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Thanks to Johnny for setting up a fun GK event on a warm Saturday afternoon, and thanks to my playing partners (Eddie, Joel [c'mon, guy, join up!], and Ron) for a pleasant, enjoyable round. My course comments of 11/30 still apply, although our pace was a little slower than 10 days ago behind a walking threesome and a slowish foursome. We started on #5, and after making the turn back to #1 had to sprint to get finished ahead of the dark.

Good venue for the after-party, with plenty of room after overcoming the resort's confusion, and with plenty of service. Better situation there than the very noisy bar area with limited staff last time. Plenty of prizes and good cameraderie on the patio.

Even the discounted rate of $75 for this course seems a little too high for me given the conditions and design/challenge.
9 Likes.
Played with the GK Gurus on Wednesday, 11/29/17 – thanks to Steve, Bob, and Gary, a very relaxed group and enjoyable partners. We went out as the 2nd Guru group behind Johnny’s rabbits, and almost never waited on them, and rarely even saw the group behind us, finishing in under 4 hours.

I played the Champions course here for the first time at the GK event last September, and this was my first time on Legends since walking some of the holes watching the old PGA Tournament of Champions back in the 1980s (Watson, Trevino, etc.). This is a resort-style course, fairly flat with the opening holes on each nine playing downwind away from the clubhouse, and both nines finishing into the breeze, making the closing holes play tougher as the wind freshens. The course generally has small greens, and many have ridges and swales separating different portions of the greens, creating small target areas if you want to be aggressive with the pins. Blue pins were often found in small isolated areas of the greens and some were in red-light locations! The number and severity of the sand traps are less forbidding than at Champions, especially along the fairways. We played the Member tees (6,135/70.7/127) – there are no uncomfortable looks off the tees, and things are fairly wide open. Forced carries are generally only with short irons. The course was fairly wet to start; there was small-area watering going on in several fairways during the round and we had to drop away.

Some greens early in the round were very thin and had fairly large patched areas as well as a light dusting of sand, that looked worse than they played – greens were fairly firm but held shots, and all rolled at medium-fast speeds, and you had to be very careful of downhill runouts. We were also fooled several times by the amount of slope on some of the greens that affected lines and runouts; repeated plays would be beneficial to better know how to position shots and putting lines. Greens were badly holding spike marks on the front side; green turf improved on the back side and we didn’t have those problems.

Keeping with the resort vibe, fairways are fairly generous without as many confining traps and hazards as on the Champions course. Many holes have mature trees to be avoided, but options are easily available to avoid being blocked out. Rough was cut short and easily playable; there were some scattered wet/mushy areas to be avoided with carts or on foot, generally well off the playing line. Tees were all pretty level (we played White) with only a couple slightly crowned; there were no divot mix boxes on most par-3 tee boxes. Traps all had very good sand that was easy to play from; they were somewhat damp early in the morning.

There’s a nice interactive GPS on the carts, but distances are given to the middle of the green only, not the pin position; a yardage book is available. The course uses the entry/exit gate system for carts, which I think minimizes and better controls cart wear on the course margins. The range was on mats today; a large chipping area is also available. The practice green had a lot of slope – golfers be aware!

The course uses a red/white/blue pin rotation, but it’s not strictly followed. The “order” switched at #10, but the result was that the par-3 holes all had blue flags – the course needs to use their imagination to address this. There was no refill rack for divot sand; we finally cannibalized an infrequent sand box on the 14th tee to refill our bottles.

This is a nicely-conditioned course, and a relaxed fun play in good conditions. A stiff wind would make the finishing stretches on each nine much more beastly. The price we got for the Guru round was a great value – players would have to decide if rack rates are worth the cost.
12 Likes.
I’m not sure how much longer Los Serranos can keep flogging the “Course of the Year” award from 2012 – it’s all over the cart logos and banners in the parking lot. Conditions now remind me more of El Prado than Goose Creek.

