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Played today with John_T with a 10ish tee time. Thanks to abbacat for offering her free 2some certificate, and thanks to Troon and Johnny for offering it at an event.

Such an incredible change in conditions from summer to after reseeding in fall. Tee boxes were in pretty good shape, some divots on the tees. Fairways were spectacular. The new grass has grown in nicely, I could not find any thin dirt areas at all. Rough is bermuda that is starting to go dormant, so some laid down areas, some tufts of standing grass. Bunkers were the worst, which has always been a weakness here. I was in one with some heavy sand, but another which was thin and hard packed. On to the greens. This summer (and last summer too), Aliante lost about half of their greens. They were basically hard packed sand greens with no grass. HOWEVER, the grass has returned and the greens were in phenomenal shape. Almost all smooth, medium speed, with no signs of their horrible summer condition. I was told they will cut them a bit shorter next week to speed them up.

Customer service was outstanding. Easy check in wit the certificate and they threw in a small basket of warm up balls. Starter told us to check with him after warming up and he would get us out early. Drink cart around a few times each 9 and grill was open with great prices. Felt like we had the course to ourselves (except for a maintenance guy or two and the drink cart) as we putted around in under 4 hours.

Aliante holds a special spot in my heart since it's where I played when I started this game. It is a residential course but houses are out of play as long as you're not too wide right/left. At $45 for residents ($70 for visitors), Aliante is a steal right now.
Back out on AP's Mountain course on Friday, 10/20, with an 8am tee time. Course has been out of re-seeding for about month and off Cart Path Only. Paid $45 with the OB Sports Card.

The new grass has come in great, except for a few spots scattered across the 18 holes. Nothing major, some some thin or muddy areas, no bigger than 10x10 on a few holes. Rough was about 1-2 inches, just enough to give you a bit of a fit to hit out. It appears they did some bunker work too, as the sand was a nice consistency, better than the pebble hard packed from a few months ago. Greens were in great shape, medium fast, but some unrepaired ball marks.

Customer service was awesome. They had a large tournament set to go off on Palm at 8 and all the staff was hustling to make sure everyone was taken care of. Outside staff was great setting us up and getting us out. Pro shop was quick with the checkins and the bar/grill area was busy but no problems getting some pre-round refreshments. They had another group set-up to go out as we were finishing. Extremely busy day with no problems for the non-tourney players.

Starter got us out a bit early as a 2 but we joined up with the 2 behind us on 4 since we were all waiting. Finished right at 4 hours with the group ahead pulling away from us on the back.

Another great day of golf in Vegas.
Played on Friday, 10/6, at 7:45a with John_T, a buddy from work and his brother. I booked it through their website and was shown $40, but paid $36 at check in. The course feels and looks very "old school," and fits in with the quaint feel of Boulder City. It has a full size grass driving range and decent size putting green.

Course had just completed some "spot re-seeding" a few weeks earlier. Tee boxes appeared to be Bermuda starting to go dormant, short and dry, but flat and relatively divot free. Fairways were in good shape, with some bare areas at the start of the fairway, but the normal landing areas were well covered. Rough varied in length and could swallow up a ball in some places. Bunkers were in great shape with almost fluffy brown sand. Greens were awesome. Soft with a medium to fast pace. They can't have them too fast since they're is some severe slopes on some greens.

I loved the course. The first 5 holes are back and forth and tree lined. They feel narrow off the tee but are wider than they appear. Starting at 6, you skirt through residential areas that are mostly out of play with plenty of big trees to protect them. There's a handful of water hazards. Course is straight forward and flat. You can get in trouble if you're not straight off the tee. The challenge is around and on the greens. Most greens slope severely back to front, at least one with a 6 foot drop. They are also protected with bunkers that have a high face towards the green.

No drink cart, but you pass the main snack bar at 5 and pretty close to at 10th tee. There is also a snack shack at 13th and 15th tees. My only complaint is carts do not come equipped with a cooler, but they give you one if you purchase $10 in beverages.

I will go back. While it's not a destination course if you're visiting, it's a nice change from desert courses if you're local.
Played on Friday, 9/22, with a 9:30ish tee time. I paid $65, which is the rate as a guest of a PACC card holder.

Just OK service considering it's Paiute. Dropped the bags at the drop and they were set up on the cart how we asked. Pro shop guy did not say a word outside of telling me the price. Starters were good. They were running behind (there were 2 groups on the tee when we pulled to the starter) and apologized. Drink cart was around twice per 9, and snack shack after 9 was open, even though I took the last hot dog, which wasn't really hot. Pace was 4 1/2 hours. Bartender afterwards was pretty good and the patio provided a great view.

