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Played out here with an 11:45 GN Hot Deal today. Got an amazing deal thanks to a DealCaddy $20 for $10 voucher on top of a great Hot Deal price. Arrived a little early and the starter informed me there was a tournament that just went out, but he said I’d be paired with people and sent out probably a few minutes early. There was then some confusion and the twosome I was supposed to play with teed off without me, but the starter drove out to the first fairway and told them I was joining them. No big deal and nice work by the starter. That tournament two groups ahead of us caused pace of play to be quite slow all day. After a 2.5 hour front nine, the couple I was playing with (visiting from Minnesota for a San Diego golf vacation) quit, but I forged ahead. The back nine also took 2.5 hrs for a total 5:00 POP. Thankfully it was a gorgeous day on a beautiful course, and I took a ton of photos, so I wasn’t too upset by the undesirable pace.

The course is in very nice condition for the most part. I rated it just about 7s across the board. Greens are smooth and medium fast. They are more firm than they are soft, and there’s lots of mounding/undulations on them that make reading and holing putts tricky. Fairways have mostly good coverage but there are some thin spots. The rough is mostly lush, offering fluffy lies although there are some thin and bare spots, too. Blue tee boxes were good, although No. 14 was a little bare and beat up. Bunkers I was in were good, but one had some rocks in it.

Residual rain damage: There are several areas of standing water around the course, but they mostly seem to be in out of the way areas that would rarely come into play. However, a large area right of the fourth fairway was all wet and there was a temporary “lake” short of the 6th green. On the back, the right bunker on the par-3 17th has lots of water in it. I didn’t find any of these areas and I encountered no rain-related problems elsewhere.

This was my second time here and the course was much more pleasing to the eye this time around. They have it looking great with a cool aesthetic of tall grasses in many places that aren’t directly in the line of play. I really loved it; highly recommended right now. I uploaded 62 photos from today to a Flickr photo album that can be seen here: https://goo.gl/NFFQYX
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Played out here this morning with a 10:48 tee time. Was sent out by myself right on time, following a twosome. Pace was decent and nine holes took about 1:40. Weather was schizophrenic: Very foggy to start, then beautiful, then cold and windy, back to beautiful, back to foggy. It seemed to continually change from hole to hole. Course is currently walking only due to recent rains. I encountered none of the service issues the previous reviewer did. Half the parking lot is self parking, so I didn't have to valet, and the pro shop guy I dealt with was super friendly and helpful.

The course is generally in good condition following a closure due to recent storms. Hopefully the storms coming later this week don't overflow Aliso Creek and cause further damage. The greens were great: Medium-fast to fast, smooth and held full shots very well. Fairway conditions were mixed. Most all were quite wet and they looked good from afar, but some were a bit thin and/or muddy in spots. No real complaints from me, though. Rough was pretty lush but also mixed conditions. There are large areas of GUR roped off all over the course, and within some of those areas is some of the lushest, best looking grass this side of Rams Hill (or Augusta, take your pick). It looks like they laid down sod in those areas and it's really fantastic looking. Tee boxes were decent, some a bit beat up. Bunkers I was in were good.

Despite living about four miles from this course as the crow flies, I'd only played it once before. That time, the whole course was aerated and dried out, and it wasn't all that inspiring. Wow, what a difference today! This is such a gorgeous course in a wonderful setting. On the third hole, if you'd told me I was in Hawaii, I would've believed it. At $35 for nine holes of par 32 golf, I doubt I'll be out there too often, but I sure would like to be.

I took a ton of photos and posted 40 to a Flickr photo album here: https://goo.gl/rFktMq
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Played out here today with an 11:52 GolfNow Hot Deal. Pretty sure this was the first time ever for me that a GolfNow reservation wasn’t in the course computer. Although I showed him my confirmation in the GN app, the pro shop guy asked me to call GN and they got it resolved quickly with no headaches other than that extra step. The pro shop guy was adamant that I wait for my other “half cart” partner, who arrived just a couple minutes before our tee time. As a result, we probably started a few minutes late. The course was full of twosomes, several in front of us and several behind us. Oddly, no one seemed like they wanted to join up, so we all just remained twosomes. The front nine was pretty smooth but that back nine got a little jammed up. Total POP was 4:25. Weather was fantastic and I played the black/Tournament tees (6,590).

