Played this morning @ 7am. The course was in excellent shape, especially the greens, which were fast and undulating. I wondered to myself if the humps in the greens were made more severe when they closed the course a while back. Some of the greens and pin placements were treacherous. I love it when it's super tough. My putting wasn't exactly up to the challenge, but it was fun nevertheless. So, the greens were great (though a little soft in parts), the fairways were lush, but the tee boxes were another matter altogether. Close to half of them were tilted and many were in disrepair. This is odd considering that I played from the tips, which do not get as much play as the whites or the blues. That being said, maybe the groundscrew neglects the black tees because they are not used very often. Who knows the reason. Either way, too many tee boxes were bare and the grass was not mown closely. Other than that, it was a great experience. This is one of my all-time favorite tracks.

Played this morning just before 8am. The wind was HOWLING today. The course was in excellent shape. Greens were fast and firm. Sand in the bunkers was sparse, but not so little as to create a difficulty getting out. Indeed, there was some standing water in the bunkers, but only a few. I'm sure this problem was exacerbated by the big rain storms of the last couple of days. The fairways were lush and the grass was cut nice and short, including in the chipping areas around the green and the tee boxes. The wind made the front nine play really short, but the back nine was all into the wind except hole 14. On the front nine, the two longest par 4's, # 5 & 7 played extremely short (even from the tips). But the back nine was wicked. This course is definately worth $60. The customer service is pretty good and the facility is outstanding, including free range balls with the green fee.

Played nov.8 in the morning. I had never played this course, but had heard many good things about it from others. All of the good things I heard about were true. The layout is fantastic with several good risk/rewards holes. The greens had been seeded and recently and punched a little while back, but even the sand pebbles on the greens did not affect the roll of the ball. The greens were fast and firm. I put a good amount of spin on the ball and I was getting a little bit of release on the greens. Some of my partners who do not spin the ball that much had trouble keeping the ball on the green. The traps were a little bare, and we were constantly fighting off the grounds crew, but other than that, the course was in fantastic shape and is worth the money. This course looks very similar to the course that held the President's Cup in Australia several years back (2000 I think). It is a links-style course in that it's pretty wide open, but it also has some target golf aspects as well, such as forced carries. There are also a lot of waste areas. This is a difficult course to walk because you cannot walk in a straight line to the fairways in every instance. A couple of my playing partners were dead by the end of the round. Also, there are no signs on the tee boxes and no maps on the scorecard, so since it was our first time playing here, it was difficult knowing where the next hole was on a few occasions. This course's layout is not very intuitive. We ended up doing a lot of walking. The most interesting aspect of this course was the tightly mowed chipping areas around the greens. The grass surrounding the greens was so short, it was difficult to tell where the greens began or ended. This course also has very undulating terrain around the greens, so this made for some fun and challenging chip shots. Leave your flop shot at home and bring your bump and run.

had first teetime on 7/26. Course conditions were great. Everything was in pristine condition except the ball marks on the greens. The greens rolled really smoothly, but there were many old ball marks that hadn't healed. These were mainly cosmetic and did not really affect the roll. It's a shame to see such a top notch course not being taken care of by its patrons. What ever happened to the "fix three marks per green" rule. You get on a green, you look for other marks to fix including your own. Oh well. It was also very annoying that we saw at least three grounds crew members at EVERY STINKING HOLE. That really messed things up. There was one hole where 5 non-groundscrew members were standing on the green while we were waiting to hit our approaches. After waiting 5 minutes, we just decided to hit. When they heard the ball being hit, they scattered like crazy. It was pretty funny. The course was great; the grounds crew was not. For $175, keep the grounds crew as out of the way as possible.

Played July 11th early in the morning. The course was in very nice shape. The greens rolled true, but were a little on the slow side. It is always a pleasure playing this course. Played from the tips, but always seems to play a good bit shorter than the yardage. There was some "ground under repair" on hole #2, which really came into play off the tee, but other than that, the course was nice. This is a great course. My only complaint is that we saw multiple groundscrew on every single hole; that got a little old after a while. This course is beautiful, and is a great design, totally worth the green fee.

Played this morning at sunrise. The course was in pristine condition. They aerated the greens two weeks ago and they were rolling really nicely. You couldn't even tell they had been recently punched. This course is one of the best values in the L.A. area, especially for the price. A course like this in Orange County would cost two to three times as much. The only minor grip I have is that the tee boxes were a little shaggy. The greens and fairways were perfect. The "Babe" is a great layout; short, tight, and challenging. The most challenging thing about the course is the greens. Even after playing this course dozens of times, some of the breaks in the greens still defy belief. This course also places a premium on accuracy off the tee. The difference between the white tees and the blacks is like playing another course. My dad played from the whites; it was almost like cheating. Teeing off of the blacks force you to work the ball both ways off the tee. Some of the holes are very penalizing to the longer hitters. Some of the doglegs start around 270 or 280, so it requires a good bit of curvature off the tee on some holes. Holes 12 and 16 specifically come to mind. I love this track.

Played @ 7am. Course is in great shape. The greens were rolling nicely. They were just punched a month ago but I was surprised how nicely the putts rolled. The fairways were also nicely mowed and the grass was tight and even firm in spots (getting some roll was nice). I thought the course was about a 9 out of 10 today. I think the course conditions were way better than a year ago. They slightly dropped the price from last year (maybe a little less than 10%). Customer service is also very good. This is a must play.

