great shape. The greens are a little hard, but that's probably due to the cold temps. The new owner hasn't done anything about the bunkers, and I'm not going to hold my breath about it.

Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008
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Bogey1Fogey38 - Pico Rivera 
Played our club tounament Sat 2/9. This was a fun but hectic day. We were met at our car, picked up and driven to the clubhouse and our clubs were put into the appropriate carts. Unfortuanely one of our players who was on the first tee time had his bag misplace, so our 2nd 4some went out so as not to hold up play. The wind was blowing and at times gusting which made the course more difficult than it already is. The customer service was not what we normally get at other tournament sites, the starter at the first tee did not have any special instructions, and when questioned on playing conditions and distance to the first hole fairway bunkers did not know. Tee boxes were decent, fairways were lush with some dry spots, still dormant. Rough was OK, with some dry spots, but had decent roll. The greens were fast, and difficult due to wind conditions. The bunkers were in sad shape, mostly fine dirt with rocks and pebbles, some shots were played with a stone or rock directly behind the ball which did not help a poor bunker player like me.

Overall it was a fun day of golf with my buddies, wind made it frustrating, hard to judge distance which varied due to wind gusts. One drive was 300 yds, downwind and downslope, another was 195 yds into the wind. I normally hit 220 - 230.

I would rate the course a good 7, with sand in the bunkers it's a good 8 ot 9. Don't play county clubs or high end courses, but I'm comparing it to Oak Quarry, or Mojave Resort in Laughlin or Primm Valley.

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008
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atlasdk - Alhambra, CA 
Played Sat 02/02/08. This course use to be PGA Southern Calif and now changed their name to East Valley Golf Club. Two 18 holes Courses, Legends & Champions. Both courses are in great shape. Bit cold but luckly no winds. Greens are in great condition, GK rating 8.5. Fairways are awesome. Both courses have many well placed fairway bunkers and greenside bunkers. Sands are OK, could be softer with warmer weather. They use to have $5 replay special which was great deal. Gave us incentive to spend more than three hours on the road to play here. Now they raise the rate to $20 which is still good.
Anyway, this is great course to visit if you never played here. I would recommend to get there early and play at least 27 holes.
To East Valley Gold Club, thank you and keep up the good work!
Bring back the $5 replay rate once a while.

Posted: Monday, February 4, 2008
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callykid - corona 
According to some "in the know", the new name for this golf course will be..........East Valley Golf Club, going into effect sometime next year.

Sounds so intriguing and original doesn't it?? I don't know about you, but it sure does stir my soul.....:)

Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2007
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Scotty - LBC 
Played 12/14 and it is true - the courses have been sold! This was my first visit to the Legends after reading many positive reviews from other Greenskeeper members. The course conditions were great. The $4 course book is necessary for any first time players as there are several "hidden" greens.

The course plays fair with ample room for stray shots. The many fairway bunkers are often in play so driving accuracy and placement is required. Greens are well protected, but reward well struck and positioned shots. However, to have a good score you must be able to effectively lag putt on large fast greens with lots of break.

This course is about 45 miles from Green River so coming from LBC or south county OC makes this an all day outing. Great food and service in the clubhouse for lunch. The onion rings are outstanding! Take a day off and round up you buddies and head to this great track before the price goes up and conditions go down.

Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2007
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geraldq18 - P'City 
Either me and bggpoppa were the dumbest or we were the smartest yesterday. A little rain, cold weather, windchill factor didn't stop us from playing this course yesterday. We had no one infront and no one behind us, so we had the course all to ourselves.... ="smartest". First, Customer service was excellent here. Staff was very friendly(hopefully new ownership doesn't change that). Course was awesome! Tee boxes were well maintained. Fairways were lush (some spots had drainage issues, but it did just rain). Greens were true, even with the rain, they were tough to read. Couple of holes we were hitting with the wind and a couple the wind was knocking your shots down made for a challenging round. Overall the course layout was great. Worth the $$.

Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007
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bggpoppa - Northridge 
Played with my bro Geraldq18 yesterday (Sunday) 12/10/07.. had rained on saturday and was drizzling when we got there.. Snow had just dusted the mountains and it was cold!! But all things considered the course was in awesome shape. Fast greens, lush fairways. Just a great time.. With the weather we were the only two out there till the clouds went away!

Posted: Monday, December 10, 2007
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poohck41 - Monterey Park 
Played on 11/24 as well. Frost delay pushed the 7:14 tee-off by about an hour. Probably one of the best maintained public course in So Cal. Layout is challenging, yet fair. An insider tip about the new ownership - they're required to comply with PGA mandated maintenance standard. Apparently, So Cal PGA has to maintain their presence at the course until 2012 or 2015. Hopefully, this alleviates the concerns of deteriorating conditions that are happening at other courses.

Posted: Thursday, December 6, 2007
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lkangsterl - diamond bar 
played saturday 11/24. i love this course and the champions course. favorite in all of socal. half price of those irvine courses but conditions, service, layout, greens, everything are 10x better. marshall told me a korean company bought the course, i hope it doesn't turn into a black gold /westridge/strawberry farms. back to reviewing the course, if you're looking for a challenge, this is the best course to play.

Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2007
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tonyellis - Apple Valley CA 
Played 11-23-07 @ 9am. Took approx. 4:45 because of a lot of slow play to begin with due to some very tough pins.

The golf course is very lush all around with very few bare spots (which are roped-off, under repair). Greens are firm, smooth and fast. Fairways beautiful. Rough 3 - 4 inches deep and thick. Even the bunkers were fairly fluffy, yet firm and consistant. Tee boxes also excellent.

Without a doubt, hole #7, a par 4, has one of the prettiest green-settings anywhere.

Staff and practice facilities are probably the best anywhere.

Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2007
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atlasdk - Alhambra, CA 
Played Sat 11/17. It was a Beautiful day to play on a beautiful golf course with good friends. Fairways were in excellent condition. Greens were firm and fast. Little hard to fix the ball marks. Have some difficulties reading the greens. Looks like there would be some breaks but didn't. Bunkers were regular very thin soil... no sands. That was the only downside. Other than that, everything were in excellent condition. There were not many OB areas thus you should able to hit your driver with ease. There are many green side bunkers but you shouldn't let them pressure you. If you are unsure, just take one club up and should be alright. They have $5 replay which is just awesome. Wish we could have replayed. Staffs were very nice. Cart girl was also nice. I give GK rating of 9.0 If they put some sands into their bunkers, I will give 9.5 to 10. Anyhow, thumbs up for PGA southern calif.