Played on a clear hot Saturday morning 11/25/17, at 10am, paired with a traveling couple who found LS on GolfNow – we booked on the course site for $60. Much less wind than I’m accustomed to at LS made the day hotter, but wasn’t as much of a usual factor in shots. Overall, I was disappointed with course conditions. Greens had good coverage and held shots, but were very bumpy, rolling at medium+ speed that increased as they dried out. Fairways and rough were disappointing – you either got wet/lush growth or dry/hard/bare dirt. All fairways had scattered small and large bare areas. Balls in the fairway tended to sit tight, even where there was adequate grass cover. Rough was lush primarily around greens, but along fairways and (especially) under the numerous trees there was generally little to no grass, firm conditions resulted in balls running forever, and lies were a crapshoot. Some rough areas have been converted from grass to mulch. There are lots of sand traps here and they were in good shape, although local golfers are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of the rake. Many tees are sloping, and par-3 tees show lots of use (we played Blue). At least the course provides divot mix boxes on the par-3s – if only golfers would use them!

Basic carts. Range on grass today. Adequate water available. Snack shacks in operation on #s7, 13, and 16. Ponds fronting par-3s #10 and 17 have been removed since I was here 5 years ago, as well as the pond left of #12. We waited on most shots and finished in just over 5 hours – fairly typical for a weekend morning here. Saw one marshal who was not doing anything to move play. He did give us some refilled sand bottles on #10 – the refill rack on the 7th tee was empty.

Except for greens, overall turf conditions here are poor. There are numerous areas scattered around the course which are sloppy wet and badly rutted from equipment – I assume these are related to leaky points in the irrigation system, so there are lots of areas needing attention. Maybe some of that saved water can go to the dried-out fairway/rough areas that apparently get little water.
12 Likes.
Back out to my favorite course in SoCal on a clear, hot and breezy Wednesday morning, 11/22/17. I had an Underpar certificate that expired about a week ago and wanted to just get $$ credit against the green fee, but shop said I had to address that with UP. No tee time, so I just walked up at 10am and got a $55 senior rate, and wound up being paired with a threesome going off within 30 minutes, so no time for warmup. Course looked busy in the parking lot but our group managed to go off ahead of several other carts waiting up top. Carts are nice with well-padded seats and a good GPS system, and a club/ballwasher attached.

First time for me playing OQ in a Santa Ana wind condition, so many of the holes played very differently than what I’m used to here – tough par 4s like #s 7, 11, and 13 played downwind, really changing the way these holes are approached. I found myself having to hit quite a few wedges at odd yardages and having to factor in some strong downwind/upwind considerations.

Coming out of overseed everything continues to be very wet, including the bunkers – tees, fairways, and rough are wet and soft, but bunkers are pretty much unplayable(!) – wet with puddles in the bottom, sandy/muddy like new cement, really impossible to get the club under the ball in the traps whether in the fairways or (especially) around the greens. There was even some scattered small area watering in progress.

Greens were rolling medium-slow and pretty were bumpy, but were soft and receptive, resulting in very large ballmarks when we hit them – and there were not that many old marks. Fairway lies were generally OK and rough was generally pretty short - in areas that had been allowed to grow longer, away from greens and playing areas, mowers were active cutting in the rough areas. Tees were either shaggy long or bare/torn up, so they are needing a dry-out and mowing; many tees were sloping pretty badly (we played White) and need leveling.

Overall conditions are just OK, with bunkers being a huge negative. If the course needs to maintain everything in a wet condition to come out of the overseed (which is understandable), the bunkers HAVE to be deep-raked regularly to dry them out and make them be playable, at least. Otherwise, wait at least a couple more weeks for conditions to improve further.

We had a lower-skilled and slower group in front of us and we waited frequently, finishing in just over 4.5 hr. It’s really a crapshoot about who you are going to be paired with when you walk on as a single – our group included a father-son (~11) pair that was local – the kid really didn’t have any business being on a full-length course, especially one like this where elevation changes and hazard areas are prevalent. And the father was wild and all over the place, so for the entire round I was never sure where he was going to wind up, and the kid was running around back and forth to his ball. The older 4th guy was a regular here and very competent, but borderline rude with driving away from the tee even before we had all hit, or driving ahead to his tee shot while the kid was still moving up to the red box. Both were playing loud rock music in their carts (WHY??!!) but I really didn’t hear it except to the tees. As everyone knows I’m a pretty serious player, and these guys all had a very casual attitude (toward play, toward etiquette, toward divots and ballmarks, etc.) that really put me off – combined with the wild shots and the kid running all over the place, I really had difficulty maintaining any kind of concentration.

