The greens are the quiuckest I have played in the LA area and they are extremely smooth. The course was just finishing the overseeding so no carts were allowed on the fairways. Very nice setup, challenging for the lenght. Lots of environmental areas, so there were lots of lost balls. I thought the price is a bit high though, (and it does not include range balls)considering there are other courses of the same cailber for less.