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Greens have healed. They roll fairly true with few bumps. Noticed that playing in the afternoon versus morning is completely different for greens here. In the morning they roll pretty quick, true and hit firm. Towards the afternoon the POA blooms and makes putts a lot more bouncy and roll with medium speed.

Tee boxes good.

Bunkers a good portion of them have sand a few still don't and have this thin layer of sand.... thinking of hole 9 right side bunker. Rest of bunkers for the most part had decent sand. Hole 4's fairway bunker has new sand just nobody really rakes it.

Rough is mixed bag; cut short to super think and clingy.

Tee boxes for most part are flatish. There are a good many bare spots but that doesn't happen until Hole 5.

Pace of play was slow for Saturday mid-morning.
7 Likes.
Home of the thin lies. It won't disappoint.

Greens have recovered. Still very bumpy in the afternoon sun. Tricky to hold the line on putts. You definitely have to strike the putt solid to get through the bounciness. Greens rolled to slow/medium speed. Fairways for the most part a mix of thin lies, thinner lies and some decent lies. I honestly aim for the green spots and hope for the best. Bunkers are thin as well. Tee boxes are flatish. Just have to hunt around the tee markers to find a flat spot.

Pace of Play was a quick 3.5 hours. Not bad but the conditions are at best mediocre. I often wonder why I play here and then I finish a round that quick and I am reminded why I play here.
10 Likes.
Played Monday.

Greens have healed but very bumpy. They look slow but roll to medium speed. Greens are inconsistent from green to green so beware. Fairways have decent cushion and coverage. Rough is mix of fairway height to deep rough. What you roll into is what you get. Tee boxes are flatish with some bare spots. Bunkers are a mess. Pace of play is OK.

FYI they pushed back twilight to after 4. Suits me fine because it's not busy at 3 but you do have to pay full boat.
8 Likes.
Played last Saturday with Itslikeimsayin for our GK Cup Match. Lost 3 and 2, but that is another story. Let me put it this way, I make a birdie on the second hole only to have Itslikeimsayin make his own birdie -- apparently unrattled by mine. LOL. And that was how the round went :D

Greens even with the evidence of aeration a week or more past rolled rather well. Sometimes a little bumpy. Sometimes you could see the marks from aeration but they really didn't affect the ball movement much. Green speed was medium to fast. Fairways were a mix of thin lies to nice lies. Rough as I remember was a mixed bag. One hole I aimed down the right side hoping to catch a downhill run towards the hole but was caught in a burrowed animal's hole UNDER a tree. Go figure.

Pace of play was fast even with the heat. Not properly dressed for the heat was the key. Drink loads of liquids. Saw the cart gal twice.

For the conditions and the amount of play, I was impressed. Surprised this course is very busy and for the amount of play I would say the conditions are better than I expected but because of the area you would expect superior conditions. Course bones I thought were pretty decent. It's a good mix of narrow holes and holes you could spray the ball and be OK.

My thoughts are personally mixed. Being my first time playing here I like what I saw, just wished conditions were a bit better with fewer thin lies.
11 Likes.
Well of course I didn't bother to check the aeration schedule here on GK and what am I rewarded? They aerate the first 4 greens not with sand but literally it looked and played like a bunker instead of a green.

Note to self AWLAYS Check GK for the latest aeration alerts. No other place has it and it's a quick, easy check.

Not complaining -- ok perhaps just a little. But if you have enough sand to be able to draw designs in the sand on the GREEN, well I would say there was a little too much sand.

Sanded greens were for the most part slow. Unaerated greens were in pretty decent shape. They rolled well with a little bumpiness from the afternoon sun but held their line with good strokes. Fairways in decent shape. Bunkers looked OK. Tees were mostly uneven and bare but playable.

Pace of play behind the Harbor Gateway tournament was slow. Finished with plenty of light and no mosquitoes. If they plan to aerate the balance of holes next week, I would give it time to heal. Greens looked very healthy and it's my hope the staff here know what they are doing to help these greens recover quickly.
8 Likes.
Played yesterday for my weekly golf fix.