As usual, the 4th tee was really backed up – it’s a challenging tee shot to a narrow fairway, path-only all the time on this hole, etc. There were fewer water stations than usual with the end of summer conditions, so with the unexpected heat today I was pretty parched. The lakes on #s 10/11/12/13 are still dry (you can easily play from within the red stakes), with only #s 16/18 with water, and lowered levels there than usual.
12 Likes.
Second round of the SCGA Senior Net Championship on Tuesday, 10/31/17 – 7:30am shotgun. Warm-up in the dark, barely able to see your feet on the range mat. Another very crowded practice putting green(s). I hadn’t played here in several years, and many trees have been removed over that time, making what was a very narrow course in many areas much more open, giving you more confidence to be able to hit driver without worrying about encountering Robin Hood.

Greens were in better shape than Rec Park yesterday, as ED completed their aeration several weeks ago. Greens were fairly firm, smooth, and rolled at medium-fast speeds, especially downhill. Greens accepted shots and were the best part of the course. Fairways and rough were pretty short, and lies were tight and could sit down. Most of the rough was dry/thin and could be interspersed with bare areas. Sand was in good shape. Tees were generally OK; only a couple were sloping, but most were pretty wet and easily torn up just by softspike use.

Simple GPS and some other on-course markings. No yardage book available. Pace was pretty terrible - >5.5 hrs. Snack shack out at 3/13. I like this course more than Rec Park (but not as much as the redesign at Skylinks). Pace is always an issue here, but it’s a fun play.
8 Likes.
I played Rec Park in the first round of the SCGA Senior Net Championship – 11am shotgun start on Monday, 10/30/17. I’m in the Super Senior flight, but didn’t play so super – LOL. This course doesn’t set up well for large shotgun tournaments due to limited parking and smallish practice facilities. For 100+ golfers there are only 16 hitting pads at the driving range, and while there are 2 putting greens one didn’t have any holes cut or flags placed.

The course punched ½ of each green ~10/11, putting the pins on the unaffected area. So the affected greens had almost 3 weeks to heal. Conditions were generally pretty good on the affected portions – you could see where the small holes had been punched, and those areas were somewhat bumpier and slower than the unaffected portions. Fronts were firmer and rolled better – back areas were a little softer. Generally, greens had good coverage, accepted shots, and rolled at medium speeds. HOWEVER, the course punched the BACKS of every green, so when pins were placed for this tournament, almost every pin was a front (red) pin, so we spent the day with a lot of downhill quick putts on the front of those greens. [The fronts of the greens WERE scheduled to be punched today, 10/30. Fortunately, the SCGA insisted the course delay until after this tourney!]

Fairways and rough were fairly short, and lies were tight or could sit down. There were scattered bare areas in fairways and rough on many holes. Sand I was in was groomed and adequate. Tees were OK, with the usual damage on par-3s, and there were no divot mix boxes out. Most tees, however, were pretty wet, and even just the golfers’ soft cleats were resulting in damaged areas.

Simple GPS on the basic carts and there are some markings out on the course. Adequate water was available on this cool, cloudy day. Pace was typical for this type of tournament - >5 hours. To better level the field, tee positions on the 1- and 2-hcp holes (#6 and #10) were moved well forward. The SCGA provided dinner afterward, but the caterer ran out of food early.

Fairly typical Recreation Park conditions – OK, but it’s not my favorite place. [See: kikuyu]
12 Likes.
Enjoyed a pleasant round with GKer Itslikeimsayin at 11:16 am on Saturday, 10/28/17, on a warm sunny day with much less of the ocean breezes I’m used to seeing at AW. The course was surprisingly empty for a Saturday morning, and we went out behind several twosomes, trailing a few foursomes. We breezed at our own pace thru the first seven holes, but caught the train on the eighth tee and waited frequently thereafter – after a sub-2-hr front, we finished in just over 4 hours.

Greens were aerated about 2.5 weeks ago and are pretty well healed – there’s still some minor evidence of punching but in general they were fairly soft, accepted shots easily, and rolled with little bumpiness at medium speed. Most of the greens showed quite a few old ballmarks. Fairways were short and tight and gave good lies; we saw scattered areas where the fairways retained a lot of moisture from watering. Rough was generally pretty short unless you got well off line; in some of those areas we saw some muddy/sloppy areas. Tees were level and could use a mowing; par-3s and shorter 4s had a few scattered divots, and few tees had divot mix boxes. Sand is grainy and fairly heavy, especially early when it’s still pretty moist.

