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I did something stupid last week. I was browsing "Deal" times on TeeOff.com and spotted a great $43 rate on a Hidden Valley single for today. Hidden Valley rarely offers "Deal" times for singles, typically restricting them to 2-4 players. I hadn't played there for a long time, and I had $30 in GolfNow rewards expiring soon, so I quickly booked the time. Then as soon as I booked it, it hit me – "Oh no, I didn't check GK!"

Sure enough, they had just aerated a day or two earlier. D'oh! At least it would be about 10 days after the aeration. I considered canceling, but I wasn't sure if I'd get my rewards back, so I just rolled with it. (And ironically, I putted great with only 28 putts. Maybe I should start using GK to find recently aerated courses to play. ;-))

Anyway, onto today. Tee time was 12:30 but for some reason the starter had me down for 12:40. Paired with two nice singles and one guy's wife rode with him but didn't play. Beautiful day but sorta hazy. POP was decent at just a few minutes more than 4:30.

Conditions-wise, things are quite good other than the greens. Driving in, the course looked gorgeous. Fairways and rough are very green and lush, although once you get on top of things, there are some problem spots here and there. To the course's credit, they've done a good job of marking areas as GUR. The greens were slow and bumpy but like I said earlier, they didn't give me many problems. They still need a couple weeks before getting partway back to normal. (The greens on the course were thankfully much better than the practice green, where putts practically had rooster tails of sand flying up.) Many bunkers look all dried out but the one I was in was acceptable. Blue tee boxes were fine.

I hadn't played here since 2016 and I have no idea why I've waited so long. It's such a fun, exciting layout and almost every hole is beautiful and interesting. I can't recommend it right now but give the greens a couple more weeks to heal, and then it's highly recommended.

(FYI for ratings purposes, I gave the greens a 5.)
9 Likes.
Played here today in group 1B of the 11:00 Golf Moose + GK outing. Absolutely gorgeous day! It didn't feel like we waited all that much but POP was almost 5 hours, but understandable because the entire front nine was CPO as well as one hole on the back.

Conditions are quite good. Greens are mostly smooth, fast, and more firm than soft, although full shots still stopped quickly. The collars look like dirt from afar but they were actually mostly dormant bermuda that rolled very fast and firm. Fairways were green and in good condition, providing nice lies all day. The rough was also in good condition and wasn't too deep except for behind the 18th green. Green tee boxes were good. I think the only bunkers I was in were fairway bunkers and they were nice with not too soft or deep of sand. Some areas were still a bit wet/muddy from all the recent rains, causing the CPO.

This was my first time here. This course keeps you engaged with lots of elevation changes. Very few parallel holes, and OB/penalty areas come into play on many holes. It reminded me most of Coyote Hills but also had shades of Pelican Hill on some of the holes with wider fairways. (The back-to-back par 5s on the back nine come to mind.) Very nice clubhouse with stellar views of the surrounding rolling hills, and a few holes offer views all the way out to the ocean. Very fun course and a great day!
9 Likes.
Played here today in the GK/Golf Moose outing in group 1A with Mark, Marc, and Gary. (Easiest playing partner names to remember ever for Gary today – three Marks!) Pace was good and despite some rain on the last few holes, it was just a bit over 4.5 hours.

Conditions are pretty good for a course that doesn't overseed in winter, but not quite as nice as last July's outing. Greens are very nice, smooth, medium-fast, and quite firm, although full shots and chips with lots of spin would still bite. Fairways are dormant bermuda with green colorant, providing mostly good lies for full shots but tight lies for chips short of the greens. Rough is dormant bermuda a couple inches deep, not too penal and sometimes almost preferred to the tight lies of the fairways. Blue tee boxes were all nice. Bunkers were fantastic and I had my best bunker playing round in years using Johnny's demo set of Vivid wedges. (Gotta get me one of those 56s.)