The course is in pretty decent playing condition. Visually it’s rough around the edges but it plays better than it looks. The greens are by far the highlight. They are very lush and roll smoothly. However, they are only about medium speed, except me and my playing partner did have a few putts race away from us. I tend to think there’s a lot of grain here, because green speeds were inconsistent, but the greens are in quite good condition, so I can’t attribute it to certain greens being faster than others. The greens are medium firmness; my short-iron approaches stopped quickly but mid-irons bounced and ran out some. Fairways have good coverage but it’s a patchy mix of different types of grass – some very tight bermuda underneath some rye (or similar-looking grass) sprouting up. All of it was mowed short. If you’re in the fairway, you’re likely going to be on grass. The rough is much more hit or miss. I had some really lush, fluffy lies and also found some hardpan. The bunkers I was in surprisingly had tons of soft sand, but many fairway bunkers are almost like hardpan and balls ran right through them. For the most part, the black tee boxes had good coverage but some were shaggy and many were lumpy. The 14th tee was quite bare, though.

This was my second time playing the course. I love a lot of holes out here, and others aren’t very inspiring. All four par 3s are fantastic, and all quite different from each other. On the back nine, the stretch of 13 through 17 is really good and all fun holes. Basically anywhere the course butts up against the mountains, it’s great. The flatlands holes are more forgettable. If this course were closer to my home, I’d play it more often but it’s almost a 90-minute drive for me. Thankfully it’s a good value, so I can justify the drive occasionally.

Rain-related notes: There are a few large areas of standing water on the course, but none of them really come into play. They seemed to all be within the first 100 yards off the tee on several different holes. A large section of rough left of the 6th green is marked as GUR. The 9th hole was cart path only and carts are asked to observe the 90-degree rule on the remainder of the course. All in all, the course seems to have handled the rain well and/or already recovered.

Here’s a link to my Flickr album of 34 photos from today: https://goo.gl/6jNNAi
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Played out here today with a 10:39 GN Hot Deal time. Paired with three nice guys from Calgary here on vacation. Their wives played directly in front of us and were very quick; we couldn't really keep up even though total POP was good at 4:10, and the course seemed very full. Weather was great with patchy clouds but lots of sunlight. The wind kicked up around the 5th hole and persisted most of the day, typical for here in Windmill Canyon. Getting on the base, check-in and starter were all easy. (*More on getting onto the base later.)

The course is in very nice condition. Greens are smooth and fast. Not necessarily glassy fast but more sneaky fast; very difficult to get balls to stop at the hole. There's lots of slope on these greens and it seemed today anytime a putt rolled past the hole it would catch a slope and run out another 4-6 feet or so. The greens are about medium firmness. They didn't stop on a dime most times...more like a bounce or two and then stop. Fairways were lush, cut short with good coverage and any remaining muddy areas from recent storms were roped off. Rough was also pretty lush, good coverage but not too penal. I was in one bunker and it looked very well manicured, but was a little firm underneath a thin top layer of soft sand. Blue tee boxes were all good. Today the 12th hole played from an alternate tee I'd never seen that is practically right behind the 11th green, rather than the one to the left of the 11th green. Definitely changes that tee shot with the creek crossing the fairway.

I really, really love this old-school course. I was surprised to see it had been more than a year since I'd played here. *Good thing it had, though, because apparently you can't access the base as a civilian more than once a year anymore. I called and talked to a pro shop guy yesterday who explained that you can apply for a 90-day access pass on the Camp Pendleton/course website. I'll be doing that, because I definitely want to get back out there again soon. If you haven't played this course, I highly recommend you get out there and give it a chance.
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Late last night I saw an absurdly low GolfNow “Hot Deal” price for 8:22 this January morning in the desert, so I grabbed it after hearing encouraging things recently about conditions. They paired me with a twosome and we started a few minutes early. Oddly, there was hardly anyone on the course, so we never waited and never had anyone within sight behind us. Total POP a tidy 3:10. Outside services attendants were very friendly and willing to help, too. The weather couldn’t have been more perfect. I shed my pullover by the fourth hole and it was even a little warm with short sleeves on.