There’s a divot mix refill rack at the turn (up near the ball machine; the rack on the 10th tee was empty). Mark had a good and bad experience with his breakfast burrito. No GPS, but the course features both colored distance stakes, Kirby markers along the fairways, and some sprinklers are marked. Saw the cart girl 3 times, and a marshal came by to keep us updated on efforts to improve pace.

I like this course a lot and try to get down here frequently. Recommended.
12 Likes.
My monthly group plays at Lakewood just about every Fall, so it was time to head back on Saturday, 10/21/17, although I had missed last year’s outing. Wow, what changes! The cart barn, driving range, and parking had all been renovated, and changes are underway on the clubhouse. Good for them!

BUT – the course is pretty unchanged, including the abominable pace you always find here on weekend mornings. Despite the course being as UNCROWDED as I’ve ever seen it (the first tee was open for more than 20 minutes ahead of our tourney at 10am), pace was still terrible, and we staggered to the finish in ~5.5 hr!! Who has time for that??!! The shop put out a couple of foursomes just ahead of us, including some umbrella walkers, and we never got going, just chugging slowly, and waiting constantly. I think there were 4, or maybe 5, groups on the long par-3 12th hole when we went through there.

Conditions were favorable for more rapid play. It was warm and sunny with only a light breeze all day, not the more forceful breezes I normally encounter here in the afternoon. Greens had been punched and sanded a couple weeks ago, but were in decent shape, somewhat bumpy but rolling OK (esp. downhill!) and holding shots, so no issues there. Some of the greens still showed some evidence of punching/sanding. Fairways here are all pretty flat and lies were OK, with scattered thin/bare areas. Rough can be bushy/wet in spots (there are scattered severely wet/sloppy areas under trees and on the margins), but it’s generally cut low, and rough north of Carson Street is pretty dried out and firm. Tees are level and playable. Sand quality is variable – early in the morning there’s a lot of moisture in the bunkers, and some have mud masquerading as sand. Playing depth varies. But overall there’s nothing here to keep you from moving right along!

Many par-3 tees had no divot mix boxes, and those tees are pretty torn up. I didn’t see a refill bottle rack at the turn. Adequate water available. Carts are basic. Course has colored yardage stakes at 200, 150, and 100 yards, and some holes have fairway distance plates. The shop now offers a yardage book. With the all-kikuyu here, the course plays long, with a strong mix of par-3s and long par-4s.
9 Likes.
I was happy to join GKer itslikeimsayin when he posted a Meet-Play for Oak Valley at 1:52 on Sunday, 10/15/17, as I really like this track and wish it was a little closer to me so I could play it more often. As I found from my ongoing head-scratching at trying to hit these greens and get putts near the hole, repeated plays here are necessary to better appreciate the correct sides of the fairway from which to approach the greens, and to get more familiar with all the subtle movement on the greens and the best way to approach various pin positions. I generally like Schmidt-Curley designs, as I think their green complexes “make sense”, but there was definitely a lot more movement and green segmentation at OV than I remembered – just because you are “on the green” doesn’t mean you have a putt at the hole. Combined with this is the abundance of uneven lies throughout the course, as it plays out into shallow washes and back – a level lie, even in the middle of the fairway, is pretty rare here, so this also must be factored into shotmaking.

It was hot and windy, but not that crowded as we queued up behind a couple of foursomes. We waited only a little bit on the first few holes, then play stretched out after about hole #5 and we rarely even saw the group in front again, and weren’t pushed from behind. Early on we were concerned about the amount of wind we were seeing around the clubhouse, but once on the course it wasn’t as bad as we feared, and the Santa Ana condition made many of the longer holes play downwind. You had to factor in the wind in club selection, but it wasn’t punishing at all. The humidity was so low that I think the ball was flying better than normal – we had several instances where balls flew much longer than we anticipated.

Greens were in very good shape (subtle movement and all – LOL!); I thought they were smooth and rolled well at medium+ speeds. I did notice some differences in firmness between greens – some were very receptive (Mark’s approach plugged in place on the elevated #4 green), but others were firmer and you could get a stiff bounce. This pattern continued throughout the round, and you were never quite sure what kind of reception approaches would get. Green speeds were fairly consistent, I thought. These greens also have some pretty steep runoffs into collection areas that generally were filled with deep lush grass, making recovery chips challenging. The course uses a red-white-blue flag rotation, but they weren’t slaves to it today – the par-5s into the wind today all had red flags, making landing on those small green-front areas challenging.

