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Played SC Muni on 3/8/21. Pretty normal SC conditions - generally good all around. Greens are quick. I did notice more ball marks than usual on a couple of greens. Fairways are solid. Rough is all over the place, some good, some not. Bunkers are fine. Still better conditions and a lower price than most, and toss in some great views.

I'd give it a high recommendation, but I do not want you all coming here and overcrowding my course. So....not recommended for you. :)

Of note, they have redone the back tees on 16, and will be putting in a couple more trees cutting off the shortcut left for the bombers. This was (I heard) a compromise with homeowners. I'm OK with this, because over the last two years, I've gotten older and lost enough distance that I can't take that shortcut any more. It was fun while I could.
6 Likes.
Played 1/20/22 with JohnnyGK and Guru's David & Gary. I've always been a fan of this course, it is a really fun layout. Not too tight, but still a pretty tough track to make pars.

Greens were excellent. Softer than I would have expected, but still quick. Fairways are dormant right now, so the lies were thin but very playable and some of the collection areas were divot heavy. Sand was generally nice, but I did get to the gathering spots in a couple that had a thin layer over the hard base and came out too far. But that is what I get for being in 10-12 bunkers.

The only negative is some fringe/collars around the greens are close to bare, but still have clumps of grass mixed in. The result being a lie that is too bare to chip off of, but you can't putt either because it is going to bounce randomly off the clumps. I've seen some courses have to do complete turf replacement of collars before, Dove may need to consider that on several holes here.

Course was busy, but we still moved around well. Staff is always great at DCCC. Be sure to take some time to look out over the course in the canyon, some great views here. Highly recommended.
15 Likes.
Played 01/11/22. My first time back here since 2016, and I must say things have really improved out here.

Greens were fast and smooth. Very firm though, play for a big first bounce. Fairways had good coverage, but they were also firm and fast. Get far off the fairway too far, and the rough turns to bare dirt, so keep it in the fairway with shorter clubs.

I had a hard time in the bunkers as the firm conditions means the ball will roll into a collection area in the trap, and the sand there is thin with a hard layer underneath - so you do get some bounce off the bottom and the ball goes much further than planned. Not terrible though, but I never quite adjusted.

We teed off at noon as a threesome, with a 2-some ahead of us at 11:40. Those two always stayed just ahead of us, we saw them but never had to wait, and we all zoomed around in under 3.5 hours.

In all, a great day at Native Oaks. Highly recommended.
11 Likes.
Played SC Muni on 10/28/21. In general, conditions were pretty standard for here. Greens a bit thin, but rolled well. Fairways good. Rough is hit and miss. Bunkers were just fine.


The one exception - the tee boxes are awful. Some might have some grass, but they were all overloaded with sand. It was like teeing off in a bunker. I can only assume this was major maintenance, having played here for years I've never seen it like this.

I'll be back, always a fun course to play, hopefully those tee boxes recover quickly.
11 Likes.
Played with Nick & John in the GolfMoose/GK outing on 9/21/21. Nick nailed it on the conditions and the terrible pace, and Sal was right in that this did not feel like an outing in the sense that you did not get much attention from the Morgan Run staff. Not a good sell of their hosting capabilities. But Moose got us a good price, so I suspect other outings here are more expensive and the service goes along with that.

I will say though, after playing the South and East 9s previously, the North 9 is the star of the show. Lots of character, interesting holes, great conditions. The South is also very good, just not as scenic. The East was closed for needed fall maintenance.

Now that I have seen all 27 holes, I really like the course and I suspect it is a nice option at a level below many high dollar clubs in the near area. Worth a visit if you have a chance.

Great to see several GKers that I had not seen in a long time!
11 Likes.
Played MSQ on 9/7/21.

First - conditions are pretty good. Greens are very nice, smooth, medium fast. Fairways in good shape with a rare bad spot. Rough is fine. Tee Boxes are a mess right now, some areas being massively sanded, and for some reason the grounds crew would put the markers right in the sandy area. Luckily, two club lengths would usually get you back to playable grass. In all, no major concerns with the course conditions.

The revised routing is as follows: #1 - #14 on the Classic remain unchanged. Players #10 is now #15 (temporarily a Par 3 though). Players #18 is now #16. You then jump back over to Players #8 and #9 as the new #17 and #18 (these two holes belonged to the Classic course before Players was built anyway). This results in a Par 74 (73 due to #15 being played as a 3).