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2007
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on 10/30 at 8:06 and it was a perfect day for golf. Played a terrible front nine, but got it together on the back. This course and Champions are two of the best courses in So. Cal, and for seniors easily the best for the money. Even regular rate isn't bad for the quality of courses, service, and good pace of play. The fairways, tee boxes, and greens (fast, smooth, and receptive) were excellent. The layout is fair but challenging, though the back nine with its greenside bunkering and long par 4's might be a little severe. You normally have to score on the front nine and try to survive the back, though our group today did the exact opposite, funny game golf. Anyway hurry and play since the courses have definitely been sold though still currently under management of SCPGA. Once ownership changes don't expect the same green fees, the SCPGA is a non-profit organization which helped keep green fees in reasonable range. New owners won't have tax breaks and I can only guess they will raise their price to that of Oak Valley across the fwy. Also heard rumor that one of the two courses will become strictly private membership with neighborhood residents getting membership rates lower than general public. So play before the price goes up and the choice goes down.

Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2007
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Teed off early this morning. Every aspect of the course is in tip top shape. Greens are rolling great. It appears they're growing the rough out a bit - pretty lush today. With the great weather we're having right now, get out here if you can. You won't be disappointed.

Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2007
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jklepp - yorba linda 
First time playing this course, it is excellent. The only Knock on this course is that the sand traps are a little hard and a few are lacking sand. we played behind a tournament still finished in 4 hrs. Great course..

Posted: Friday, October 12, 2007
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buarts - RPV, CA 
10/06/07 round was renmarkable. Some of the best greens I putted on (list includes: Pebble, Spyglass & Pinehurst#2) Great layout from the blue tees. I'll be back soon. I hear the course may be soon sold, so don't delay if you have not played this gem. Biggest problem is the distance. But the greens fee reflects that it is in the middle of nowhere.

Posted: Tuesday, October 9, 2007
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delboy - Corona 
Lots of maintainance in progress. Tee boxes recently punched, lots of overseeding, some returfing in spots. Sand in the traps getting thinner and thinner. Since the bunkers are such a feature of these courses, this should be attended to. Course is still very good, employees are uniformly top notch, practice facility wonderful. Its just not as pristine as it was. Guess the summer was tough. Gave it a 7 whereas it was an 8.5 - for me, anyway.

Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2007
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jgrundtisch - San Pedro, CA 
Great course and very golfer friendly but way out in desert and long drive. Only worth effort when weather nice but not when it is hot. Course recently has grass fungus problem but they will deal with it. Nice practice facilities and frendly staff but new staff has done away with golf tourney with giveaways that brought in many from far away. Do not like all the houses being built around course.

Posted: Tuesday, September 4, 2007
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tonyellis - Apple VAlley 
Played 8-29-07.

Haven't been here for 3 years. Overall, this place is first class in practice facilities. Picking-up of clubs in the parking lot was right-on and checking in was very easy. Then there's the course.

Greens - almost perfect, rolling 10-11.5.

Fairways - Got hit with fungus recently so they were thin and inconsistent. Sometimes void of any grass. Too bad, but not the fault of the course. I'm sure they'll be fine soon.

Rough - 2-3 inches and very consistent with the exception of crab grass just off the 18th green to the right.

Tees - Level and very nice.

Bunkers - Almost unplayable towards the bottom. -Way too thin, hard-packed dirt. Hope for an upslope.

Layout - You have to know where to hit it off the tee,--don't guess or you'll pay dearly. Every hole is scenic, different from the last and a lot of fun.

I will definitely be back.

One other note: If you get there and it's too crowded to play either course, DO NOT HESITATE to play Oak Valley across the freeway. It's just as good if not better.

Posted: Thursday, August 30, 2007
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lwee1957 - Torrance 
It's been over a year since I last played here, Played again on 8/4. The course is still one of my favorite, and the only reason I don't get to play here more often is because of the long drive out. Overall, the course is great, except for the bunkers were a bit wet, but with the discounted summer rates, this is probably the best deal anywhere in Southern Cal. Will try to play here more often, especially with this cooler than normal summer temps.

Posted: Sunday, August 5, 2007
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sirgolfalot - Whittier, CA 
It has been two months since my last visit to the SCPGA, and it never lets me down. Everything from the course condition to the staff is excellent. I am use to paying $85 there on weekend mornings with the $5 rate for a replay, but they have a deal for 50 bucks plus $5 for the replay. I would pay $90 for 36 holes there any day, but 36 holes for $55 is the best deal in town, hands down!

Posted: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on 7/04 and course was in its usual very good to excellent conditions. Guess holiday made play slow, but was following the kind of guys hitting 200 yards drives and wait for green to clear 300 yards away before the hit. Waited on a couple of par 4 holes for the green to clear which was well over 300 yards. Legends is definitely the tougher course of the two here. Severe bunking around the greens, and placed in the fairway make it tough. If you don't hit your driver at least 270yds consistently don't even think about playing this at any length over the blue tees. Blue tees here are typically white on most other courses. At approximately 6400 yds. this thing is a brute and much longer than a lot of courses I play that are 6600-6800 yards. Special course and is worth the green fees, and for another $5.00 you can play the Champions, if you still feel a need for more

Posted: Sunday, July 22, 2007
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michaelko - Arcadia 
Played fri 6/22, 12pm tee time, $5 replay...can't beat that... combined with $50 anytime summer rate... worth the drive from anywhere. course in excellent shape. Played in 3 hours 20 min as a 2 some. greens are quick and tough... killed my score. houses are prominent, compared to 3 years ago... no houses... 5 years ago, no building... but not right on top of the course. i.e., you won't lose a ball in someone's backyard unless you hit a REALLY bad shot. more building on this course.
weather not bad at all. wind picked up a little, and got pretty hot, but very comfy.

Posted: Saturday, June 23, 2007
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sirgolfalot - Whittier, CA 
We played the Legends Course on our $5 Replay after playing the Champions track in the morning. The Legends is equally as good as the Champions in condition and seems to be a little more forgiving. The greens on the Legends may even be a little better than the Champions. The customer service is phenominal! The guy in the proshop remembered my name from my morning round and was very helpful and friendly.

Posted: Saturday, June 2, 2007
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Played the morning of May 6. The course is in A+ condition. The greens are recovered from the most recent aeration and the they are rolling smooth and fast. Every area of the course is in tip top shape. With the $5 replay, any serious golfer would be wise to take advantage of these 2 courses right now. I just played Industry Hills as well, and while I like the Ike and the new upgrades, the PGA facility still is superior (except for the bunkers - although they look like they've been dragged recently).

Posted: Thursday, May 10, 2007
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Played Sat afternoon - 2nd round of the day on the $5 replay. The course is in B+ shape. The greens aren't fully recovered from aeration and the fairways were a little shaggier than Champions. The house construction is moving along, and the feel of a lot of holes have changed pretty dramatically. Still, it was a fun round and I think the service here is second to none. Besides, where else can you play two courses of this quality in one place for a total of $90 on the weekend?

Posted: Wednesday, May 2, 2007
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steve663 - aliso viejo 
A well conditioned, scenic, fun, challenging, worth it(36holes) golf course. The greens are a bit slow but will recover nicely from the holes and sand. Unfortunately, houses are popping up to spoil the landscape. Maybe I will buy one!?

Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Teed off early this morning. The course is in very good condition, although the greens were a little shaggy (they'll be aerating soon). The tee boxes, fairways and rough were in tip-top shape. This course used to have a very remote feel, but now they've started home construction on this course and that remote feel is largely gone. In addition, so much of the desert has been cut back (including large hillsides) that this course looks and feels very different from the one that had become a favorite of mine. We used to see coyotes and hawks, but I don't really see the animals anymore. Sad. Having said all that, this still is a terrific test of golf, and the staff here is among the best in SoCal - particularly the starters Keith and Jerry. They welcome you to the course with a smile and a good attitude. Good job guys - we appreciate it.

Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2007
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sammyb40 - Redlands/Mentone 
Played today March 13th, 2007, Course was in very good shape and the weather was perfect 82 degrees with a light breeze. Fairways were plush and the greens were fast. The bunkers had some hard sand but I prefer hitting out of that myself. Still one of my favorite course in the Inland Empire. Props to the greens keeper..

Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2007
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664400gg - Torrance 
Plasyed the Legends 3 March and it was in excellent condition for winter season. Only concern was the very high winds but it was still fun to play, just more challenging. The staff; pro shop, starter, course officials, cart staff and restaurant staff were all professionals and very custometr friendly. Great place to play a great game of golf.

Posted: Sunday, March 4, 2007
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corybean - Long Beach 
Played here Mid February on a long weekend that included Oak Quarry, and Oak Valley.

Course is in good shape, but still dry. Hopefully improved with the recent rains. Many interesting holes, but with all the construction the visual beauty of the course is quite diminished. I played here several years ago before all the construction and it was a real treat to be without distraction, just you and the course....and the occasional train. :-)

The strong winds (which are frequent) make some of the holes play very short (Long Par 5's in some cases I could reach in two and I'm not a big hitter), and conversely others played very, very long.

The $5 replay makes playing here a great value. Overall a fun course, good layout and good condition. However, keep Oak Quarry and Oak Valley in mind when you're deciding where to play.

Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2007
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topshelf - RC, SD 
Played this twice last weekend-the $5 replay is a great deal! The course was in very good shape with one exception: the bunkers. Very little sand. Extremely hard-more like hitting off of dirt. The explosion shot was not the right choice, as it was easy to bounce the club off of the hard surface and blade the ball.

Otherwise, a great challenging layout with nice views and good conditioning. Service was excellent. I would definitely play this course again!

Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2007
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on Super Bowl Sunday and course was in its usual excellent condition. Greens were fast and smooth, fairways, green, teeboxes level. Staff is one of the best in the Inland Empire, courteous and informative, and try to keep the pace of playing flowing. Legends, though rated the same as the Champions, is definitely the more difficult course. The bunkering on the Legends is severe around most of the greens, making a run up all but impossible. A lot of construction going on so play soon before it becomes like some generic housetrack type of golf experience,

Posted: Wednesday, February 7, 2007
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atlasdk - Alhambra 
Play 12/30/06. Beautiful course. Fairways are great - I give a A. Greens are firm and bit tricky. Good customer services and good food at the club house. Overall rating of 9 for PGA golf course. Definitely will go back to play the Champion course.

Posted: Wednesday, January 3, 2007
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sportsdoc - Pasadena 
Played on Turkey Day. Great day for golf. The greens were tough and fast but many repaired ball marks from over use. The fairways were awesome. Course had some wet spots. Sand traps were okay. Watered and packed was hoping for some more fluff. Looking foward to playing the Champions course.

Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2006
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CSULB1994 - Long Beach 
This place is a gem. Absolutely the best golf course I play. It's getting tougher to get a tee time out there on the weekend. It's been jammed the last few weekends I've been out there. The whole place jest keeps getting better and better.

Posted: Saturday, October 28, 2006
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nauqah - Orange 
Played 10/22. The conditions of the course were really nice. The greens rolled great and did not have too many ball marks. The fairways were cut perfectly. The wind was blowing so that made it a bit more challenging. There are numerous doglegs throughout the course so ball placement is key. Most holes are very very secluded and you really do fell like you're playing somewhere very special...but some holes you can see all the houses being built -- strange variety there. Bring your A game if you want to score well. Oh, the marshall is going going up and down the cart path during the first 2 holes but is never to be seen again after that...which is pretty bad because our round took 5 hours to finish

Posted: Monday, October 23, 2006
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tazboy329 - los angeles 
Perfect condition, keep up the good guys.

Posted: Sunday, October 8, 2006
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parsrgood - orange county,ca 
Played 8/26 in the afternoon after having played the champions in the am. Found the legends to be very subpar in comparison to the champions course. The fairways were either wet & muddy, or had bare spots. Also, it looked like another victim of heavy play, as fairways were full of divots, which looked like pot holes. Greens were not rolling as true either. Finally, bunkers was like dirt.

Posted: Monday, August 28, 2006
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lkmckin - La Mirada 
Played 8/19 am. Love this course, great routing and fair layout. Greens had a little sand, so were a bit slow while damp in the am, but so was the practice green. Only other complaint was the thin sand in one of the bunkers, with a hard clay floor lurking underneath. Makes for a disasterous blast attempt. Good service, great discount rate through August. Give it a 9 overall.

Posted: Monday, August 21, 2006
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CSpan - pasadena 
Oops, the review below was for the Champions course. We teed off this morning on Legends. The course is in very good condition. Fairways, rough, tee boxes - all are in fairly tip top shape. My only complaint would be that the greens were a little bumpy. They rolled fast, but several putts took detours after hiting a few bumps. It was a fun time again though, and if you play here, you won't be disappointed.

Posted: Saturday, June 17, 2006
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Teed off mid-afternoon today. As always, the winds were whipping around pretty this afternoon. The Champions course is in B+ shape overall. Several holes have stakes in the fairways which apparently mark areas that are under repair. A few fairways had spots of casual water. The rough is in good shape though. The greens were a little inconsistent. Some were a little sandy and bumpy, and others were smoother and rolled better. I thought I used to like the Champions course more than Legends, but I've now changed my mind. I now feel Legends is the better layout; a little more strategy and a little tougher test from tee to green.

Posted: Saturday, June 17, 2006
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callykid - corona 
I returned here after a 1 1/2 year hiatus. I used to play here religously every chance I got. Then the internet deals, magazine deals shriveled up and the place got way too expensive, or from what I was used to paying. The place has changed! Homes abound, but it's more on the Champions. That's why I love the Legends. The routing is more interesting and the peacefulness and solitude you feel on the middle holes is 2nd to none. Then the darn trains rumbles thru, blowing it's horn and ruins it!!! But anyways, the conditions here are usually pretty good and last Saturday was no exception. Tee to green, everything is ship shape, but the greens have a light sand on them. Your ball still rolls fine, but it actually makes them play a little easier. When these greens are pristine, you can 3 putt in a heartbeat they're so dog-gone fast. Sad to see homes creeping in on holes 5 and 6, but that's just life I guess. At least they're not right on the holes, they're back a ways. Bottom line, nice place, nice facility, fairly friendly people, but it's not what it used to be. Don't want to sound like a grump, but something's missing here, can't explain it.