Fairways and rough were generally in good shape, and could vary from dry/firm to lush/soft, depending on the vagaries of the irrigation system. We generally got quite a bit of runout in the fairways, especially downwind. Sand looked to be in good shape everywhere. I was in 2 fairway bunkers where the sand was fairly firm, though depth varied. The greenside bunker behind #15 was also pretty firm and could use more playing depth, but anyone who knows my sand game may be skeptical of any comments.

Tees were the most questionable part of the conditioning. We immediately noticed areas of distinct uneveness and/or sloping on the first few holes – they generally got better further into the round. The recent maintenance had left the tees with obvious post-punch patchiness, but finding a good spot was dictated by terrain, not foliage. Many of the par-3 tees had no divot mix boxes, and were pretty torn up, with #14 being especially bad. Some tees with divot mix boxes had no mix in them. And some off the shorter par-4s, where players might use an iron or a hybrid, could also use divot mix boxes. And just to add to the mix, many of the tee box surrounds appear to be the favorite hangouts of the local gopher population.

Carts are basic – no GPS (a yardage book is offered; some sprinklers are marked; and there are colored monuments in the fairways) or ball-washer, but there is a cooler. Restrooms on the course are very basic, and they had capped the sink in the men’s restroom on tee #6. There are no sand refills available at the turn or elsewhere, so many divots went unfilled. Water jugs on tee #6 and tee #8 were empty. The clubhouse was closed when we finished just after 6pm, so no bathroom or water before the trip home.

GKer Andrew1 had made some comments about this being a Dye track – I knew it was Schmidt-Curley, but Mark says he thinks they were both once Dye associates, so the bulkheaded lakes, mounding and deep runoffs, and inscrutable greens at OV make more sense if that’s true and they brought some Dye influence to the ambiance. Sorry to doubt you, Andrew! Thanks to Mark and Wendy for a very enjoyable round, and I definitely need to plan on getting back here sooner rather than later.
13 Likes.
Played in the SCGA Senior 4-ball Net Championship at RBI on Monday/Tuesday, 10/2-3/2017, teeing off at 8:30am both days. You’d think that the (I hate that darn) kikuyu warmup I had a San Juan Creek last week would have helped prepare me, but when the course staff throws in overwatered conditions, scattered and frequent soggy areas, and very soft greens in the kikuyu universe it just gets even more fun. The weather was mild, with alternating sun and some cloudiness – the 2nd day was very windy on the back nine.

The course looked good from afar, but was overwatered everywhere, resulting in big ball marks and gouged-out fur pelts on green approaches. Almost every shot resulted in a mudball. Other than that, the course was in pretty good shape. Greens had good coverage and rolled well at medium+ speed, especially downhill toward the main drainage running down the shallow canyon where the course is situated. Going away from the centerline putts were slower. With the wet conditions all the greens showed spike and shoe marks all day. Most greens had evident old and newer ballmark damage.

Lies in fairways were good, but rollout was reduced in the wet kikuyu; in the rough the playability varied depending on grass depth and whether the ball sat down in the cushy grass. Sand was adequately deep and playable, although damp from irrigation. Tees varied from wide and flat to narrow and slopy and domed. Par-3 tees, and shorter par-4 tees, were pretty damaged, and players were failing to use the sand refills provided.

Pace was around 5 hr each day – the SCGA used tee times on holes #1 and #10, compared to previous years when the start was a shotgun. There is a small range on mats a shuttle ride away. The putting green is small and pretty flat, and watered like the course, so it was showing a lot of shoe/spike marks immediately. Carts have a good GPS. Generally enough water available, but on the 2nd day water jugs were not out on #7 and #13 tees.

There are hazards in play on almost every hole, and offline shots can easily find trouble. Many holes have very narrow aspects off the tee to get into good position. My team held up pretty good for 27 holes, picking each other up when the other had a bad hole, and avoiding blowups, but it all came unraveled on the back nine Tuesday, and we couldn’t seem to stop the bleeding. To add insult to injury, a sprinkler came on as we were teeing off on #16, so we had to time our shots and hit quickly to avoid being soaked!

The 1-hcp 7th hole has a swale in front of the green that funnels drainage from a large area across just in the front of the green – as a result, this area is slightly below the green level and is always wet and soft. On a 450-yd par-4 with a small green, it’s impossible to bounce the ball onto the green, as shots just die in the thick wet swale in front. This needs to be addressed by a drainage change or some other solution to make this hole more playable.

