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Muroc Lake GC
Play Day 02.22.20
It was a cloudy cold and windy day that ended the our last three holes in the rain during a fun competition, SCGA Team Play.

The course was okay, with good smooth greens in medium fast. The bunkers were okay with sand, and the fairways were in good shape. The teeing grounds were fine.

Not too many other players were on the course so the pace were around four hours and 15 minutes.

In any case, this military base allows the Antelope Valley residents on the premises provided they apply for a pass. Typically, $35 gets you a cart, a burger w/fries meal with a drink and a second round, and if you want to go out again, another $12 for a cart fee. Full pro shop with quality merchandise in a discounted rate and no tax- gotta love that.

This time, our boys returned the favor back to CCC from last week’s event- all fun and very competitive, MLGC rises up top.

The kitchen outdid themselves with a really nice seafood plated meal and desserts- impressive!

It is not like this meal on regular days, it’s just a regular fast food diner, but during tournaments they put on a good meal.

I just wished it was a nicer weather.
4 Likes.
Play days 02.14.20 & 02.15.20
09:20am tee time & 10:00am shotgun respectively. Both days were a beautiful sunny day in the mid to high 60s. The wind came around 02:00pm on Sunday but mostly 6-9 mph before that.

It was a Team Play match that I was lucky enough to have been a part of- I was on the away team but I knew most everyone- many friends in both teams, making it a great two days of visit and a Saturday match though we got our b-hinds kicked :-) CCC team played well. ...and we didn’t.

Anyway, this old course held its own during the competition with its good conditions despite the two 15 inch snow they had during two grand holidays, Thanksgiving and Christmas, covering the grounds for more than two weeks each time. I’d say the current conditions right now is pretty darn good!

The fairways are in lush good shape- a little on the dry side now so the ball ran pretty good.

The bunkers (green side) where I was in a couple different times or more had sand and they were well preped- they all looked good but the fairway bunkers lacked the sand (making it easier to get out of I think).

A few teeing grounds like on #2 was thin and had mostly been that way Or I’ll just say grass stays weaker around the trees it is under from that spot. #11 & 15 has the uneven grounds- watch where u tee it or use it to your own advantage. There were a few other tees that weren’t quite green in color because of the cold weather, but it’s really okay it has good grass coverage- dormant.

The greens were surprisingly smooth and fast- rolled very true and it also held good shots in- everyone loved it as I hear positive comments at different times on other’s conversations. (I know , I can’t help it :-) A couple of the greens had some work being done along the top edges if I remember but out where it didn’t play. The greens played fabulous and better than it looks in mixed coloration, again, from cold weather and type of mixed grass.

The meals were well prepared and quite tasty and the generous members’ open bar was awesome for the day’s event. Win or lose, it was fun with plenty of great camaraderie being had on that fun day.

The good staff and services at the dining were excellent and the pro shop staff were never behind. I’s were dotted and tees crossed in preparing the whole day with their expertise in all aspects of services and our needs. New range balls, carts with names, cards were well marked with handicaps and all. Very professional and official and it’s just nice to have that in a group match.

In addition, there were a few old trees that had been down and some new ones are in replacement. The trees around the par 3 #11 and par 5, 12th are being trimmed up top (yes!) you can hit high shots again when the wind is down.

Come visit this old school Billy Bell, Jr. design. It’s away from the hustle and bustle of traffic and city with a truly enjoyable experience.
6 Likes.
Play date: 01.22.20

Once again, it was a bright sunny with a few patch of clouds and very little wind at the Classic making it a real fun warm day.

There's not much I could add to the prior review I've done. The course is as good as any good course anyone could find. It is as majestic as its name and the current playing conditions are very good.

Greens rolled smooth and medium fast.
Teeing grounds were lush and level.
The rough were dormant and were about one to two inches in height making it very easy to get out of.
The bunkers were good and had plenty of sand.
Good customer service all around.
Beverage cart was present and came around a few times.
The restaurant had good food and services.

Highly recommended.
8 Likes.
Play date: 10.21.20

A nice day in the cloudy but a cooler 71 degree with very little winds.

The pro shop staff were welcoming and the bev cart came around a few times. Some guys in our group were looking for sandwiches- the girls didn't have any so he asked if he could have her get one but not a chance. No big deal.

The rough were dormant and they were down and easy to play from, however, around the greens on those dormant Bermuda made it a challenge to make a good shot. The fairways were tightly mowed though there were plenty of unfilled divots so it wasn't great. The bunkers had very little sand to none though some of the greenside bunkers had some enough to make good shots. The greens were slow and bumpy with lots- I mean plenty of ball marks fresh and old- very disappointing!!