Course was typical Paiute though. Sun has been out of maintenance for a few weeks. Course was spectacular. Nice tee boxes. Fairways were in great shape, 100% coverage and lush. Rough was about 1-2 inches, just enough to cause a problem. The bunkers were awesome. Nice, fluffy sand, probably the best I've seen here. Greens were running on the fast side and smooth as glass. A little firm and not many ball marks.

I love to get out here as often possible but I'm going to have to go as a guest, $65 is the top of the budget for weekend golf.
Played today with an 8am tee time, made at the last minute on Thursday afternoon. We paid $29 residents rate. Staff is what you expect from a Troon course. I was met in the parking lot and my bag was taken out to the driving range where John_T was already with the cart. Rich the starter (great guy!) asked if we wanted to get out a few groups early with another 2some, since we would be a 2some stuck behind some 4s if we went out on time. Gladly jumped at it and finished in 4:10 with no one in front, and a 2some stalking that did not want to pass through.

Course was in almost great to bad shape. Tee boxes were fine, level, some divot damage. Fairways were great. Starting to dry out for re-seeding, but still lush with plenty of run. The rough was brutally thick and deep, up to about 4 inches in some area. It was great that if you ran off the fairway, you would not run through the rough and into the waste areas, however, there was a 50/50 chance you found your ball. I found 2 from previous groups just feet from the fairway.

Now to the bad. Similar to last summer, Aliante has lost 6-8 greens, which were heavily sanded. Starting with #1, which was brutally damaged, they gradually became better and by 6, they were pretty good. The back 9 also had about 3 sanded greens. The greens that were still in good shape, ran fast and in really good shape, but those others were really bad. Bunkers were hard and heavily packed, almost like hardpan.

Just like last year, I hope the greens grow back during re-seeding and I hope they figure out how to keep them in the summer. If all the greens were as good as the ones still alive and kicking, it would of been a great experience. Hold off a visit until Fall.

**Rating came out to 6.2, probably due to great fairway/rough numbers, overall should be closer to 5-5.5.
Played Saturday, 8/12, with a 7ish tee time. I made the tee time late on Wednesday using their website for $40 and a clear warning the course was in "summer turf transition." I took that to mean the annual dying out of the bermuda to prep it for the winter rye seed. Usually that means dry straw like grass. What we found was huge areas of hard pan dirt (actually mud, but the course can't be blamed for a monsoon that blew through last night). I think I hit off the hard pan at least 7 of the 14 par 4 and 5s. Two holes had all the tee boxes grouped all the way up (11 and 9) as they laid sod down on the other boxes. A handful of greens had their collars in various shapes of repair, from hardpan to new sod. All the tee boxes were shaggy with some divot damage. The bunkers were all hard packed mud (again, due to a summer monsoon that dumped a lot of water in a short amount of time). I was surprised none of the bunkers were filled with water.

On to the positive: The greens were in great shape. Relatively smooth and running at a medium speed. John_T and I opted for the golf boards, which were $10 instead of the usual $25. Customer service was good, from check in to the cart guys to the starter. Only saw the drink cart once on a very hot, muggy morning, and that was on our 10th, after we stopped at the restaurant for drinks. Carts/boards do come loaded with 2 bottles of water. Carts appeared to be new, with dual USB ports, and a GPS system that shows the position of the group in front of you. Slice 19, their bar/grill, was a great stop afterwards, with good food and local breweries on tap.

Overall, I liked the layout of the Ted Robinson Jr design. The 18th really stood out, with a chance to catch a big downhill off the tee, leaving a short pitch over water to green with a waterfall on one side. I know many like this course, but the conditions disappointed me today (even though they did warn me). I will give it another try, but will be waiting until at least November to allow the grass to grow in.
Played on 8/9 with the other Gurus. It was my 2nd time here, and just like the first, a phenomenal experience. From the time you ring the buzzer at the gate to getting back in your valeted car with your bags already loaded, it was incredible.

The course was in great shape. On the 1st green, I was a little worried with some burned out edges, but the rest of the greens were in good shape. They were medium speed (listed as 10 on the starter podium) but they are prepping them for the Cascata Amateur this weekend. Tee to green, the grass was in good shape for the amount of constant heat we've had this summer. Just a few thin areas sprinkled across the 18 holes. The rough was a thick bermuda, where if you took a drop from the desert, the ball sunk all the way down, almost better to hit out the desert. The bunkers were the downfall. Firm, hard packed, and rocky, the only blight on a perfect picture.

Our caddie Mike hustled between the four of us all day. If someone walked up to the green with some extra clubs and dropped them to putt, they were in his hands before the handle hit the ground. His yardages were spot on and gave excellent reads on the green. Just a friendly great guy.