Conditions are much improved compared to the run-down “new normal” here of the past few years. It seems they are making more of an effort and getting good results. That’s not to say it’s on par with Desert Willow or somewhere like that, but for a budget round in the desert this time of year, it’s in nice condition. Specifics: Greens are very nice. They are smooth, medium fast and accept full shots quite well, although there is some run out. The surfaces are pretty firm and full shots barely made any ball mark at all. Fairways are lush with great coverage. I only saw one muddy spot from the recent rains, just short of the ninth green. For some reason, throughout the entire course, the border/transition from fairway to rough is an apron of dead grass and/or dirt about 12-18 inches wide. Not sure what’s going on there, but if your ball stopped there, it would be a bummer. It also detracts visually from the course. The rough was lower quality condition and coverage than the fairway, but decent overall. Not too deep nor penal. Tee boxes were very nice; lush and with great coverage. I was in one fairway bunker and it was good, although a playing partner complained about the greenside bunkers.

Having played this course quite a few times many years ago, I sort of have a soft spot for it and it’s nice to see it in better condition than what I’d seen and read the last few years. Definitely recommended for a good value option in the desert.

Here’s my Flickr photo album of 43 photos from today: https://goo.gl/njaDZt
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Played General Old this morning with a 7:22 GN Hot Deal. I booked as a single and then the threesome who bought the rest of the times brought a fourth person, so the pro shop guy sent me out by myself. I played behind a foursome all day, but I hadn't been here on a nice day for a while, so I took pictures and took my time and things moved great. Finished in 3:40.

Conditions are decent. Good news is the greens are the highlight, mostly very nice and nearly excellent. The third green had a bunch of dead/discolored areas, which was unfortunate. The rest of the greens are very smooth, medium-fast/fast and accept full shots very well. They are especially fast when putting toward the March Field runway. Fairways are mediocre, a mix of lush grass, dormant grass and thin areas. They were a little shaggy, too. So even when in the fairway, lies aren't that great because they're either thin or a bit clumpy. Rough was much the same as the fairway, just longer in length. (Even with a 7:22 time, there was frost on the fairways until the 4th hole this morning.) I saw a few muddy spots around the course but mostly it seemed that the recent rains have been absorbed (just in time for more storms later this week). I was in one bunker and couldn't play a traditional bunker shot due to being right against the edge, but the sand seemed nice and well maintained. Tee boxes had good coverage but were a little lumpy and/or not level.

The last couple times I played here, the weather was ugly, so today I took advantage of blue skies and made a Flickr photo album of 36 photos here: https://goo.gl/8GQyXs

P.S. I noticed there's a note on their website that says the property will not be developed and the course will remain open! Great news!
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Played here today at 12:00 with a TeeOff.com “Deal” time minus 25% promo code. As mentioned in a previous review, they didn’t show my reservation in their computers and they said there is some sort of glitch with TeeOff.com times that they often don’t show up. Fortunately I’d printed the confirmation and the pro shop guy sent me right out, no hassle. Keeping the theme from my round earlier this week, I played the front nine in about 1:10 while playing through one group. On the ninth hole I caught another group and then the whole back nine was pretty much stacked up and full of players. The back took probably about 2:20-2:30 for an overall POP of about 3:45.

This was my second time here. The first time was prior to the course closing for a while, and conditions were not good at all that time. This time they were maybe a little better. The good news is the greens are quite nice. They were smooth, soft and pretty quick (medium-fast). The 15th green has some unfortunate damage where it looks like some jerk did donuts in their cart on the green. That damage looks to be mostly healed and it didn’t seem to affect my long, cross-green putt on that hole. The fairways and rough are where the course still really needs lots of work. Some fairways have decent grass coverage and others do not. Some that have grass seem well maintained and others seem shaggy, like they’ve been ignored for a few days. The rough is probably the most difficult part of the course to rate, because they are clearly focusing on trying to grow grass down the middle of each hole. On many holes, everything to the sides of that “fairway” area is bare dirt. On other holes, there is some grass. There is rough around the tee boxes and greens, but again the conditioning of that grass is inconsistent throughout. If you don’t mind moving your ball to grass (I do), you might not have too much of an issue with the fairways and rough. It’s best to expect your ball to be on dirt and then be pleasantly surprised if you end up on grass. The bunkers I was in were nice. Tee boxes are pretty good and seem to be consistent throughout the course. Overall, for the rate I paid and going in with knowledge of their situation (read: extremely lowered expectations), I enjoyed the round and would recommend you play it at that rate, as long as you know what you’re in for.