I like the course, but I can't say I will come back any time soon.
8 Likes.
Play date: 01.20.20

A beautiful day here for my first time on this course. Although the crisp cool temps lingered longer because of the hills around it, the temps did get to its high 60s with very little wind if any... great day!

The pro shop and its staff were all attentive and very accommodating making sure we've got what we needed was a pleasant welcoming.

The course conditions were good. Starting with the teeing grounds, it is old school, having small knoll in the middle, but they were lush. The fairways were also good- it runs well without having mud on the ball, and they were tightly cut and lush. The rough were not overly long and penalizing with some areas having shorter length than the 3-4 inches in many of the areas. The greens were medium slow, but they were smooth and were okay. The bunkers had plenty of sand in it and they were fair.

I like this golf course for its simplicity and classic style that many including me could play it everyday, but not necessarily walk it as a few of the holes were far from each other. The one thing I did not like were the duck poop on the course near their lakes and some other places.

The beverage cart came around a few times which was nice.
4 Likes.
Play date: 01.19.20

It was a very nice day at this resort course with partly cloudy day and very little wind. The day's temps got up to 71 making it a really fun day to be out.

This little course has a lot of members, although it isn't a very exclusive place, every aspect of their course and facilities are at its best: From their tennis courts to their exercise/gym, to their outdoor and indoor pools, bar and restaurant, and the best yet their course that is so well maintained with their (always) new equipment without shortage including the number of their crew.

As a result, their course is at its tiptop shape for play and I was once again very impressed with how cool it is to play it. Their teeing grounds were perfect, and btw, the number one tee has been completed, moving back a few yards. The original practice putting green is now used for chipping area and it's surface is amazingly great- much better than many other playing greens I've been on. The new practice green just south of the old one is also completed and it's conditions are seamlessly wonderful.

The fairways are also amazingly great- it runs well and tightly mowed and we could hardly see any brown spot and that look also goes for the rough that is about 3 inch high and never really being difficult to get out of.

The bunkers are with white sand that are conditioned for good play on all existing bunkers in the fairways and greensides. I was in a few but didn't mind it at all knowing that it will react well if I executed a shot correctly. But of course, no one wants to be in a bunker unless it's a part of the game that could be advantageous if you know what I mean.

The greens are superb, it is one of the best I've played anywhere. They were smooth, fast and true to say the least. Loved it!

There were beverage carts who came around more than a few times. The pro shop didn't take cash, credit cards only to all the guests, and they were pleasant and easy to deal with.

They also have the best brunch buffets in the valley (I think) with plenty of choices of good quality food and beverages.

A place like this is always something I would love to come back and visit and often.
6 Likes.
12-09-19
With the exception of the weather being sunny blue skies, warmer, but a little breezy, than my prior review from 12.03.19, the course conditions and Classic Club services were of the same well attending to their guests needs kind of place and the course was even better from just a week ago. The course wasn’t so wet from the rains and the greens were a hair faster.

Please read my prior review of this awesome course for more details.
I recommend this course to anyone looking for great fun challenging and fair test. It’s beautiful there, the layout is very good- no homes on the course. Freeway off ramp close. Definitely tour caliber and a quality course!
9 Likes.
12.03.19 10:30
Today was a cloud covered day all day without any wind. The temperature got up to high 60s which made the day very comfortable.

Starting with the staff when we arrived at the bag drop, we were greeted and welcomed nicely to get our bags on a cart. The check in At the pro shop was smooth and we were directed to the practice areas right away.

The range balls were nice and new Titleist (not pro v) but the grounds were noticeably soft but not wet or muddy and it carries onto the chipping area. The practice greens were medium to slow although it looks pretty and fast, it wasn’t fast but it rolled smoothly.

All of these characteristics would carry consistently to the golf course, except for the roughs are browning and were only an inch high and never becoming an issue for play. The bunkers were in good shape- plenty of sand, whether it’s a green side bunker or fairway bunker- yeah unfortunately I was in more than a few of them (ha ha), but the consistency were not the same- most were very good though some are still settling and had too much fluffiness. The teeing grounds have always been level and lush here and it was no different today.

Anyway, I realize that I may sound like I’m nitpicking, but this is a place where most every time everything is in perfect condition so I’m just spoiled by their own standards. The place looks great!

Lastly, the beverage cart came around at least five times even through we weren’t buying... she had a nice smile on each time though.

