Played on Thursday, 6/26/03. Course was in good condition. Greens were medium speed and relatively true. Played the blue tee markers which were put where they are supposed to be (not moved up like sometimes happens on the weekends).

Teed off at almost 4 PM. Finished 16 holes, although the last one was pretty dark. Speed was average.

This course has a number of doglegs so, even with the relatively wide fairways, shot placement is important. There are not a lot of traps. Only a few come into play on drives.

Some greens are small so good chipping is important for most players. The course is long and so is much easier for a long hitter.

For a public course, this is a good test of golf. Plays similarly to Rancho (which I haven't played since the 1970s).

My only complaints are a few areas with extensive gopher holes as well as the rough. I lost a ball on 10 which appeared from the tee to be in the right side of the fairway. It apparently went down a gopher hole. The rough is short enough that it doesn't have a major effect on shots from it, but balls can be much harder to spot. All it does is slow down play. I had several shots I couldn't find without help from playing partners. The trees make the holes tough but fair without the rough. The rough only slows down play.