Perhaps the best way to see the conditions is through my photos, so I uploaded a Flickr album of 40 photos from today here: https://goo.gl/JFuTw6

A few more notes: Many fairways are roped off to cart traffic, and others are not. It seems they’ve added 100/150/200 yard poles along the edge of the fairways on the front nine. On the back, there were none and it can be very difficult to find a sprinkler head or any type of yardage. Hopefully those poles are slated for installation on the back, too. Shirts in the pro shop had the “Links Championship at Summerly” name but no where else did I see the “Championship” part included. Not sure if they’ve dropped that or what. The scorecard no longer includes what used to be the tips, with the blues maxing out the course at 6,741 yards.
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Played here Tuesday, 1/3 with a 7:00 am tee time. I called a few days prior to inquire about the possibility of a frost delay and was told they'd had them nearly every day for a month. Fortunately there was no delay on Tuesday, although I was informed when I checked in that I'd run into a shotgun tournament that started at 8:00. I got sent to the first tee by myself a few minutes before 7:00 and flew through the front nine in about 1:10. Then there were three tournament groups on the 10th hole when I arrived. The starter offered to have me play the front again, but because it was my first time here, I really wanted to see the whole course. He told me to follow the two groups on the tee box, which sandwiched me in between tournament groups. The group behind me initially acted as if they were entitled to play through me because they were part of the tournament, but then we joined up at a course employee's request after a few holes and they turned out to be really nice, great guys. Front nine 1:10, finished the back nine about 2:30 after finishing the front (which includes about 20 minutes wait on the 10th tee), for a total POP of about 3:40. Not bad, especially considering I planned on a likely frost delay and ~8:30/9:00 start. Also, my time was a GN Hot Deal and I used a $10 GN Reward toward it, so I got a really great deal.

Conditions are quite nice, highlighted by really smooth greens. They ran medium-fast to fast and were a little on the firm side. Full shots would take one big bounce and then stop. There are lots of undulations to some of these greens. Fairways are consistent green and lush, and nice to play from. There were a few muddy/wet spots on a few holes, but nothing too bad. Rough was coarse, splotchy dormant grass that mostly laid down, so it wasn't deep but was somewhat difficult to gauge how it would play. Tee boxes were mostly good/great. Sand was very good in all the bunkers I was in.

As I mentioned earlier, this was my first time here. I enjoyed the layout, although it isn't anything I'd necessarily recommend someone go out of their way to play. It's somewhat of a novelty in that it's a pretty straightforward parkland layout amid all of Las Vegas' desert style courses. Like roarksown mentioned, there are quite a few hazards that are not visible from the tee. Definitely worthwhile to pay attention to the hole diagrams on the scorecard. Also a pretty good variety in hole lengths, except all five par 3s play pretty deep from the tips. I appreciated the signage on various holes chronicling the history of the course and people who lived on it, as well as what Tiger scored en route to winning the 1996 Las Vegas Invitational. For Clark County residents, they are currently running a special: 3 rounds in January for $99. If you can get out there three times, definitely a good deal.
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I took caligolfer1031 up on his Meet & Play for 9:00 here this morning. We paid $15 each due to it being a course holiday, but otherwise his GolfMoose certificate had us covered. Thank you caligolfer1031! As you'd expect for this week, it was quite busy and we started a few minutes late, paired with another twosome. We waited a bit on the front side, but overall pace was pretty decent for how busy the course was, and we finished in right around 4.5 hrs.

The course doesn't look all that pretty but it's playing pretty good right now. Greens are medium fast and mostly smooth (except when they aren't; I had one putt bounce on me pretty bad). They were somewhat inconsistent in accepting shots, however. I hit a high-flighted 7-iron about pin-high into #15 and it bounced and did not hold the green. On other greens, I backed up a few approach shots. So it's hard to tell which greens will hold and which will not. Overall, though, no real complaints about the greens. The first fairway scared me a bit. It was very shaggy and looked like it hadn't been mowed for four or five days. Fortunately, that was the only hole like that. The rest were cut short, mostly dormant Bermuda and afforded pretty good lies – albeit a little thin – most of the day. On many holes, there was hardly any delineation in length of grass from fairway to rough. Most was cut very short like fairways 2-18. Some deeper, lusher areas around some greens. There were also occasional muddy spots due to the recent rains both in fairways and rough. Not too many, though. Blue tee boxes were a little beat up but not bad; worse on par 3s than other holes. Bunkers had nice sand but could use some TLC – leaves accumulated in them, clumpy sand in spots, etc. Overall, the course is playing very nice for late December and today's weather couldn't have been any more ideal. Recommended.
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Played out here today with an 11:02 tee time. Got abbacat to join me via Meet & Play and we used a Groupon I had for a twosome that (with a 20% off promo code) came to $30 for two players, cart included. Great deal! It was only good after 11:00 and even when checking in at 10:35, the pro shop guy made a point to tell me we couldn't start before 11:00. There was no starter so we headed to the tee around our time and probably started a few minutes late. We paired up with a twosome of Green River regulars, one of whom was 86 years old. The group in front of us lost us pretty quickly but our pace wasn't bad. Around 4:15 total on a very, very windy day.