Dreary skies never really let the course come to life visually today, but we still had a good time. Thanks Johnny and Golf Moose for these awesome opportunities to play some very nice courses!
10 Likes.
Played here today with some friends with a 10:30 start time. The whole course is cart path only due to the rains, which slowed the pace to about 5 hours. Played Oaks/Creek, and I believe Stonehouse was closed due to being too wet. We got rained on at least five times for 5-10 minutes each time. We also got a few periods of bright sunlight (including an amazing rainbow), but mostly cloudy skies for the day.

Regarding conditions, I didn't rate the course because it seemed the fairways and tees maybe weren't able to be mowed, and bunkers were a bit messy, all due to the course being so wet. That said, give this place some time to dry out and it's gonna be amazing! I don't think I've ever seen the fairways as green and lush as they are right now. Greens were really nice, medium-fast, smooth, and accepting of full shots. Rough was thick and penal, putting a premium on hitting the fairways. As I said, bunkers seemed like they could use some raking but had plentiful sand. Tee boxes were decent with some of the par 3s having lots of divots, which seemed worse when the grass that exists is wet and slippery.

Definitely recommended if we get a few days of sunshine/warm temps to dry things up.
11 Likes.
Played here today with a 10:53 TeeOff.com "Deal" time. Started a little late (10th tee start today for some reason) and waited almost all day, but POP was good at a little under 4 hours.

Conditions are quite good! Greens are really nice, rolling smooth, medium fast, and very accepting of full shots. I found some unfixed ball marks but otherwise they're in really nice shape. Fairways are also nice, with good coverage of lush green grass providing a good cushion under the ball. There are some divots and spots here and there you'll hope to avoid, but for the most part, fairways are good. The rough is also quite lush but not very penal, around 3 inches deep. Blue tee boxes are probably the low point, especially the par 3s which have tons of divots. I wasn't in any bunkers but they looked pretty good, although there seemed to be lots of pebbles/clumps in them. Overall, the course didn't really show any issues from all the recent rains.

I didn't hear the full story, but apparently the Legends course did sustain damage from the storm and only has six holes open right now as a result.
10 Likes.
Played here today in group 1B of the GK/GolfMoose outing. Event start time was 10:00 but carts weren't dispatched to the shotgun start until after 10:00, and as group B, we probably didn't tee off until around 10:20. Pace was slow, probably close to five and a half hours, but it was a gorgeous, sunny day that felt like summer, so no big deal. Fun times with Johnny, Ron, and Mark6M.

Conditions are excellent. Greens are smooth, very accepting of full shots, and medium-fast. Sidehillers present the biggest danger because they can start turning downhill and get away from you quickly. Fairways have good coverage and provided good lies, although some fairways seemed to have an abundance of divots. Rough was beautifully lush and semi-penal at about 3 inches deep. Bunkers I was in were mostly good; well maintained but perhaps a little thin on sand. White tee boxes were good.

I love any opportunity to play this outstanding course and greatly appreciate Johnny and Golf Moose setting up these events! Fun times.
11 Likes.
Played here today with a 12:24 "Deal" time from TeeOff.com. Got an amazing price after promo code one day prior. Checked in early and the starter said he could get me started early, but then he disappeared (never saw him again) and then ended up starting about 5 minutes late, paired with another single and behind an extremely slow foursome. Luckily that foursome waved us through on the second tee and we finished right before dark with a total POP of a little over 4.5 hours.

Conditions are mixed. The course looks fantastic, with lush overseeded rye rough giving an overall "green" appearance. Fairways are dormant and provide lots of run-out, although on many holes, the dormant grass transitions to lush grass about 50 yards short of the green. It reminds me of the conditioning sometimes at Rustic Canyon. The dormant parts of the fairway are pretty thin and even have some dirt patches. The rough is probably the best conditioned part of the course, ranging from about 3 inches deep to some nastier stuff around bunkers and farther offline. The greens were a little weird. They're not in bad condition, but they're a bit wobbly. I'm wondering if it's that they haven't been able to properly mow them short since the rains earlier this week. They are soft, accepting of full shots, and around medium speed. Some greens also have some imperfections. I suspect the greens will be a bit better after a few more days of no rain. Tee boxes were mostly good but one or two were overgrown a bit. The bunkers I was in were great, although players could have raked them a little better. The fairway bunker on the left side of the par-4 6th currently seems to be under construction. It seems like they've put down a new liner but haven't added any sand yet. A couple holes were CPO, but not a huge deal.

