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Went out Yesterday 4/4 using club corp $26 and tee'd off an hour earlier than my tee time of 10. Course was moderately busy with groups of 3-4 going out every 15 minuets. I joined up with two guys names John (easy to remember). We zipped around the first 5 holes then caught up to a foursome who ended up letting us pass on the back nine. We played the Black/ combos and it was the perfect length for me.

Course was in fantastic shape today as expected for spring in AZ being the peak time of the year. Fairways were lush almost carpet like throughout the day and cut short to allow roll for days. Greens were almost perfect, they were smooth and very fast all day which was consistent to the practice green. The only reason they didn't get a perfect score was 2 false edges had some growth issues and I found both of them. Rough can only be described by one work "diabolical" It was 3 inches thick and very penal. I had issues on the 600 yard up hill Par 5 13th, It took me an extra 2 strokes to make perfect contact to get out of it. I sure found a lot of rough yesterday and it kicked my a#$. Tee boxes were a little chewed up and should be moved around but it wasn't anything to be mad at. The only thing that disappointed me was the sand traps they were all wet and firm. They need a lot of TLC.

Overall I really enjoyed this course and with the well placed tree's and narrow fairways Accuracy off the tee is a must. Also the greens were very tough to play with lots of false edges and multiple tiers to manage, mix with with speed approaching 12-13 on the stimp made for a fun day. I will be back to play on my trips to AZ as it was a fun track.
3 Likes.
I was visiting the in-laws in Maricopa and made the short drive to Casa Grande to play Francisco Grande. Rate was $34 plus a little extra for range balls. The course and resort has a lot of history but the surrounding area is nothing to get excited about.
The grass on the driving range was great but you are hitting into dirt range with ample targets.
The course is long for sure with lots of tall trees throughout. It’s a fun mix of holes through the rounds.
The fairways were in mostly good shape but on the dry side. Some landing areas were hard as a rock. The greens were in great shape save for a few with bare and/or damaged areas. They were firm and that needed to be taken into account. Bunkers were in decent shape but on the crusty side.
I enjoyed playing but not sure it’s a destination course. For the price and conditions you can’t beat Francisco Grande in its current conditions.
5 Likes.
Greens were recently verti-cut. I’d guess they need at least three more weeks to heal. This was some aggressive trenching! As a result, putting parallel to the cuts would often see the balls fall within these tracks and stay there—like the ball was on a rail. Putting perpendicular to the cuts, would see the ball bounce up and down like it was going over little curbs. (It was.). The course layout is great. Course conditioning is fair/average. Layout is really fun. Pace of play was excellent because most golfers were on the Lakes course (where greens had not been verti-cut).
8 Likes.
The lakes course is in much better shape than the Desert course. Both courses are terrific layouts. But the desert’s greens are in rough shape. Both courses are also very rough around the edges—weeds, patches of dead grass, bunkers without much sand, tee boxes are not level. The conditioning doesn’t match the outstanding layout. But i suppose the price reflects that. The lakes course also has a lot of trees, which is fairly unique for desert golf. because the greens are in bad shape in the desert course, the lakes course is getting a disproportionate amount of play.
8 Likes.
I got out to Encanto in the afternoon with a 2:30 tee time. Rate was $45 with cart. The course wasn’t full but a number of players out. They have taken protective measures in the clubhouse and on the course. A plexiglass window separates you from the pro shop attendant. No sand bottles on the carts, no rakes in the bunkers and the holes all had foam inside to keep you from reaching all the way into the cup.
I was paired up with two walkers and pace was good all round. Didn’t have to wait besides the group in front of us waiting for players to clear the green before teeing off on a few holes.
Conditions were fair throughout. The fairways had good grass coverage with few bare spots. Anything off the fairway was a crap shoot. No rough to speak of but lots of weeds, dirt and bare spots. The greens were all consistent and putted well during the round. Bunkers were good with plenty of sand.
As I’ve reviewed before, the course isn’t overly challenging with plenty of chances to score but some holes will sneak up on you. Right now, Encanto is a good place for a fun and stress free round.
6 Likes.
Played 4/1, 8:50 tee time, 2 some, 3 1/2 hrs. Course in front of us moved pretty fast. Course behind us looked busy. Course looks like no one is taking care of it. Fairways are shaggy. rough not mowed. In decent shape otherwise. Greens slow, like a fast 9slow 10, mostly true. $33 to walk seemed high for the conditions on a weekday. But given the available choices, beggars can't be choosers. Range open. Pro shop open to one at a time. I saw them power washing every single cart for 5 min each. Cups installed upside down so that only half the ball is below the cup when holed (which makes holing out harder). Had a decent time, but wish it was in better shape.
8 Likes.
Heard good things but never had a chance to play here yet. Woke up early one morning with the golf itch and no work. I saw there was a 6:30 tee time and decided it was 500 club day.

Showed up 15 minutes early and there's was no one in front or behind of me and the starter let me go as a single. I believe 1 group was ahead of me who went at first light. I really really enjoyed the course. Granted half of the course is flat and on the back nine a few holes run along each other. However, there is not a house in site. You really feel like you are secluded and away even on this course. In fact half of the course runs along a preserve and offers a nice sense of isolation on a few holes.

The greens were the best part. Near perfect just ran medium speed, and had some minor divot damage. Rolled very true. The bunkers were fine, could use a little more sand but nothing bad. The fairways and tee boxes were nice and lush. Minor damage in the rough and divots in the fairways. A lot of hard pan and dried out grass beyond the fairways. Good conditions just not lush and pure.

