I played on 11-3-07 and on 11-17-07 and I must say that the course is in terrible shape. The tee boxes are full of mud if not, grass is depleted with divots. 2 holes in Pine course are temporary, so you are basically putting on a fairway grass. Very bad condition, the pace is too slow, a lot of amateur players taking 2-3 shots with their drivers on the tee box just to hit the faiway, you dont start or your designated tee time, etc. It took me 5 hours to finish the course. I will not play here again.