This is a fairly nice course in a resort venue, but like many SoCal courses it’s really overpriced for the conditioning and facilities presented.
6 Likes.
Played at 2:20pm on Thursday, 9/28/17 – looks like I was a couple hours behind GKer leef2020. I’m playing in a tourney next week and I was looking to get some swings in around a packed schedule – SJH is scraping the bottom of the barrel for me because I just don’t get along with the all-kikuyu-all-the-time turf here, but it fit my needs for proximity, cost, and availability. It was a warm, sunny and breezy afternoon. You can’t book a single on their website, so I just showed up during a period when their site indicated they had several open slots – I paid $39 with cart and was joined on the 2nd tee by another amicable single Jacob, and we slowly moved along behind another casual twosome, joining them on the 7th tee and spending the rest of the day behind a very slow foursome, finishing just ahead of darkness in ~4:40. Didn’t see a marshal all day.

For all the kikuyu the course was in pretty decent shape. Tees were OK, with most being level. Fairways were thin and firm, but generally gave OK lies – I was in 2 divots(!). Rough was mostly fairly short and played OK; when the grass got a little deeper on green slopes and sidehills the ball tended to sit down in the grass and was chancy to hit from. There were some scattered bare areas in fairways and rough. Sand was plentiful in all traps (I was in several) and for the most part was heavy and damp – shots frequently stayed in their pitch mark or fried-egged it, making recoveries stressful. Only in one trap did we have dry, mushier deep sand.

Greens were firm, rolled at medium+ speed (esp. downhill), and were pretty bumpy as we went through the back nine. The set of par-3s here are challenging due to length and defenses. Holes 13-15 are the “new” holes here, added after flooding in the 90s took out several holes along the river, and these new holes are very narrow and constrained by topo and homes, and overall conditions there are chancy. Lots of unrepaired ballmarks and unfilled divots, and there were no sand refills available as we made the turn.
10 Likes.
I played in the Irvine City Championship at SF on Saturday/Sunday, September 16-17, 2017. I’ve played in this event about a half-dozen times over the years – they used to hold it on British Open weekend (bummer!!), but moved to the Fall last year to try to get more participation. This year they wound up with ~60 players in championship (scratch) and A, B, and C handicapped flights. We teed off around 7am both days under cooler, cloudy skies without too much wind. (There was a little more breeze on Thursday afternoon.) I also played a practice round (included with the tourney fee) on Thursday afternoon 9/14 around 3pm. This review reflects all three rounds.

Unfortunately for my low-ball-flight game, the lake on the back 9 is dry but the fairways are getting plenty of water. All fairway and rough areas were very wet both tourney days, and solid drives were still leaving me with long irons and hybrids into the longer par-4s. Fairway lies were good, and rough at 1-2 inches was fine, except in the finer-diameter stuff the ball sat well down and was hard to control coming out. Traps were in good shape, with good material in greenside traps and fairway traps being a little firmer. (Thursday afternoon fairways were a little drier and I had fewer distance problems.)

Greens were in very good condition, fairly firm, cut tight and rolling well at medium-fast+ speeds. Speeds were consistent throughout the course and over the several days, which was nice. Most greens had quite a few old ballmarks slow to heal. I made more putts than I usually do, which only partially made up for several wayward offline tee and other shots, which can cost you quickly at SF, and I had several penalty strokes. Maybe I was trying too hard to hit the ball further to make up for all the lost roll! (I think I’ll go with that excuse!)

SF has problems with some fairly small tee boxes being somewhat domed or sloping, so it’s sometimes a challenge to find a comfortable level area. Par-3 boxes are generally pretty torn up – some boxes have sand containers on them (which few golfers use, apparently!), and some don’t have refills at all. In general players are not taking good care of the tees. Either way the course staff apparently don’t get out to take care of the boxes very well – we saw Saturday’s destruction unfilled on Sunday morning.

There’s a new pro at SF now, as Tom McCray has moved over to Laguna Woods after 15 years. I didn’t get his name, but we chatted briefly about the tourney and course conditions after the second round. My flight winner amazingly shot his best score ever on Saturday – a 10-handicap dropped a gross 74 on SF from the blue tees. Er, okay. Not that I was anywhere within hailing distance!

Still recommended, but watch out for the high rack rate!
7 Likes.
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