I wanted to check out TPC Valencia, so I went and played as a single at 5pm on a late Sunday afternoon. With daylight savings I finished with no problem. The problem was the green fee was $100 at 5pm on Sunday night! I don't care what track you play, if you're charging $100 for super twilight on an early Sunday evening, it's too much. I know, I know, they're trying to keep the 'riff-raff' out. Well trust me, I'm no slouch and $100 at that time is borderline absurd. Trust me TPC Valencia is not going that good. Anyway, the track isn't that bad, but it's not that good either. I would never pay the buck sixty they want for primetime...no way! And I would never, and I mean never, buy a membership. Not with Robinson, Angeles National, or some other better, more reasonably priced tracks around. They do have a sweet clubhouse and awesome practice facility. But they have priced this "riff raff' out. Good job TPC!!

I recently played Angeles National, and all I can say is what a treat it was! The golf course is amazing. I don't know if you can find this type of course so close to the LA area without driving 60+ miles. It has a very scenic backdrop and has a very desert feel. I did play the black tees and it was certainly a challenge. It measured close to 7200 yards and made you hit every club in your bag. It is visually intimidating off the tee box, however, when you reach fairways and greens, it is very fair and there is plenty of room to miss. You can score, but you will be challenged. As far as course conditions, they were impeccable. The tee boxes and fairways are lush. The greens are firm because the new, and are obviously quick, and are very true. The course is relatively flat, not hilly, and no awkward lies. There is no clubhouse yet, but the temporary setup is clean and first class. The staff was very helpful, and the cart service on the course was good. Overall, a wonderful golf experience, and I will tell my friends, and I will be back to Angeles National!