Greens have improved to the point those splotchy, bouncy greens are a thing of the past even with the afternoon sun. They run pretty true with medium speed. They run a lot faster than they look.

Fairways with decent coverage.

Bunkers still a mixed bag of grainy sand, no sand, and hard pan. The worst is a thin layer of sand with hard pan/clay underneath.

Tee Boxes are flat for the most part but very playable.

I have only seen the course improve with their ground staff's latest replacements. They are working on obvious improvements (like a hitting cage which should be up soon) as well as much needed tree thinning and grounds maintenance. It's little wonder this course is getting busier because the local word is getting around. Loads of new faces.

Pace of play for 9 holes is an OK 2 hours.

Recommended.

P.S. Met Warren there, a lurking GKer that noticed my bag tag. LOL. Great playing with you guy and I look forward to playing with you again soon. For the record, it's nice to know the work we do here is appreciated. Spread the GK Word my brothers and sisters! So sayeth the gospel according to GK!
9 Likes.
Played yesterday Sunday Afternoon Twilight. Played 18 in under 3 1/2 hours. Course was EMPTY!!

That was the highlight, although much of the conditions on the course is sketchy there were some definite pluses.

Greens were OK. Poa is in full bloom from water and warmer weather. They were a little firm with medium/slow speed. You really had to strike your putt well to keep it online but definitely easy to putt once you had the pace down. Greens were firm, and there is work around each of the greens so you really cannot run a ball up. From what I saw they punched the collars. Aside from Hole 16 (Handicap 2 par 4) which was punched a few weeks ago that is the only maintenance.

Fairways were OK. Mostly thinish lies. Rough cut to the same height as fairway so not a problem. Bunkers in fairways were hard packed and easy to play through; not a lot of sand so if you hit a thin shot at a fairway bunker good chance it may bounce out. Bunkers around green are a mixed bag of hard packed, not sand and decent sand.

Happy with pace of play. I can see greens being a problem for most folks but for me it was decent once I figured out what to do to get the pace. And 18 holes in under 3 1/2 hours on a Sunday at Twilight, who is going to complain?
10 Likes.
Played yesterday. $34 Twilight with cart. Nice deal for this type of course.

Greens were quick and firm. Characterize them as a little too firm but with rains conditions will improve. Debris on green will literally knock ball off line. Putts for most part however held their line, just had to make sure little or no debris on path. Greens were quicker than they appear.

Fairways had good coverage considering it's winter conditions. Rough was thickish in places with varying height. Bunkers around greens beware. They have a thick layer of sand around sides with hold the ball in place. Expect cock-eyed lies. Folks fix your mess in the bunkers. If I was to criticize the bunkers it would be the lack of rakes per bunker and the sand along the sides but hey don't hit your ball into the bunker.

Pace of play was OK. We were a riding threesome following another threesome and they were slow. The twosome behind us never caught up to us except for a few holes.

Conditions overall are OK and with the rain I suspect it will only improve from there. Expect tricky greens that will not hold shots, however you can take advantage of the undulations on the green to stop the ball so there is a way to play the greens. Put enough spin on your ball and you can halt it quickly.
12 Likes.
Played yesterday.

Course is in decent shape for time of year. POP terrible (almost 3 hours for 9 holes). Greens ran fast and do not hold shots. To use a phrase from Tocho, they are a bit "crusty" due to lack of water and the cold weather as of late. The shot is to run the ball onto the green.

Fairways had good coverage. Rough is mixed bag of bare ground, grass cut to the same level as the fairway and just plain thick penal grass. Where you land is what you get. Bunkers have little or no sand and hard-packed. Tee boxes were flat for the most part and playable.