Conditions are pretty good. The course probably looks a little better than it plays right now, but it's very playable. The greens were green and lush but were susceptible to many imperfections – lots of unfixed ball marks and various other nicks. As a result, lots of bumpy putts among our foursome. They roll medium fast and are pretty soft, accepting full shots well. However, I had a hard time fixing ball marks because the ground was so hard beneath the surface. That was sorta weird. Fairways are pretty lush kikuyu with occasional thin spots. Rough was more prone to bare spots. Blue tee boxes decent, some a bit lumpy. The sand was a low point. I was only in one bunker and it was very thin, but one of our playing partners said they're all very thin.
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Played in the 10:30 group in today's year-end GK Plays. Fun times with HmtGolfGuy, sixpez and UNCLEDDBOY23. We waited a bit on pretty much all tees and approaches, but overall pace was good at about 4:30, and who really cares when your surroundings are as beautiful as they are at Rams Hill? At one point today I actually felt like, "Oh no, the round is going too fast. I don't want it to end!"

Conditions are excellent, as is typical here. The greens have softened considerably since the re-opening. They said they were 11.5 on the stimp today but I don't think they were quite that fast. They were medium fast, mostly pure (UNCLEDDBOY23 had a putt bounce off line when it hit something en route to the hole) and accepted full shots pretty well. Later in the afternoon they started to show quite a few footprints, but overall they were very good. Fairways are incredibly lush and beautifully deep green. The grass was a little long, as Rat Patrol mentioned. Not sure if maybe they weren't cut today or if that's the norm. Rough was also very lush, probably about 2-3 inches deep in most spots. I was in one bunker and it was perfect. Tee boxes excellent. If I want to get real nitpicky, I feel the course wasn't quite as immaculately manicured all around as it has been on my three previous visits, but really that's only visual stuff and nothing that affects play.

Overall, an incredibly fun day, I played great, and took home a 2017 Golf Nomad calendar and $25 GolfMoose gift certificate. Thank you Johnny for this event and everything you've done for us all year! And thank you to Rams Hill for having us out and to all the sponsors for making the GK Events so fun and full of great prizes.
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I took advantage of a GolfNow offering for 12:30 yesterday out here. I got sent out a little early, teeing off with two other non-members around 12:10. Pace was decent although we waited on most shots. Oddly, the group ahead of us let us play through after the 11th hole and then we caught another group a couple holes later. All told, pace very good at a little under 4:00.

Conditions are generally good. The greens are quite fast but not all that pure. They seem to have a thin layer of grass on top of a muddy base, so they are prone to minor imperfections. Balls stopped very quickly, and I even had a few balls land and spin back on me. Some pretty severe slope on some greens, too, and if the ball caught that slope, it often wouldn't stop for a while. A couple greens were in noticeably inferior condition to the others. Fairway grass ranged from lush to thin to bare spots, although all of the fairway bare spots were painted as GUR. The rough was also a mixed bag, but mostly good coverage. Bare spots in the rough were not marked as GUR, so you deal with whatever you get. A few holes looked to have some irrigation trenches being dug/worked on, but those areas were obviously GUR. Tee boxes were decent/good, and same for all of the bunkers I was in.

Despite playing less than 6200 yards, this is quite a difficult course. On many holes, it's chokingly tight due to tons of trees. The greens are tricky to read. There are some funky holes and some very straightforward holes. It has a nice classic look and yesterday it was bathed in sunlight with long shadows all over the place, which I love. Here's a link to my Flickr album of 34 photos: https://goo.gl/zDwajW
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