Great place- we’ll definitely come here again.
14 Likes.
11.24.19 with a 10:54 tee time just ahead of the skins group. Blue skies and 63* at best with very little winds ...and another great day of golf was had.

Despite the good weather, I still couldn’t fill the four some I reserved after two of the guys canceled so a single walker joined us but still made for a good pace of four hours. No rush just a good Sunday game with my guest from VCC who by the way were impressed at how the current playing conditions here at Rancho Vista. The greens were nice and quick- rolling much smoother than a couple weeks or so ago. The fairways were in great shape- only #10 was roped for cart path play which made the round even nicer. Bunkers sand were smooth and well prepared. Teeing grounds were level and lush. The rough wasn’t that high- maybe 4 inches but it was lush and thick making it difficult most the times I was in it. Staff were great and helpful- no bev cart on the course.

It’s good now, here, come play this course and enjoy the good playing conditions.
8 Likes.
11-10-19. 10:30am tee time.


It was a clear blue skies and winds were 3 miles an hour to none in a low 70s day- perfect!

The most noticeable are the green fairways and rough against the white sands in the bunkers- looks real nice.

The fairway over seeding takes place on different holes at a time making the process longer than it should. Even though we’re all able to play the course, no carts are allowed on roped fairways. Lots of water are being used so the whole course is soft but not muddy. The rough for the most part have been cut lower to about 4 inches- still tough but not as bad as a week ago.

The mowers have been lowered for the greens although it’s still a little bumpy from aeration, it’s clearly on its way to smoother and a faster greens.

The bunkers plays nicely in a couple i was in. The teeing grounds were level and lush.

Course is in good shape and will only get better from here on.
8 Likes.
October 19, 2019 LA City Senior Tournament.
It was a two day event to play both courses- a well ran tournament.

Both days were a beautiful conducive day for golf with a nice blue skies with temperatures in the low to mid 70s and a very light wind. No one had any excuses as for the weather. It was a great weekend.

Course conditions here on Wilson is better than the usual for the past ten years or so. The greens were smooth although it didn’t putt anywhere close to fast. It was spongy and receptive and easy to chip in to as ot didn’t roll much. If you can spin the ball, it will check easily. This is a much different greens condition than anything in the high desert, Las Vegas, or the lower desert- Palm Springs. These are not firm greens at all- it looks like bent grass not Bermuda grass also although I am not an expert.

Bunkers were filled with sand (thumbs up), the fairways were mowed close. Most had some roll and ran, some were over watered leaving muddy areas in puddles and some areas prevented the rolls- frustrating. The teeing grounds were fine and it was a pleasure to tee it near or on the markers. The kikuyu rough was not that tall although it was still tough to play from.

All in all it was a pleasure to play in.

The staff were great and helpful. The tournament committee were great although they dropped the ball from emailing a few people for the re scheduled tee time the following day, but no big deal. I’ll give it another chance next year.

Hopefully, the courses here would continue to improve their conditions. Although being it’s a city course I have my doubts but I hope I’m wrong.

(The current conditions of Wilson & Harding course are much the same @ this time)
7 Likes.
October 20 2019 LA City Senior Tournament.
It was a two day event to play both courses- a well ran tournament.

Both days were a beautiful conducive day for golf with a nice blue skies with temperatures in the low to mid 70s and a very light wind. No one had any excuses as for the weather. It was a great weekend.

Course conditions here on Harding is better than the usual for the past ten years or so. The greens were smooth although it didn’t putt anywhere close to fast. It was spongy and receptive and easy to chip in to as ot didn’t roll much. If you can spin the ball, it will check easily. This is a much different greens condition than anything in the high desert, Las Vegas, or the lower desert- Palm Springs. These are not firm greens at all- it looks like bent grass not Bermuda grass also although I am not an expert.

Bunkers were filled with sand (thumbs up), the fairways were mowed close. Most had some roll and ran, some were over watered leaving muddy areas in puddles and some areas prevented the rolls- frustrating. The teeing grounds were fine and it was a pleasure to tee it near or on the markers. The kikuyu rough was not that tall although it was still tough to play from.

All in all it was a pleasure to play in.

The staff were great and helpful. The tournament committee were great although they dropped the ball from emailing a few people for the re scheduled tee time the following day, but no big deal. I’ll give it another chance next year.

Hopefully, the courses here would continue to improve their conditions. Although being it’s a city course I have my doubts but I hope I’m wrong.

(The current conditions of Wilson & Harding course are much the same @ this time)
7 Likes.
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