The routing is a bit of hopscotch on those last 4. It appears that they are building a new #16 coming reverse back over Players #1. That will make it a smooth flow from 14 through 18.

It was sad to see the remnants of the Players course through the fence. I always enjoyed that course just a bit more than the Classic. Classic remains the same general course - a fun track to play.
9 Likes.
Played 8/23 with Guru's Mark, Tim & Jim. Mark's review nailed it. It is hard to rate this course with such different conditions on the 9s.

The South 9 was really great in the important areas. Tees, fairways, greens, sand all extremely nice. The East 9 was quite a mess with lots of bare spots in the fairways, and the greens battered by ball marks. Very unusual to find a course with such different condition between adjacent nines.

The layout is nice. For a course that only measures in the 6600 range it plays really long. Par 3s go from 115 to 215 (thank goodness that 215 didn't play to the scorecard listed 235). Par 4s up to 460. It is a very playable course with a few hazard to bite you.

If you do go out on the east, be sure to pause and enjoy the huge backyards on the east edge of the course and imagine yourself living there and setting up a nice 150 yard pitch & putt course in your backyard. You don't see that in SoCal often.

I will give Morgan Run a guarded recommendation, just be warned that the East needs some focus at this time. The South is great, and the North (closed this day) looked comparable to the South.
12 Likes.
First time back to my home course in 18 months, played 6/30/21. Not impressed. It's playable, but conditions aren't close to the SC Muni which costs much less.

Greens bumpy. Grass coverage is good, so I was surprised they were not rolling well. Fairways and rough are ok, overall decent but there are some areas not good.

Bunkers are not good. Half are hard as a cart path, obviously have not been maintained. Some have a thin layer of sand. One was completely closed off as it looked like it was being completely rebuilt. I can only hope that is a sign that they are redoing bunkers, because as they are it is an embarrassment.

Tee boxes are indicative of a course getting heavy play. Divots fill the tee boxes on Par 3s.

Talega drops off my "recommended" list at this time. Great layout, sub-muni conditions. There are much better options out there.
13 Likes.
Played early on 6/10/21. Let's get the one minor negative out of the way...they have a light topcoat of sand on the greens. Give that a week to settle in, and the greens will be fabulous. Right now, the grass is great and rolling smooth.

Fairways are borderline immaculate. Green, plush, super-healthy.

Tee boxes are very good. The two or three boxes under construction have been resodded, but not open yet. Should be soon though. Rough is getting thick as well.

In all, amazing conditions for a muni. Heck, amazing conditions for any course, public or private.
10 Likes.
Played BrokenTee Creek in the afternoon of 5/27.

Greens are in good shape. Very last stages of recovery from aeration, but generally very smooth, soft and quick. Fairways and rough in good shape.

Bunkers are in good shape, although the post-COVID crowd has not started to use the rakes and it shows.

If you like teeing off of bare dirt and having an infinite supply of broken tees, you will love it here. Especially the StoneBrokenHouseTee nine where almost every tee box is dirt in the middle. You can get a bit of grass on the edges, but you won't get grass under your feet and under your club. And broken tees as far as the eye can see! Add a few minutes to every tee shot to pick away all the glorious broken tees so that you can stand. In 45 years of golf, never have I see such an effort to provide golfers an endless supply of broken tees.

Still love the old 18, hate the Stonehouse 9. Conditions were better on the Oaks than Stonehouse, but don't worry, there are still plenty of broken tees on the Oaks.
9 Likes.
Out early on 5/19. It's been a few weeks post-aeration, but the greens are still a bit shaggy and bumpy. A couple of more weeks and they should be good to go.

A few tee boxes are being completely rebuilt (1, 11, 16). Always surprised that #1 tee box is always so bad when the #10 tee box that is 15 yards away has always been nice. Hopefully the #1 rebuild fixes that.

Otherwise, standard SC conditions with better than most fairways and patchy rough. Bunkers - some are still being ignored and are a mess. Some are fine.

Definitely seen SC in better shape, and I am sure it will be again soon. Still a great bargain though.
8 Likes.
What Gary said ..... ditto!

He summed it up well. Not much more I can add. Better than average conditions all around. Highly recommended.
6 Likes.
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