AH..Yucaipa Valley... home of the five and half hour round. Great layout... but the management stinks.. groups go out every six minutes.. usually the starter is confused or absent. slow play abounds. Tee times are usually half hour + behind. But within the last two to three weeks.. weekdays are as bad as weekends, and the course is in the worst shape I have ever seen it. Dry, bare spots, pocked marked greens.. broken rakes. But the slow play really makes it not worthwhile. Maybe if you have a coupon it is worth it.. but full price... even weekday rates.. save your money.. play elsewhere. It is shame such a nice course has gone to seed. I have played there weekly for years.. but must move on to better kept.. and managed courses.

This is my home course. I play it regularly and have for years. It is a great value, particularly for weekday, twilight and internet specials. State of the art GPS on all the carts is a nifty plus that seems to help my iron play. It is a great layout, and with exception of the poa annua intrusion into the bentgrass greens, usually is pretty good shape for a muni-track. HOWEVER, the customer service stinks and has been getting progressively worse. Earlier this week I called to ask if the range was hitting from mats or grass- and was hold for the pro shop girl to inquire as to the difference from others. The primary problem is slow play and the lack of marshals. the marshall was on the first tee telling jokes yesterday.. but seven holes out stuck behind three hackers with an hole and half open in front of them... no marshall to be seen. When marshals are seen.. they will comment on everything other than slow play. Yesterday we skipped a par three to cut in front of the beer guzzling hackers.. and the course was very lightly played.. only a few groups.. we still had a four hour and forty-minute round for seventeen holes. There was another slow group in front of the hackers.. and of course, when we asked them if we could play through.. no one spoke english. This course, at least on weekends.. starts at least 20 minutes behind every tee-time I make.. and takes well over four and half hours to play. No one who works there seems to care anymore... it's great course.. but please people!

Have played "The Old Course" regularly for years - but I have been away for at least eight to ten months. I was disappointed to see that the course was just not as crisp as it usually is. It has been a solid course for the money- nothing spectacular design wise- but well kept for the green fee. This morning we found the fairways patchy with different types or lengths of grass, as if there had been no overseeding. The greens were bumpy and had either not been cut, or at least not rolled recently. The rough was not longer grass- more weedy or non-existent- fairway gives way to dirt in some areas. The course was fun and playable.. but for the $47 weekend morning rate... there are several other nearby courses that offer alot more for a little extra money.