Played yesterday morning at 8am. There were three of us, and of course, they put a twosome with us. For those of you who aren't familiar with Long Beach golf protocol and parlance, we locals call that a "Long Beach Foursome". In Long Beach, they don't believe in foursomes; they'll put 5 in every group no matter what. I'm surprised they haven't implemented sixsomes. Rounds here already last 5 and a half hours and sometimes more, so what would be the harm in adding another player? Sarcasm aside, the course was a moat. The fairway was indestinguishable from the rough; 3 inches or more in all parts of the course. The rough was even higher and thicker in parts, which made finding balls virtually impossible, even in the middle of the fairway. The bunkers, as typical of Long Beach courses, had virtually no sand in them. The one saving grace were the greens. They were in fenomenal shape. They rolled as pure as any greens I've seen. This is clearly due to the fact that nobody's been playing on them the last three weeks because of the rains. Rest assured, the greens will look tired and overplayed in a few weeks. It's too bad the American Golf "powers that be" aren't smart enough to close a golf course if the fairways are in such bad shape, that the groundscrew has to use chalk to show you were the fairway outline is. Just keep the course closed until it's decent to play. I know that the greens fees are cheap, but the course could have used this dry weather week to rest and be beautified by the groundscrew, not sloshed around on by hundreds of people. If yall want to see some good greens, get out here quick before they're gone!

Played on 1/4 at 10am. There was nobody there due to the rain. This course is one of the few values left in Orange County. It's only $30 to play during the week to walk. It was raining and windy all day, but the course drained well and the greens rolled nicely considering the conditions. I would say the two courses at Mile Square are a great value. Played the "Players" course last week and it was in good shape. I am a little partial to the "Classic" because I grew up playing the original Mile Square track years ago, when it was under $20 to play there. I like some of the holes from the "Players" because it has incorporated some old holes from the original 18 and has turned them from mediocre holes into fantastic holes. The "Classic" has more trees (with the exceptions of #'s 8 & 9 on the "Players"), and the "Players" is a little more wide open. I suggest the "Classic" because it's a little more narrow, especially the front nine. The new holes that were added to make the back nine of the "Classic" (#'s 14-17) are very wide open and feel a little more like the "Players" course than the "Classic". I think the designer didn't recognize this, otherwise there would be more continuity with these 4 holes and the rest of the course. Likewise with #'s 8,9,18 on the "Players" course; they feel like they should be part of the "Classic". Even though this course is a little scitzophrenic, they are great to play and they are reasonably priced. They are also in decent shape as well.

Played last Tuesday morning. We had the first tee time at 6:45. It was 27 degrees F, so obviously there was a frost delay. They say that was their first frost delay of the season, but I find that difficult to believe considering how cold it's been this Fall. Anyway, even though we didn't tee off until 10, they gave us the early bird discount as if we teed off at 6:45 ($30 only); that's a pretty good deal. So even though we had to wait 3 and a half hours, it was worth it to pay so little. Since we had the first tee time scheduled, they let our group tee off first instead of fitting us in after the later tee times had teed off; they did not have to do that. They are the only course I've ever played that has that kind of policy for frost delays. I was very impressed with the service because of this. The course was in good shape, better than the 6 point rating this website gives it. A few of the tee boxes were hairy, and the grounds crew was changing the pins at every single hole that we arrived at. That was extremely annoying! There also was no starter, so the group behind us teed off as soon as we were out of range, instead of waiting the perfunctory 8 minutes. Our group, and the group behind us were playing at the exact same speed, so naturally, they were on our butts pretty much the whole day except for a few holes. The greens rolled true, the rough was juicy. All in all, worth $30. Not a long course, so there are a bunch of Driver/wedge holes out there. THe two longest par fours from the tips, I hit driver/9-iron. That was the longes iron I had all day (except the par 5's & 3's). Give this course a try, it's not too difficult, so your score will be lower than normal, especially if your used to playing courses over 7,000 yards. It's the feel-good course of Southern California, and it's cheap.

Played on Thursday 11/11 at 7am. The course was in very good shape, but I wouldn't call it immaculate. The term immaculate should be useds when talking about "perfect" conditions. Don't get me wrong, the course was beautifully manicured, but it wasn't like Augusta or anything. I think the Champions and Legends across the freeway are in better shape than Oak Valley, personally. The course did not look like it was set up for PGA Qschool. The rough was short and the greens weren't very firm; nor were the fairways, which is odd because usually Tour events like firm fairsways in their setup. Either way, the course was in nice shape and played well, but not tough. I didn't have a particularly good ball striking day and shot 74 from the tips. I think the most challenging part about this course are the greens. Their subtle slopes and breaks are very deceiving. I give props to the greenskeeping crew at Oak Valley - keep up the good work.

played yesterday morning, second group off. I am a little biased because I remember playing this course for $50 during the week. Now that they've raised the rates by 40%, it's still a wonderful golf course, but they are getting a little greedy. The reason people drive so far away to play here is because it's a great course AND cheap. True, it's not as expensive as playing in O.C. where I live, but give it time. The area is being developed as we speak; they're building hundreds of homes on the course, especially the Champions. It's still worth the green fee, but not as much as it used to be. The course is superb, don't get me wrong, but the geographic area at this point does not warrant the constant increases in price. As long as the course stays under $75 during the week, it'll be worth the drive. Otherwise, I can drive the other direction and play Rustic Canyon which is under $40 during the week and it's in the top-20 of "best manicured courses" too. I love this track, though not as much as the Legends, but don't keep raising the prices guys. Not all of us can put the green fees on our Corporate credit card!