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Golf Course Reviews: California, Arizona, Nevada, Texas, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Utah, Florida, Hawaii!They are aerifying with small holes starting tomorrow which they should. The greens are in great shape and not crusty. The fairways are wonderful. The bunkers, likewise. I have always enjoyed this course(s). So sad the Players course closed several years ago.:(
The following was inspired by 4in1game's review: This is based on my experience with the atmosphere or vibe I always get here since the 1980's. Management wants to nickel and dime you every chance they get. There is nothing wrong with making money. It is our capitalist system, although not perfect, which has allowed for the great accumulation of prosperity and wealth in our society we so greatly benefit from. Luxuries such as golf become attainable even for one with relatively modest means like me. However, when a business has petty policies with the aim of "making money', the customer notices it and is at best indifferent, and at worst finds it repulsive and never patrons the business again. I think I am 70% indifferent and 30% repulsed. Such is the aura at this course since the 1980's. A good example is the ridiculousness of charging a fee to use a chipping/bunker postage stamp sized green. Hardly any other course does this. Or they didn't even have a replay rate when the course was 36 holes. Even 10 bucks off would have been nice. I get the feeling this is not a pleasant place to work at. I bet the employees are micromanaged. There are no or very few smiles by those in the pro shop. I suspect that management takes a very large chunk of the teaching pros lesson fees. What management needs to realize is how you treat your employees will reflect on how that employee relates to the customer. Recognize an employee as merely a pair of hands and you get bland service. Fortunately for management at Mile Square there are not a whole lot of competitors out there. If there where more golf courses, and more facilities with excellent, non-robotic employees who were engaging with the golfers, a great drift from Mile Square to other courses would be inevitable. Thanks for reading my "2 cents, or nickel and dime"
The following was inspired by 4in1game's review: This is based on my experience with the atmosphere or vibe I always get here since the 1980's. Management wants to nickel and dime you every chance they get. There is nothing wrong with making money. It is our capitalist system, although not perfect, which has allowed for the great accumulation of prosperity and wealth in our society we so greatly benefit from. Luxuries such as golf become attainable even for one with relatively modest means like me. However, when a business has petty policies with the aim of "making money', the customer notices it and is at best indifferent, and at worst finds it repulsive and never patrons the business again. I think I am 70% indifferent and 30% repulsed. Such is the aura at this course since the 1980's. A good example is the ridiculousness of charging a fee to use a chipping/bunker postage stamp sized green. Hardly any other course does this. Or they didn't even have a replay rate when the course was 36 holes. Even 10 bucks off would have been nice. I get the feeling this is not a pleasant place to work at. I bet the employees are micromanaged. There are no or very few smiles by those in the pro shop. I suspect that management takes a very large chunk of the teaching pros lesson fees. What management needs to realize is how you treat your employees will reflect on how that employee relates to the customer. Recognize an employee as merely a pair of hands and you get bland service. Fortunately for management at Mile Square there are not a whole lot of competitors out there. If there where more golf courses, and more facilities with excellent, non-robotic employees who were engaging with the golfers, a great drift from Mile Square to other courses would be inevitable. Thanks for reading my "2 cents, or nickel and dime"
I would advise NOT to play here. The greens are bumpy and slow. But what is worse is the lack of compassion the maintenance staff has for us public course golfers. THE ROUGH IS RIDICULOUS!! I was just off the fairway, in fact standing on it, trying to hack out of a nasty lie. What makes everything even more frustrating is if you miss a green you often find yourself in thick rough taking all the fun out of the game! The lie is anyone’s guess as how the ball will come out. Come on Chester Washington!!!! This is not the US Open!!! CUT the grass to make things playable for us not on the PGA Tour!!!!! It saddens me to be this negative because the fairways where in great shape. I will not play here for a loooong time.
I played here using an Under Par deal. This is a mature course. The greens roll very well despite an non-uniform tinge to them. You can not spray it here. Nearly every hole has OB and hazards in play. I think they over watered some areas. Perhaps getting ready for the heat of summer. After hole 3 do not try and cross the street. Go under the same tunnel between holes one and two. This is much safer. Private courses are almost never in bad shape. This old track is in great condition.
I finally got around to playing this "Classic" courtesy of a Griffith Park Golf Tournament. Many holes have on one side water and on the other, bunkers, placing a premium on tee shots. The trees are numerous but relatively sparse. Number 12 is a 160 yarder that when the pin is in the front could be the hardest tee shot under 175 yards in Southern California. I really want to play here again. I was distracted by one in our foursome who was utterly clueless about playing ready golf. I complained to the tournament committee. Conditions are great. No elaboration needed there. Like Beethoven, Leonardo da Vinci, or a William Shakespeare this course is a classic.
Lets start with the good. The course is very lush. Fairways and rough are nice. The greens and tee boxes are decent. Now the bad. The bunkers...what a farce. They are hard with rocks and high lips. They should either put sand in them, redo them or, get rid of many of them. The course is too hard for the average player. The elimination of many of these eyesores would help speed up play which leads into another bad, slow play. I played on a weekday and the round took 5 hours and 15 minutes!!! The people who run this place close one course Monday through Thursday. Big mistake! The 18 that is open becomes way too crowded contributing to such slow play. There is no way I will ever make this drive again to play at a snails pace waiting on every tee box and fairway.