Posted: Tuesday, May 30, 2006
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Teed off at 215p, after playing a morning round on Champions. The wind was kicking up, but another terrific round. The course is in very good shape - not as good as Champions, but just fine nonetheless. The greens are very good right now, but rolling slightly less fast than Champions. The replay rate is $25, so we played 36 today for $85 bucks - no other place in SoCal to play for that price on 2 top shelf courses. Cart girl did a great job - she kept coming around and gave us good service. Another great day in Beaumont.

Posted: Friday, May 19, 2006
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ping45 - Highland 
I play this course at least once a week,and alternate between it and the champions course. The legends is set up to offer both the long and short hitter a good challenge for their money. Although the fairways are fairly open, and reward accuracy, the course is set up to demand good distance control on all approach shots....no "running" shots on the greens here.It does require knowing your distance capabilitiy on all clubs. Sand traps could be a little less "shallow", however the greens are well manicured and overall the course is very well maintained. The mountain views are fantastic...however, like so many courses, houses are slowly encroaching and ultimately will detract somewhat from the beauty....Overall, a great place to play!

Posted: Monday, May 1, 2006
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on 4/23 and as usual the course was in very good condition. Greens were punched and sanded about 3 weeks ago and have totally recovered. The Champions were punched last Monday so The Legends is the course to play for now. Added bonus is Legends has much less construction going on and still is sort of secluded. The Champions side is getting so many homes it is like playing in a Condo-type layout, except for the quality of the holes and conditioning of the course. Either course is a 'must play' and will not disappoint. Just be sure to pick the right set of tees to play from. The two courses, when played at about 6400-6500 yards, will play like most 6800 yard courses. You will hitting long irons or fairways woods to most greens if you can't hit a real 240-250 off the tees.

Posted: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
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silar001 - Upland 
The Key to this course is not distance, it is all about accuracy. Beautiful scenery, awesome greens, and amazing holes. Overall a great course.

Posted: Monday, April 10, 2006
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huskerzn97 - Kansas City, MO 
Frost delay? Get outta here. 10 degrees colder here than Palm Springs, so keep that in mind if you decide to come here. No GPS, but sporty carts. They should get GPS if they want to rise to the level of premiere golf course. This course, unlike Champions, has no construction going on, but you have to listen to the trains which run by a few holes. Pace was outstanding. We felt all alone on this course. They have a nice drink stop after 9. Cart service was very good and friendly rangers came by a few times. Loved the track and the picturesque holes here. The clubhouse is fantastic. Frost delay gave us a chance to enjoy an awesome breakfast. If you can get the $5 replay, by all means, drive up from the desert and play both wonderful courses. Comlimentary balls on the great driving range too. I highly recommend both bargain-priced courses, but would pay more for GPS.

Posted: Sunday, February 26, 2006
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parman18 - huntington beach 
traps were horrible ..full of rocks and pebbles...also cell phone usage on course was too much by alot of 4 somes...BAN CELLPHONES!! either play golf or do business at work

Posted: Friday, February 24, 2006
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on 01/28 in the morning. Slight frost delay, still got around in about 4 hours. Everything about this course is first rate, from layout to conditioning. Greens looked a little discolored due to cold weather, but were in perfect shape, rolled fast and true, and would hold approach shots. It was a perfect day for golf, just wish we could have been up to the challenge, but a $5.00 replay on Champions was motivation to put the game into shape.

Posted: Monday, January 30, 2006
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xavier92264 - WHITTIER 
TEED OFF AT ABOUT 11:45AM AFTER WE PLAYED THE CHAMPIONS COURSE. FINISH IN ABOUT 4:30 HRS. AGAIN COURSE IN GREAT SHAPE FROM TEE BOXES TO FAIRWAYS TO GREENS. THE ONLY THING THAT COULD USE SOME HELP ARE THE SAND TRAPS. NO TOP SAND ALL BASE DIRTY. IT HAD RAINED THAT NIGHT SO MAYBE THATS WHY THE TRAPS HAVE NO SAND. ANYWAY GREAT COURSE. GOOD JOB GUYS & GIRLS!

Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2006
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flyboy1 - Huntington Beach 
Played this morning just before 8am. The wind was HOWLING today. The course was in excellent shape. Greens were fast and firm. Sand in the bunkers was sparse, but not so little as to create a difficulty getting out. Indeed, there was some standing water in the bunkers, but only a few. I'm sure this problem was exacerbated by the big rain storms of the last couple of days. The fairways were lush and the grass was cut nice and short, including in the chipping areas around the green and the tee boxes. The wind made the front nine play really short, but the back nine was all into the wind except hole 14. On the front nine, the two longest par 4's, # 5 & 7 played extremely short (even from the tips). But the back nine was wicked. This course is definately worth $60. The customer service is pretty good and the facility is outstanding, including free range balls with the green fee.

Posted: Wednesday, January 4, 2006
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stuff99 - Long Beach 
This is a great golf course. Its only problem is its location. It takes a full days commitment to play because of where it is. Great condition for this time of the year.

Posted: Thursday, December 29, 2005
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on 12/26 and course was is very good condition, with the exception of a couple tee boxes. Greens always seem to roll true and the course is fair but very challenging. Group in front of us were playing from the blue tees and could not drive the ball more than 150yds. There is no shame in playing from other than blue tees. Was a good day for golf and worth the price, being the only course not charging holiday rates every day until after New Year's

Posted: Monday, December 26, 2005
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markallen - Rialto 
Best conditions ever. It is a PGA course once again. Kudos to the superintendent and his staff

Posted: Tuesday, December 13, 2005
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han971 - winnetka 
Played PGA SOCAL Champions and Legends for first time 11/5 and 11/6. I can't say enough great things about these courses. I've been to Sherwood Country Club and I never thought I would see another course so greatly manicured (especially not a public course). Boy was I wrong! Both Champions and Legends were immaculate. Not only was the grass lush and green (greener than green), but everything was cut just right. Fairways were cut low, rough was about 3.5 inches, bunkers were in great shape and the greens were perfect. Oh not to forget...An $80 weekend green fee is dirt cheap for courses of such calibur. I live more than 80 miles away, but I'm definitely considering playing either of these courses at least once a month. Hats off to two great public courses.

Posted: Monday, November 7, 2005
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jackcumsting - newport beach 
wow the golf course is in tournament condition. The greens are rolling true and the fairways are lush. It looks like things are finally improving for the best. I hope they keep it this way year round. If you want to every play this beautiful course now is the time to play.

Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2005
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OrangeJuilius - Fullerton 
Came back to PGA of Southern California but this time to play the Legends course. Last time I played the Champions course I was very disappointed with the wet conditions. Today on the Legends course, it was a different story. Course conditions were rather good with exception to some bunkers. Greens were rolling true, fairways were lush and not too wet, rough spotting in some place but good, tee boxes a little shaggy but good, and pace of play just under 4 ½ hours. My guess it they are jazzing the place up for the coming Champions Tour Q-School next week. Hope they continue the excellent up keep when the event is over. Either way, I’ll be coming back. The layouts on the Legends & Champions are outstanding and the price is an excellent value.

Posted: Tuesday, October 25, 2005
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tmtmtl - Hemet 
The course was in really great shape today. If you're able to make a trip out here in the next few days, before the Champions Tour Q-School First Stage (Oct 30 - Nov 4), you will be impressed.

Posted: Monday, October 24, 2005
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kendall - walnut 
9 Am tee time 9/30. Happy I had a discount, this is one of our favorite tracks, but ya might want to wait a few weeks. greens bumpy,fairways wet and bare spots,traps a mess,too much water. They were hosting some type of Junior Tourny the next day, I hope they played the Champions as a lot of the youngsters with parents appeared to be arriving from far away origins, what a disapointment if the Legends was the destn course. I think in a few weeks it will be fine. I will wait a little while before I return. All other areas , staff, practice area, everything was as usual great. See ya in a few weeks,

Posted: Tuesday, October 4, 2005
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tmtmtl - Hemet 
Played Legends midday today. Although I've seen this course too wet, as the most recent poster complains, it was just fine in that respect today. Also, it appears that they are putting in some of that good sand that they had put in on the Champions course a while back. Furthermore, there were several areas marked as Ground Under Repair, which is a much appreciated improvement over prior rounds in which no such demarcation had occurred, even though it was obviously warranted. So, good job on these improvements, guys!

Now for the bad news. Although the fairways are dry, several of the bunkers continue to have standing water in them. Also, I don't know what golfingdude is talking about as to the condition of the greens. I'm sure they'll be fine in a few days, but as of today the aerification holes were still visible and in effect. I saw multiple putts ride the troughs created by these holes against the slope of the green. I played Champions on Friday, and the greens had fully recovered there, but Legends has a couple of days left before they're back to form.

All things considered, this course is worth playing, and all the more so in a couple of days when the greens have FULLY recovered from the aerification. Especially once the new sand has been added to all the traps (they were working back from 18, I think, and were on 16 today).

Posted: Monday, October 3, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
Everyone has their own taste said the old lady when she kissed the cow. I played the course a few days ago with two pros and they were constantly talking about how good the course was and the shame that the conditions were so average. For some reason, which I would ask the greenskeeper to answer, the greens here are punched every six weeks with intermitant sanding and verticuting. We the players wonder when do we ever see the benefit? Almost everyone agrees, with the exception of the previous person, that the traps are seriously neglected due to lack of sand and standing water or damp shallow bottoms. My other player friend, who is a greenskeeper himself, says the fairways are overwatered which is drowning the root system due to lack of oxygen. This condition is exacerbated by players driving over unmarked wet spots causing even more damage. I have read and been told that the reason for overwatering is the hot conditions. Please explain to me how Silverrock, Mission Hills, and Rancho LaQuinta; courses I played in the Sept. heat of the desert, were dry. Maybe I am just too critical, but after many years playing golf, I think I know whether or not a course is in good condition or not.

Posted: Sunday, October 2, 2005
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Sorry the previous poster was so disappointed with the course condition. I played on 10/01 and the conditions were excellent. Yes the greens were punched about 10 days ago but they were completely healed and rolling true, as usual. In fact we will be playing the Champions next week because the price for seniors is great and the courses are too. Maybe the course was played when maintenance was doing their thing, because today there could be no complaints.

Posted: Saturday, October 1, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
I played the course yesterday and enjoyed it for it s scenery and great layout, but there are some real problems here. When do we the players finally see the results of constant sanding, punching and verticuting the greens? They are bumpy and not rolling true. If you are the typical higher handicap golfer, one would probably not be so concerned, but for those of us who work hard on our games, it is annoying and difficult to putt. Some of the traps, hole no. two especially, have standing water. The fairways in most places are great, but look a bit shaggy and wet in others. I see that the maintainance people are putting some white sand on the facing of the traps, but not in the areas where your ball ends up. I would prefer to leave the facing as it is and use the sand where it is needed. There is an obvious lack of money available and this is a real shame. Someone needs to find a solution that brings some serious revenue to the operation. I believe this course could be one of the finest in all of S, CA, if the right people put their heads together,

Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2005
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1putt - Tortoiseville, ca 
The course is too wet. The traps have no sand and unfair. Many have mud bottoms with water from morning overwatering. So many areas that should be marked ground under repair. To many ball marks on the greens. overall condition is mediocre. If you dont mind the conditions, the layout is good, but I suggest wearing old shoes.

Posted: Wednesday, September 7, 2005
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No_Mulligans - Rialto 
Played today and I was disappointed with the playing conditions. It looks like the summer heat has taken a tool on the PGA of Southern California golf courses. The fairways were lush in most areas, soggy in some areas, and dead in others. I was told that this is because the turf is a type more suited for cooler temperatures and that they will improve in coming months. The greens rolled pretty good although a bit slow for my tastes. Not as many ball marks as I expected based on the previous comments. My advice is to wait a month before playing PGA of SoCal to let it recover.

Posted: Monday, September 5, 2005
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Great course, great condition, great location. Customer service is second to none, and free range balls is a real touch of class and caring for the customer. Unless the course is undergoing some type of maintenance it is always in pristine condition. If you want to complain about ballmarks on the greens fix them when you see them. If everyone would adopt that philosophy ballmarks would be a non-issue everywhere, right? So spread the word, fix your ballmarks and quit your crying

Posted: Saturday, September 3, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
One big problem here is an excessive amount of unrepaired ball marks on the greens. This is the fault of the people who play here and partly the managements responsibility. The hosts who sometimes drive around the course should be assigned this duty. We all know that an unrepaired mark takes days to recover versus taking a few seconds to be considerate. I would like to see please repair ballmark signs on each tee and mentioned by the starters. The problem is getting serious for those of us who like to play well conditioned courses. Putting is hard enough.

Posted: Saturday, August 27, 2005
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pmayes - Yucaipa, Ca 
We had 82 Golf Course Superintendent's from around the L.A. and Palm Springs area play here yesterday. Many of them from very exclusive facilities. They were very impressed and complimentary with the conditions of the golf course. My peers don't make comments like this if they don't believe in them. Oh, by the way, I shot 68 from the blue tees and was two for two getting up and down out of the bunkers.

Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2005
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kendall - walnut 
We play this track about once a month, trouble is in the good weather times you get to the parking lot and the wind has trees bent sideways,and we go back to Moreno Valley or somewhere and have a calmer day on the links. In the summer its freaking hot, but, we LOVE this course,,,I am an 11 and my buddie are below that. If a plugged lie screwed up our day I guess we would just quit the game and go bowling. I agree with EVERYTHING everybody has said, But,, name me a daily everyday regular golf course that comes close to PGA that isnt having trouble getting steady business. I can ony name one,, SCGA. and they have LOWERED their fees to compete. Soooo,, I do hope PGA gets things repaired, I really like the Legends, and for the $$ I dont mind a few problems. We travel a long ways, if this was a $90 course we would never go there,no way, no need to go that far,
Too many good courses much closer. So you see what I am trying to say is us MORTALS that are just regular 11 hdcpers are just trying to have a fun day with our buddies,, if the place upset me I would never go back, ever!!!!!!!

Posted: Monday, July 18, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
I want to clear the air for you guys that want an answer to the question, is it worth driving one hundred miles to play these courses? Yes, they are both great tracks and test every level of player. The facilities are great and so are the people, but there is a conditioning problem. Come play the course and see for yourselves. The fees are low and you will be well treated. Just dont tell me that I am some disgruntled crackpot because I have a critical eye when I see poor playing conditions. For players like myself, who have a below scratch handicap, the conditions effect our scoring ability. A shot that ends up in a muddy sandless hardpan bunker that is unraked can make the difference between a low score and an average day. Ball marks and sodded green collars due to inexperienced maintainance workers causes havoc to otherwise good shots. Has anyone ever seen a ground under repair sign or a limed area? Even the higher handicap players are aware of these problems. Suppose you were about to break ninety for the first time and your ball plugged in one of the dirt faces of the traps becoming unplayable or one of the areas where your ball settles in pure dirt depressions around the green leaving an impossible chip shot. Still, I say these could be the two best courses in S. ca. If only they could get their excrement accumulated.

Posted: Monday, July 18, 2005
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glennflawn - laguna beach 
Thank you for all your postings about the PGA course in Beaumont. You seem to have some great insider information. Several of my friends and I are thinking about playing there in the near future and had leared alot from you. Do you play there on a regular basis? Did you used to work there? We are looking forward to playing there and letting you know what we think.

Posted: Sunday, July 17, 2005
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CSULB1994 - Long Beach 
I think I like the Legends course better than the Champions. That stretch of holes that starts on the little 80 yard par 3 on top of the hill and winds down and around the countryside for the next 5 or 6 holes is amazing. It's like you are out in the middle of nowhere playing this beautiful golf course. To me, that's what golf is all about, escaping for a few hours into this beautiful setting. For some reason, the Legends also seems to be just a bit more polished than the Champions. The bunkers are a touch better, the greens seem a little easier to putt. Just a great experience and well worth the drive from the LBC.

Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
Overwatered fairways and greens. Players do not rake the miserable traps. Very little sand, if any. Ball marks on the green make putting difficult. Players should be reminded of this before they tee off or hosts should repair as they drive around the course. The maintainance people drive their noisy gas vehicles past you as you are taking a shot. Poor instruction by the greenskeeper. Greens are mowed unevenly, especially around the edges where equipment has done extensive damage. Never saw a ground under repair sign. Divots all over the place. Why cant players be reminded before they play. Again, the hosts could do this. Tees have uneven footing. The rubber mats on the carts were polished with Armorall which made the surface extremely slippery and dangerous. Does anyone wonder why this course has gone from being number one to way down the list? Got paired up with a guy who shot a twelve on the first hole. Can you imagine playing with someone like that?

Posted: Saturday, July 9, 2005
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
Played on 7/2 and the course was in excellent shape except for the greenside bunkers. For some reason they have been very wet the last couple of months, making them almost unplayable. They are a hazard so maybe we shouldn't complain, just avoid them. Very reasonable price for seniors before 8:00 A.M., otherwise the green fees are high ($75.00) even with range balls thrown in.

Posted: Sunday, July 3, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
Played the legends today and had both positive and negative impression. The good news is that they finally put some sand on the facing upslopes of the traps. This looks good, but the ball still ends up in the muddy,hardpan centers. The worst I encountered was the high weeds just a few feet in front of the 18th tee. I was under par on the back nine and had to search for a spot on the tee so as to avoid what was an obvious and unfair condition. Nevertheless, I hit the weeds and lost at least 25 yards off my drive. I have seen this happen to several players lately with even worse results. I also had to share my cart with a most unsavory character which probably cost me at least two shots.

Posted: Thursday, June 16, 2005
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kendall - walnut 
As usual the Legends was in very nice shape,with bunkers the exception, we had a 7:30 ish tee time thursday,we were a 3 some and our bad luck was we were behind a nice but slow group of Long Beach players that couldnt keep up with thier buddies in front of them, as I said our bad luck,,, but,, marshalls are ,,WHAT,,, $5 an hour and free golf? Never saw a marshall, and they put a 2 some behind us!!! They were really upset. We really like these courses, but as there was no one else in the parking lot we wonder why they didnt put us out on the Champions?? We will be back,, maybe,, a long drive for an early AM tee time and stand around most of the time,,, or,, maybe just bad luck.

Posted: Friday, June 10, 2005
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marcbrdtrts - rancho mirage 
I have played the course several times and it is a great track. However, there are some severe drawbacks. The traps are hardpan with little or no sand. Many good rounds have been spoiled due to poor lies and mud. Divots are all over that are unfilled. Ball mark damage is obvious. Pins are not sunk properly and you have the saucer effect along with ragged cup edges. I have never seen a ground under repair sign or limed area. Ball washers have no water. Tees are ok, but have some soft spots that bother your footing. This is a fantastic course that could be the crown gem of all California courses if these problems were addressed. Lack of money is the cause.

Posted: Saturday, May 28, 2005
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rathke248 - Las Vegas 
Course in great shape: greens were in excellent shape; had only 12 putts on the front nine; Pace of play was slow as we were a twosome playing behind two very slow foursomes. Would highly recommend this course to anyone and a great value at $55 when compared to similiar courses in Las Vegas

Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Played this morning. The course is in excellent shape - the only complaint is that some of the bunkers lack sand. The service was excellent as well, and one thing they've changed for the better is that instead of giving you a token for range balls, the balls are now stacked on the range. So now you don't have to battle the machine that often didn't work. Now you pay and go straight to the range, minus the stop at the machine or back at the cart barn to pick up the balls. A small thing, but much appreciated. Another small touch - at the tee box on Hole 1, they had a small pot with water in it so you can wet your towel - nice. I played Empire Lakes the day before, and there is no comparison - the PGA facility is much, much better all the way around.

Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2005
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SuperTiger18 - Rancho Cucamonga, CA 
Played on 5/14 -- Course was in good shape. My two biggest complaints are:

- The started indicated that the greens were playing to a 12 on the stimpmeter. There is no way this was accurate. Maybe a 7.5 or 8, but nowhere close to 12. The greens were nowhere close to the indicated speed.

- The bunkers contained more a lot of gravel. I understand the cause and that the Course Super has plans to correct the problem, but it doesn't make up for the fact that they are in poor condition.

Overall it is a good course. I played it a year ago and it was in phenomenal shape. For the most part the same held true again with the exception of the bunkers. I would recommend that every at least give it a try. It is a test of total golf skill and plays nearly a half stroke to a full stroke per hole more difficult that others I've played recently.

Posted: Monday, May 16, 2005
Member Since: March 4, 2005
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
This course is in fantastic condition. Play more difficult than Champions because of bunkering around greens. Some very long par 4s. Greens are quick and have a lot of subtle breaks that can wreck havoc on those short putts. The par 3 fourth hole will show you why an extremely short hole can be so treacherous. Excellent facility worth the green fee. Price includes range balls which is a nice touch, more courses should follow their lead.

Posted: Sunday, May 8, 2005
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melnick - Rancho Palos Verdes 
Course is in immaculate condition, except for the greens which have recently been punched/sanded. I was told on the phone that there were only 'a few holes' on the green. What I wasn't told was that there was lots of sand. The greens which are usually litning fast were slowed down quite a bit (good), but they were extremely bumpy (bad).

The first 5 holes are extremely narrow with very long rough and I was concerned that I would run out of balls. The course then opens up and is extremely playable on the back 9.

Practice areas (driving range, putting green, chipping area, sand bunker area) are extremely nice. You could easilty spend an afternoon just using these facilities to work on your short game.

Posted: Friday, April 15, 2005
Member Since: January 26, 2004
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noeldaof - Palmdale, CA 
Green fee should be no more than $40 with a cart.

Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005
Member Since: November 4, 2004
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CSpan - cspan 
Played the afternoon of 3/5/05. Despite the rains, the course is in terrific condition. Staff should be given a big hand. No complaints, and the bunkers on this course are in better shape than on the Champions course. We played 36 today, and finished both courses and lunch in 9 1/2 hrs. Where else is that possible? This place is tops.

Posted: Friday, March 11, 2005
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golfman123 - RIALTO 
RUFF TO HI DATE PLAYED 03-07-05

Posted: Thursday, March 10, 2005
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alanmode - Cerritos 
Finally played golf without rain, God. 2/26/05 12.27 tee time.
Good game.good condition especilly $45 green fee.
What can I beg more.

Posted: Monday, February 28, 2005
Member Since: March 29, 2003
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pmayes - Yucaipa, Ca 
I wish to address the condition of the bunkers. Because of the delopement surrounding the property, heavy rodent infestation has been a concern on the golf course. This is especially true on the bunker faces. This activity has caused soil contaimination in the bunkers and when mixed with the sand can sometimes make the bunkers surfaces hardpaned. Also, with this year's heavy rain events, some bunkers were silted in by material that came from the perimeter developement. Many of these bunkers had to be rebuilt. This has caused inconsistancies from the rebuilt bunkers to the original ones. Our plans are to renovate our bunkers when the opportunity lends itself. We appreciate your comments and look forward to serving you in the future. We at the PGA want your golfing experience to be a pleasant one. Thank you! Sincerely, Paul Mayes, Director of Golf Course Maintenance

Posted: Friday, February 25, 2005
Member Since: May 15, 2003
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alanmode - Cerritos 
Played Sat.2/12/05 12;27 .We reserved champions course but cause of heavy rain they switched to Legends.First impression was less construction stuffs than champions. Only problem here is so far from my home(Cerritos) & work (los angeles). 1hour 15-20 minutes. They e-mailed me 50% off of birthday month promotion that I think use last week of month cause this week I have tournament at Los Robles. Nice course.

Posted: Tuesday, February 15, 2005
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gosako - Brea, CA 
Even after the rain, the greens were firm & do not hold well. It doesn't deserve the 9+ immaculate rating at this time. Give it time to recover and hopefully it will be back in top shape.

Posted: Sunday, February 13, 2005
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LEEZERS - SIERRA MADRE 
WISH MARSHALLS WOULD START GROUPS OFF AT APPROPIATE TEE FOR HANDICAP

Posted: Tuesday, February 1, 2005
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erdoctor - Corona 
The course is in nice shape but not the best that I have seen it. There's only a little bit of damage from the recent rains. I'd play there any day at $40 with a coupon. The sand traps were inconsistent. The fairway traps had fluffy deep sand while the greenside traps were bare and hard. The weather was perfect with very little wind. I think oak valley across the street may be in better shape right now. However, they may be the tops in the socal area at this time because of the recent downpours. The marshall seemed to be helpful in keeping things moving. Would recommend the drive to anyone in the LA area.

Posted: Sunday, January 23, 2005
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kendall - walnut 
9 am Tee time today. very windy on the back 9,pace of play was terrific,course is in great shape, we will be back next week. worth the drive,,,,

Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2005
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel 
We made all day trek to these two courses and played both in one day. Both courses are immaculate. Only complaints: some of the sand in traps was very thin with lots of rocks; and, on some holes a thin black trim was exposed on edge of green. If you ball hit it, the ball popped straight up into the air. I think it's the edging around the green. In any case, customer service was fabulous. I had a hole in one on #8 (my first!). They gave me a certificate, will send out an announcement to their email club, gave me a bottle of champagne and the flag from the hole! How cool is that?

Posted: Wednesday, December 22, 2004
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golfmedic22 - Norco 
Cold & windy conditons but the course and staff made the day great. The greens were fast yet soft. The fairways were cut perfect and not so hard that your club could take nice divot. This place is in great shape now.

Posted: Wednesday, December 1, 2004
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kendall - walnut 
as all have reported this is a great track, greens and all the rest of the course are in wonderful shape, we had no wind and had a very fun day. dont wait to play here.

Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004
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callykid - corona 
Guys, played yesterday here again and I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but this place is pretty much perfect. How can this course NOT be No.1 in the Top 25?? I don't get it. Oak Valley is nice, but the Legends greens are in MUCH better shape. These greens are hard, fast and pure. Oak Valley has nice greens but not like here. Later in the month the PGA Tour will have 2nd stage Q-School at Oak Valley and I STILL think that the Legends greens will be nicer than over there. The only thing about the SCPGA Courses that I can gripe about is what flyboy1 said...It's getting way too expensive. Internet specials should be just that-special. Well, I've seen the price go from the mid 50's to almost 80 bucks a round on the weekend. Unbelievable. It's pricey, but I'll be back again. And looking forward to it.