It's my goto course when time is a factor and really satisfy the golf itch that needs constant scratching. The nice thing about the course is it does offer a variety of golf holes you find at most courses so it's a good way to keep the game sharp and not drive all over the place.
14 Likes.
I have mixed feelings about this place. POP was longer since it was President's Day (holiday) so I am thinking that really played a lot to my lowered expectations. Played my GK Match Play today with Tocho.

Greens were FAST. Faster than El Dorado. I have never seen a ball pick up speed uphill with a stiff wind behind it. Today, well I saw a ball pick up speed with the wind behind it. The putts held their line for the most part but any debris or imperfection and you could see the ball skip and jump around. With the greens this fast you really had to dial in your speed to even have a chance for a second putt. No way to stop the ball even with high shots. Greens were firm so you had to run the ball onto the greens.

Bunkers were for the most part filled with decent sand. The par 5 on the back 9 however one of the bunkers had a thin layer.

Fairways had good coverage.

Rough was varied. Some locations were thick and penal others were the same height as the fairways. It was a mixed bag and whatever you landed on you did the best you could.

Tee boxes were flat and playable.

Overall conditions are decent to above average for time of year. Compared to the greens at El Dorado with the heavy foot prints, I think I prefer these greens to El Dorados. Mileage (hence, preference) will vary.

Green fee included Cart. Problem was I had a flat tire Hole 9. The tire literally popped on the cart path around the green at hole 9. Rather than destroy the tire I abandoned the cart. Asked the gal at the snack shop if I could get a replacement cart and she was either unable or unwilling to assist so I just gave her the keys and walked the rest of the 9 holes. Got a wonderful sarcastic remark to call AAA. I hope when she gets a flat tire and she has to ask for assistance the next guy she asks is as nice.

Oh despite the setback, I won my match 3&2. Great playing with you Tom!
11 Likes.
Played yesterday. El Dorado has always been a love/hate relationship for me. I love the course but the greens HATE me. Today was no exception.

Greens were FAST. Very difficult to stick a ball even with high shots. Tried to run the ball up but the fringes around the greens were recently punched so not a lot of release. Figure a few weeks and all should be good for that. Greens were as I said lightening fast. Very hard to keep your line from footprints though. More than my fair share of putts would skip and jump along these depressions. Took a while to adjust but finally settled with lagging my putts to get the most desired results.

Fairways had good coverage. But as my luck would have it I land in some old divot. Not the course's fault, just saying. Overall though nice coverage with decent cushion underneath. Rough is thick but not penal. Bunkers and I was in a few had nice coverage with decent sand -- very playable. Tee boxes were flat and lush.

Overall experience is very positive.

Pace of play was another thing entirely. This being President's Day weekend the course was packed. Front nine took a little more than 3 hours (30 mins delay on tee off included). Back 9 went a little faster at 2.5 hours. Still course was expected to play with delay so we made the appropriate concessions. The only problem I have is playing that long typically makes you tired -- more so than if you play quickly and finish quickly.

Bottom line, conditions are pretty nice here at El Dorado. If you can get out and play quickly and finish quickly then definitely worth the price of admission ($48 to walk/weekends.) The loads of play the course gets will limit your enjoyment.
10 Likes.
Played yesterday; trying to get in a few more rounds before the new year.

Conditions are OK. Tee boxes were flat for the most part. Two of them were closed or at least pushed forward which shows signs they are trying to improve their tee boxes. Fairways are hit and miss. I always aim for the greener spots. It's a mix between thin and relatively thin lies. Loads of mud line the fairways. It appears they really need to fix their sprinklers from the amount of mud that line their fairways and rough. Rough cut to the same height as the fairways so not very penal. Bunkers are hard packed. Greens look to be the best I have seen in a while. They run a little faster than normal for this place (Which says a lot) but with the afternoon sun the greens tend to get a bit more bumpier. Overall the greens held their line well with a well struck putt but for the most part were inconsistent from green to green.

Pace of play was slow considering it was after the holidays but bearable. Almost didn't finish and we were a threesome behind a really slow foursome.
8 Likes.
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