This course was simply not much fun. Admittedly, it has a very difficult slope of 145 from the tips, and 137 from the blue.. so I expected a challenge. That said, the fairways were absolutely terrible, muddy + damaged (even though we haven't had any rain to speak of in weeks), the bunkers were like hard-pan clay, and the few yardage markers completely innacurate... That wouldn't have been such a problem if the advertised GPS carts actually existed.. but as of 5 days ago, the fleet has been replaced with non-GPS carts, and the sprinkler heads hadn't been marked!
So perhaps a discount?? Not a chance, try 10 bucks more for holiday rates.

As for the course layout - it tries to make up for the poor design with a couple of fun highly elevated tees (200+ feet), but even those generally found a way to disappoint me. After crushing a 300+ drive from an elevated tee to the absolute dead-center of the fairway - I was rewarded with a 20 degree downward lie to the hole. I don't mind being punished for innaccuracy off the tee - but that's a bit sadistic for my taste.

Bottom-line, there are plenty of beautifully designed, challenging layouts like Desert Dunes, Lost Canyons, and Angeles National that are worth the price of admission. Hidden Valley is just an imposter.

Played this course recently in perfect Fall desert conditions. The greens were extremely true but challenging. Beautiful natural desert vegetation with no tract homes or developments in sight. Nothing easy about the layout, with significant undulations and links style pit bunkers. Highly enjoyable, engaging round of golf! Definitely a hidden gem worth even the high season weekend fees - but truly a bargain for twilight or off-season rates.