I played here today on an Under Par deal. The course was rough. The greens where slow but rolled good. Many tee boxes reminded me of Victoria's fairways. I know I know, things will get much better as the air temperature cools and maintenance is completed. I loved the layout. The ninth was fun to play. Your tee shot is to an island fairway. You must be in the second half of the island. If not, you are playing over water to the green for a much tougher second shot. The holes bordering the property require good ball striking off the tee. The inner holes are more forgiving off the tee. This course is a classic worth your time even in less than ideal conditions.
Should I? or nah..too expensive? Well, I splurged. $241 including cart and decent rental clubs. I enjoyed the course. Great layout. The higher you go the more the gorgeous ocean comes into view. From tees to greens everything was nice. I wouldn't say perfect but nice. The greens were true but hard to read the grain. I had a few putts that broke very hard at the hole baffling me greatly. Maybe it was the super moon in the sky pulling on the earth with slightly greater strength? The rental clubs were Callaway Mavericks. I over clubbed several times with those irons. There is that moon again.....They even had stiff shafts for a left-hander. The question is ...Is it worth it? No, not for me, but no regrets. I now have played on Maui. The Big Island is left. Mahalo
I used an Under Par deal yesterday for this course and played 36 holes. I suggest you do the same. Does Golf Moose have a deal here? I think this course has better conditions than Goose Creek and that is saying a lot. The greens are perfect. They have more bent grass to them than bermuda compared to the other courses in the Coachella Valley. On holes 10, 11, and 12 you get away from the houses and play 3 wonderful holes in the hillside. I am glad I didn't play the blacks for my second round due to the wind really picking up in the afternoon. On 10 hit it straight. On 11 you only need 200-230 yards on tee shot and then about 190-220 for the downhill approach. On 12 well let me just say club selection club selection club selection....tough the first time you play this very downhill par 3. Hole 18 is a monster par 4 when the wind picks up. Make this course a priority for a summer deal, you won't be disappointed!!
I played in a Scga event here the other day. Wow what a secluded, gem of a golf course in Oceanside. If you have a chance to play here do it. You will not be disappointed. The surroundings are quiet except for the sound of nature. The layout is fantastic. Many approaches are uphill even if it doesn't look very uphill. The wind can swirl in this area making club selection and shot execution a challenge. They have one hole that can play as both a par 3 or par 4. Hit'em straight!!
12 Likes.
The last time I was here was about 30 years ago. The course is now 18 holes. The old Valley 9 has been converted into a frisbee course. The back 9 or old Mountain 9 was my first time playing it. Wow what a great layout. The views of the snow packed mountains were stunning. The greens were a bit slow but were in perfect shape. I wouldn't play here for at least a week, however. There is long grass everywhere. In many areas you have to step on it or inadvertently kick your ball to find it. I hit a tree 30 yards ahead of me trying to punch out only to lose it somewhere in a clump of thick grass. Right now is not fun. The grass in all areas needs serious mowing. We are expecting more rain which may further delay this needed maintenance.
I have been playing this month in rain and wind and soggy conditions at Chester. Even though during these times a golf ball will not roll very far, I consider Jan. 2023 to be a time where a premium is placed on accuracy off the tee. Chester is no different. With little leeway for maintenance crews to mow the grass before the next rain, the rough is very penalizing. It is easy to lose your ball taking lost ball 2 stroke penalties if you spray it too much. Chester boasts very small greens. I hit 7 greens the other day but I felt I hit the ball fairly well. Don't let the par 70, 6200 yard course fool you. This course is sneaky tough. I will play here a lot this year. 1. It is close 2. Its not diabolically crowded like Los Verdes. 3. It is in better shape than Alondra and most certainly Victoria, or "Victimoria" of methane gas. 4. You need imagination and touch around these tiny greens.
I played here once this week and once last week. I love this layout. It is an old school and mature track requiring thoughtful strategy on every hole. The fairways are dormant but still provide good lies. The rough is well....nearly perfect. It is green and lush as what a private course should provide. The greens roll very true and fast. Putts in the direction of Ontario are fast even if it appears uphill. Putts towards the mountains do not roll out as much.
The first hole is a very risky but rewarding 265 yard par 4. Miss the green long or right on your tee shot or second shot and you are in a world of hurt. Miss short and you are in water. Laying up with a 5 iron or hybrid is best. You will have 40 to 70 yards to the large green.
The only negative I would say is the putting green is tiny and the driving range is irons only. If given the opportunity to play here by all means do it. It is a 6500 yard blast of fun.
The first hole is a very risky but rewarding 265 yard par 4. Miss the green long or right on your tee shot or second shot and you are in a world of hurt. Miss short and you are in water. Laying up with a 5 iron or hybrid is best. You will have 40 to 70 yards to the large green.
The only negative I would say is the putting green is tiny and the driving range is irons only. If given the opportunity to play here by all means do it. It is a 6500 yard blast of fun.
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