Today's partly cloudy weather made everything really beautiful and provided even more dramatic views than normal at this beautiful layout. Had a great time and got a steal of a deal. If I'd paid their sky-high rack rates, it would be a little different story.
9 Likes.
I recently joined the PMGA (Pendleton Memorial Golf Association) because it's currently the only way for civilians to access this course. (The base visitor's center was damaged in early 2023 storms, making it more difficult/impossible to get a pass.) Played today in a small PMGA Shamble event, teeing off in the last group around 9:00. Slow pace; almost five hours to finish. Partly cloudy skies, cool air, and the wind picked up a little bit on our back nine. We started on 10 today.

Sad to say conditions are mediocre. Many greens have small bare spots and thin spots as well as splotchy appearance with different colors of grass. They roll around medium speed with some bouncy putts. They were pretty soft and full shots stopped quickly. Fairways have mostly good coverage of semi-dormant grass, providing decent lies. The 12th fairway was very thin, however. Rough was a mix of different grasses and some bare spots. White tee boxes were decent. I didn't play from any bunkers but my playing partners did and they all seemed quite nice. Overall, it's playable but wintry and the greens are disappointing compared to all my previous visits here. (I haven't played here since Spring 2022, IIRC.)

Heard that all prices are increasing five percent next month. Still a good value, but hopefully conditions return more to what I expect from this course.
10 Likes.
Played here today in group 1B of the GolfMoose/GK outing, paired with Gary, Steve, and Johnny. Fun group as always. Gorgeous winter day with blue skies, medium wind, and mostly comfortable temps. POP was great for these events, a little under 4.5 hours with minimal waiting.

Conditions are very nice. Greens are mostly smooth, around medium speed, and accept full shots well. Uphill putts were slower than downhill putts were fast, if that makes sense. Fairways were excellent with consistent coverage, providing good lies. There's short rough that isn't too penal and then there are areas of really deep stuff that is almost for sure a lost ball. Both are in good condition. Gold (blue equivalent) tee boxes are well defined and in great condition. Bunkers were in decent condition but could be better if the the priority for sand was reversed – I was in a greenside bunker that could've used much more sand and a fairway bunker that had way too much sand.

This was my second time playing here, and the previous time was probably 15-20 years ago when it was known as SeaCliff CC. I don't remember a ton from that time, but I do recognize a huge effort to enhance course conditions and beauty. It's more memorable and impressive now than it was then. The layout won't really "wow" you but it's solid throughout. Thanks to Johnny for organizing these events!
10 Likes.
Played here today with a 10:50 TeeOff.com "Deal" time for about $57 after promo code. Check in was smooth and friendly. They said I'd be paired with a threesome but a fivesome of what I assume were members headed to the tee a few minutes before 10:50. Then a minute or two later, my threesome showed up, so we played behind a fivesome all day. Let a single through on No. 4 and he was able to play through the fivesome. Overall POP was around five hours. Beautiful day with chilly air and decent breezes.

Conditions are good, highlighted by really fast, fun greens. They are smooth, fast, and accept full shots really well. A few greens were over-the-top fast. On the 14th hole, I hit a shot from the front bunker to the back of the green. Then after I'd exited the bunker, I looked up and my ball rolled back about 25 feet down the slope toward the hole. Then on the next hole, I left my birdie putt from about 25 feet about two inches short, but it didn't stop at the hole and rolled back a good 15 feet. It was funny in the moment but would've been frustrating and too extreme if you're taking your game really seriously. Finally, on the next hole, I hit a good chip that took a break above the hole and came to rest about four feet above the hole. Then as I was walking to the green, suddenly my ball starting rolling again and went in the hole for a chip-in birdie! So you get the picture... greens are crazy fast in spots. And maybe more thought needs to go into where holes are cut. Fairways have good coverage but a mix of grasses, providing mostly good lies. The par-4 12th hole was mostly CPO and it seems they're having a hard time growing grass well on the low-lying portions of that fairway. Rough varied from just a little longer than the fairways to some that was about 4-6 inches deep. Blue tee boxes were good, not great. All the bunkers I was in (two greenside, one fairway) were really nice.