I like what they did with the course. It has some funny elements to it. The island green short par 4 is out of place but a really fun hole. The church pew bunker on 18 is a funny touch as well. The few mountain holes are superb and I enjoyed the subtle dog legs and sand hazards that would run across a few of the par fours. The course has a lot of soul to it. While not on the level of a Scottsdale desert track, it's a definite step up from the boring 70s tracks scattered all over town. I really enjoyed the layout and will be back.
10 Likes.
The prices dropped earlier here and I was able to snag a 6:30 am tee time Sunday here for $59. This place is pure right now. The course is on the same level as any premier course in Scottsdale. I consider it the older brother of Legends Trail but still younger to Quintero. The shots and lines you have to select require immense strategy and is a true thinking man's course.

Looking back and photos and even thinking back I can't remember any issues with the course. The only things holding it back from 10s were the bunkers and the tee boxes. The greens, fairways, rough were perfect. Greens were a sneaky medium fast especially on downhill putts.

The tee boxes did have divots and were slightly uneven lumpy on some. The bunkers were consistent but a very very thick course sand. Much too thick for a course like this IMO.

I'm been twice in the last week and looking to go again. Course is 40 minutes out of town but worth the drive right now for the conditions.
7 Likes.
Prices have begun to drop here from the winter highs. I went out and walked at 3:00 for $55 through their website. I really do love the North side.

The course is in awesome shape. Tee boxes were perfectly level, minimal divots, nice and lush. Fairways and around the green are lush and perfect. Bunkers were perfect. They use a lighter finer sand here. Nice and fluffy. Always consistent shot.

Only demerits were the greens show some time of prep work on the edges. The greens were a tad dried out and had some dried out ballmarks. Were slightly dinged up. A few had some small needle like holes around them. Also red spray paint marking around some of the greens. The rough and natural shrub in front of a lot of tee boxes and some of the natural hazard had been given a buzz and didn't look the most natural.

Mostly some cosmetic things but really nice conditions right now and weather for a nice walk at Talking Stick N.
5 Likes.
Played today with Alex326 for our GK Cup 15 match. It was nice to find a golf course open and Alex got us a 10:00 for $25 riding, so that's a big plus. This is really a big parkland style layout and it would be difficult to actually lose a ball OB. There were many large trees lining most fairways. Very lush conditions throughout. The grass in the rough was so thick and sticky, it could grab your club and make it difficult if you weren't able to hit clean, ball first contact.

Greens were medium slow, but they rolled true and has no discernible bumpiness. Sometimes, the downhill putts toward the river could get away, but uphill putts needed a firm stroke. They were also somewhat soft and I fixed many a ball mark, most of which were made by the groups ahead of us. Covid19 protocol called for a round piece of foam at the bottom of the cups to prevent balls from going all the way to the bottom. No flag sticks were touched.

Fairways and rough were very similar. Lots of variety of grasses growing all over the fairways and rough; some of it was clumpy and having a good lie was almost a matter of luck. The fairways could be cut more and the rough was pretty thick if only 1"-2" in height.

Tees were mostly level and finding a good place to hit from was easy. We played the white tees, but the difference was minimal and more often than not were were just forward of the blues by a couple steps.

Bunkers were okay to look at, but hitting from them was iffy. They had some soft sand in a thin layer over some well packed hard pan. I think we both had difficulty at times. No rakes; again, Covid19 protocol. Hopefully most folks who enter the bunker would smooth their footprints and divots with their feet, but that was not always the case. We smoothed out ours and we never landed in someone else's footprint.

Overall, I liked the course. It's right off the Kern River at the foothills of the Sierra. There is a campground nearby and the river looks really full now. I think the campground is closed due to this Covid19 hysteria anyway. The green fee we paid was as good as you get for a full length course riding. Definitely, you could walk. There are a couple of lengthy par 3's of over 200 yards. That was challenging. It's lush now, but I don't know what summer will do. I did see there were others from Southern California here, so if you are in the north part of LA County, then it's doable for a day trip.
7 Likes.
Rode the Blues (6550/71.8/131) as a single in less than 3H mid morning on a GN "Hot" deal. The weather was around 65, sunny and fairly calm.

COVID-19 conditions throughtout, so no services offered. Probably the best I have ever seen Avila look.

The tees were all over the place. Some were terrible, others almost pristine but many were unlevel.

The fairways had good coverage and were semi lush.

The rough was mostly thick and clumpy.

The traps need an overhaul. Everyone I saw was raked, but there is little sand and what is there is not good quality.

The greens putted nicely. Firm and medium fast, they rolled well.

The tree lined layout is up/down rolling hills and sits down in a valley. No ocean views even though you are less than a mile from and can hear the ocean. Lots of trees and hazards to avoid. Decent amount of doglegs, plus you need to know where to aim off a hill to get your ball to end up where you want on many holes. Average layout in mediocre playing condition, but it's a fun layout to play. Small warm-up range with mats that would accomodate short irons only beside the first tee. Rough around the edges, but recommended.
7 Likes.
I must confess I feel very guilty about writing this review, given the circumstances we are all living with. Coto is open, but with severe restrictions. No tee markers, no rakes, no pins, no ball washers, no drinking water, certainly no carts, and strictly enforced social distancing.

Very few players, mostly I believe because it is walking only, coupled with no flag sticks. However after a few times, you pretty much know where the holes will be, and since I always walk, the no carts has no impact for me.

As expected, course is in pristine condition, with such limited play and no cart traffic. The North will be closed effective 4/5/20 for three weeks for scheduled maintenance, but the South will reopen on 4/7/20. (Those greens were punched two weeks ago)

I cherish every round, because I never know if/when they will close down. However being all by myself, and the only items I touch are my own clubs, tees, and ball. Can not imagine anything safer than playing golf under this conditions. Heck of a lot safer than going to Ralphs, Lowes, Costco, getting gas or even take out food. Plus the mental benefit and physical benefit are immeasurable.
12 Likes.
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