Posted: Sunday, November 7, 2004
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callykid - corona 
played here the morning of Oct. 30. All I can say is WOW!! This course is green, lush, and SWEET! I've probably played here about 40 times and I have NEVER seen the course in this good of shape. This course is in better shape than many private courses right now. The greens are tight and FAST. Not a brown blade of grass anywhere. The rough, though not too penal, is cut evenly and is very uniform. There is one hole, hole #7 that had suffered from too much rain. The rough on the right side of the hole is a mixed with mud but it's not bad considering how much rain fell last week. The bunkers are all excellent with new sand and raked to a uniform thickness. The Champions Tour is having their Tour Qualifying here this week so that's why the course is in such great shape. If you want the best, PLAY HERE NOW. You won't be sorry. I realize it's a long drive for most SoCaler's, but you'll be rewarded 1000 times over. The words that come to mind are exquisite, pristine, perfect, lush, etc. I could go on and on so just get in your car, make the drive, and play here NOW!! Thanks SCPGA for a fantastic, super-conditioned golf course. Give that head greenskeeper a HUGE raise!!

Posted: Tuesday, November 2, 2004
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golfmedic22 - Norco 
Great course at a fair price. After the heavy rain, it drained well and left a little water in the sand traps. I thought it would be a swamp and it was not. Customer service was great, and pace of play was also good. $60.00 for a friday morning was well worth the drive. While others are still recovering from airation the Legends is in great shape.

Posted: Friday, October 22, 2004
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glenz2 - Riverside 
What a pleasure to play a course in great shape this time of year! Fairways were immaculate, greens were smooth med. fast and held shots. Some sand traps were puddled, but thats understandable, where they were dry they were perfect also! Course has quite a few blind shots that make for a challenge, but with 4 sets of tee's accomodates all! Big greens withsome sloping. Overall at $66 on a Fri. morning some may find a little to pricey, but for what they deliver a GREAT value!!! I need to play here more often!

Posted: Friday, October 22, 2004
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weber - coto de caza 
Played the day after the heavy rains, so the course was, as expected - soaked! Lots of waterin the bunkers, mud everywhere. but considering everything, the course held up very well. (You could tell it was in good shape before the rain)

Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2004
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golfingdude - Rancho Cucamonga 
The course was in fantastic condition. The greens were as fast and true as even the most demanding golfer could hope for. The Legends is definitely a tougher test of golf than Champions, even though both have very similar slope and rating. The price may be expensive, almost $90.00 on weekends without a discount, but they do know how to do things at this first rate public track. A must play facility, either course is quite exceptional.

Posted: Saturday, September 25, 2004
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ohpoh - LOS ANGELES 
THIS COURSE IS IN GREAT SHAPE. HAS A GREAT LAYOUT. WORTH THE DRIVE FROM LOS ANGELES

Posted: Thursday, August 26, 2004
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fungo - Yucaipa 
Great course very challenging greens and a supper atmosphere for golf.

Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
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golferdude - Fontana 
Great course to play! Course is in superb condition and the pace of play is around 3 1/2 to 4 hours. Greens run true and fairways and tee boxes are excellent. It's a combo of target golf and links style. Highly recommend this course to all, except first time golfers.

Posted: Wednesday, August 11, 2004
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enash - Moreno Valley 
I just played PGA Legends @ Oak Valley on Friday August 6th. An absolutely beautiful and challenging course. Greens, fairways and even tee box areas were impeccible.

Posted: Saturday, August 7, 2004
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marklkincaid - Santa Ana 
Played on 7/17/04 - a Saturday. Called our early due to no-show by earlier foursome. Played all day without a single player behind. Course was in great shape. Get on the e-mail club and play everyday at a discount. Great course.

Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2004
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daquila - Huntington Beach 
Played Legends last week. Sand traps were terrible. Top half were muddy, like they had filled in holes and did not rake them afterwords. Greens had been sanded. Ball rolled and rolled. No one said a word about the greens in club house. Huge pet peeve. Won't go back for awhile. Expected a lot more from one of best in So Cal. 9+ rating just went to 6.

Posted: Thursday, July 1, 2004
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snoogs20 - Los Angeles 
Finally made the drive. Worth the trip, although it did fall a little short of expectations. Greens were not very smooth, had numerous UNFIXED(jerks) ball marks, and were slow. Bunkers were very thin and hard. Being a first time player, I should've done more research since there are a few blind shots without the help of a scorecard map or GPS. Otherwise the rest of the course was great. Our threesome finished in 3 hours(3+3 driving=one round in LA), being held up only by the kid who took way too much time to turn off the sprinklers for us.

Posted: Monday, June 28, 2004
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Played at 740a on Sat, May15. What a round. Weather was terrific, and the course was in absolutely perfect condition. Greens were rolling fast and smooth, even with a little morning moisture. Fairways, tee boxes, etc, all in A-1 condition. What a value for the $68 internet fee. Get out here now and play before the houses go up...probably not a better overall facility in all of SoCal - especially for the price.

Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2004
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robertp - Irvine 
Always enjoyable and worth the drive to play this course. Overall conditions were terrific (tee boxes, fairways and greens) but most bunkers were sparse with little sand and gravel resulting in scratched clubs). Pace of play starting on a late weekday morning was good at around 4 hours.

Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2004
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mfbonazzola - portland, or 
brother and i played both champions and legends on 3/26. though champions seems to get the higher ratings we both much preferred the legends course--each hole unique, dramatic bunkering, very good (though a little slow) greens and beautifully conditioned fairways. $47 afternoon price is more than a bargain. only two criticisms: not enough sand in some of the bunkers and idea of a 473yd (blue tees) par four into the wind (albeit downhill) followed several holes later by a 462yd par 5 with the wind was a little strange. these are minor issues, however. the course is fantastic and i will try to play it again when i visit southern california.

Posted: Tuesday, March 30, 2004
Member Since: June 13, 2003
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waynegorski - Anaheim Hills 
challenging fun course to play.

Posted: Saturday, March 27, 2004
Member Since: April 23, 2003
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bg - Westlake Village 
Fantastic layout, great staff, conditions immaculate could not have been a better overall experience. Well worth the two plus hour drive for us to get there. Weekday afternoon fee of $47.00 is a joke vs. what we pay to play in Ventura Co. Only regret is this course is not closer to home.

Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2004
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CSpan - Pasadena 
Played the morning of 3/14/04. We arrived with an internet tee time, but were running a little behind, so we asked if we could push back our start just a bit. The staff was very accommodating - no questions asked. The range is immaculate, as is the practice bunker. With the recent rains, the scenery was terrific; lush hills and snow on the mountains. The course is in terrific shape, although the rough is a little high and the bunkers need more sand. The fairways generally are a little more closely mown than when we played, but that is a very minor complaint. Overall, the course is in tip top shape...plus, the all beef hot dog is one of the best around. Be sure to sign up for th