This was my first time here. The course was more interesting than I expected, although I didn't love it. It's solid. It reminded me of a nicer, full-grown Jurupa Hills in spots. The first hole is a little funky, a dogleg left par 4 with water on the left and trees blocking anything left, so it almost forces a draw for the right-handed player right out of the gate. Three of the four par 3s played almost the exact same yardage (195-205), which gets a little repetitive. The course looked great in today's bright sunlight and a few holes on the back nine provide some cool views of Riverside. Recommended at deal prices and a nice addition to the IE golf scene. Nice carts. No beverage cart.
11 Likes.
Played here today in group 1B of the GolfMoose/GK private club outing with Johnny, Gary, and Steve. Fun times! 11:00 shotgun but as the B group, we didn't tee off until around 11:15. POP was slow with waiting on all tees, including backups on par 3s. Total time on course was around 5:10. Mostly overcast skies but no wind and perfect temps all day. It sprinkled for about 10 minutes on our 9th hole.

Conditions are good, highlighted by speedy greens that are fun and challenging to putt. I'm thinking there's some grain or a certain direction that we never quite picked up on, because some putts were lightning fast and broke a lot, and others weren't quite as fast and didn't break much when they seemed like they would. Greens were firm but accepted full shots well and most wedge approaches spun back considerably. There was a little visual evidence of recent aeration and a tiny bit amount of sand on the greens, but I don't think either of those impacted putts at all. Fairways had good coverage but didn't always provide great lies. Rough wasn't too deep but enough to take spin off the ball and make you think. Blue tee boxes were mostly good. I was in a couple bunkers and they seemed pretty good. (My bunker play is so pathetic right now I have no business trying to blame the bunker for my results.)

This was my first time playing here. It's a solid, tough course but doesn't have too much "wow" factor. It probably didn't help that the sun was behind the clouds most of the day. It reminded me a bit of a "grown up" version of Candlewood CC. It had two fun downhill par 3s, but an abundance of par 4s in the same 390-410 yard range. Only 3 par 3s and 3 par 5s. Snack bar/restaurant staff was friendly, and my pre-round hot dog was extremely delicious. Fun day! Huge thanks to Johnny for everything!
4 Likes.
Played here today with an 11:50 TeeOff.com "Deal" time for $32 after promo code. Great deal! Despite needing to shuffle some groups around, check-in and start went smooth. Teed off pretty much right on time, paired with a threesome of nice guys. We had two twosomes in front of us and a walking (never seen walkers at CrossCreek before) threesome right on our tail all day. We had minimal waits on the group in front but overall POP was good at about 4:15. Gorgeous day with some wind to contend with.

Course is in really nice condition. The greens are great, mostly smooth, medium-fast to fast, and extremely accepting of full shots. Chips, however, or shots without much spin, tend to run out quite a bit. The 17th green was bumpier and slower than the others. Fairways were really nice, cut short and providing good lies. The rough is also in good shape. It wasn't too deep but can get tangly in spots. I was only in one bunker and it was in good condition. Blue tee boxes were a little beat up, but nothing too bad. Some low-lying spots around the course seemed surprisingly wet.

Definitely recommended!

P.S. The previous review mentioned old carts in "barely passable" condition. They must've gotten new ones in the last month or so because mine was gorgeous and a new style I've never seen before anywhere. Still had the same text-only GPS, though, that they've had here in the past.
8 Likes.
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