Loved it the 1st time, loved it this time. I hope there's another.
Played Saturday, 7/29, with a 9ish tee time with John_T. Paid $36 with the OB card. Course was busy hosting the 2nd day of a tourney on the Mountain course, having played Palm yesterday. Fast check in, grabbed a cart, and off to the matted range. Starter paired us up and off to the 1st, where we got started about 10 minutes late. Round lasted 4 1/2 hours, with the group 2 head falling a hole behind by 9. Marshall let us know, but didn't move them along. Worse part was only seeing the drink cart once on each 9, but the snack shack around the 7-10 triangle was open.

Conditions were almost great for the dead of summer. Tee boxes had some damage on the Par 3s, and some were really soggy from over watering. Fairways were spectacular. Probably 95% lush, and the thin areas were still very playable. Rough ranged from barely higher than fairway to about 2 inches. The 2 green side bunkers I was in were complete opposites, 1 hard packed, 1 fluffy. Greens were pretty good. Lots of ball marks on the shorter holes. Speed was about medium, probably the slowest I have seen them. Tee to green, I had no real complaints, almost great conditions especially for the price.

I've forgot to mention the new carts they received about 6 months ago. No GPS, but dual USB charging ports. I usually don't use the cart GPS anyways.
Played today with John_T, his dad, and brother in law for $59 at 7am. Spanish Trail CC opened in the early 80s as an exclusive neighborhood club with 27 holes designed by Robert Trent Jones Jr and served as one of the courses for the Vegas PGA Tour stop for a few years. The club was strictly private, but has opened for public play in the past 10 years or so. No reservations on their website, need to call for available tee times. Played in 4:15, no one in front, and a foursome behind us that would be close on one hole, then disappear for 3. Did not see a lot of groups out.

Customer service matched the private club atmosphere. After checking in at the guard gate, you pull into the parking lot where you can use the manned bag drop or valet your car. If you park first, they drive out and pick up you and your clubs. Walking around the clubhouse and locker room, I was greeted by everyone, from the employees to the members. Drink cart was around 4 times during the round.

Large driving range with practice balls ready to hit. There was also a nice putting green and a separate chipping/bunker area.

Course was in dog days of summer condition but still very good. Course was very wet in some areas, making it humid with no breeze. Tee boxes were all level and I can not remember seeing divots. Fairways had some brown and thin areas, but mostly lush green manicured grass. The rough was brutal. Thick, gnarly, just get it out and back in the fairway in most areas. Both green side bunkers I was in had fluffy sand and appeared to be in good shape. Greens were awesome. Appearance wise, they showed signs of lot of unrepaired ball marks growing back, but they were fast and smooth as glass. Overall, I think it's an easy 8 (or higher) out of 10.

Definitely one of my favorites now and will be back to play. Price was high compared to summer rates around town, but worth it for me.
Played 36 holes with John_T and his dad on Friday, 6/30, for $49 resident rate (booked through their website) which included a free replay.

I have been to Coyote Springs 4 other times and it has never disappointed, and today was no exception. Overall conditions were bordering on excellent. Tee boxes were lush and level. Rough was about 1-2 inches in most places. Bunkers were pretty good, with no rocks. If you were the first one in, it appeared to be packed, but once racked, they were slightly heavy but nice to hit out. Fairways showed the signs of the brutal 2 week heat wave, with some brown areas, but they played fine, kind of like dormant Bermuda. Greens were excellent. Medium-fast and smooth, receptive, and not firm.

This is my favorite non-high dollar (Wolf Creek, Cascata, etc) course. Very tough (white tees: 6215/70.2/139) but fair. Wide fairways, Nicklaus signature green complexes (bunkers, multi-tier greens), and some hard par 3s. While it is tough, it's also fun. No 2 holes are the same and plenty of opportunities to make a memorable shot.

Definitely a must play if in the Vegas/Mesquite area, and may as well take advantage of the free replay. Good customer service, beverage cart around every 3 holes, free water placed in 2 spots that you pass twice.
After finishing an early 18 on Mountain before 9:30, decided to make it an unplanned 36 hole day. Paid a $20 replay rate and was on Palm by 10, finishing around 1:40, stalking a 4some after 6, but never wanting to pass. In all, 8 hours, 36 holes, $53, a great day even with the high winds.

Again, Tee to green side was in good to great condition. Green, lush fairways. Rough about 1 inch or so. Ok, decent sand in the bunkers. Greens show the result of the recent punching, large sand filled holes, running slow. They should be good in a few weeks.

Palm is more fun compared to the challenging Mountain. A little more chances to take a little risk with greater reward, especially on 2 of the Par 5s. There's a couple of long par 4s, but more short holes than long. You can't relax on the Par 3s, they will cost you shots. Overall, a perfect nightcap on a 36 hole day.
Played Friday, 6/9, with John_T, at 5:46a (!), paying $33 with the OB card. Paired up with a local and his buddy as the 3rd group out. The first two groups disappeared and we finished in just a shade under 4 hours.

Course conditions were great, except for the greens, which were punched a few weeks ago. Fairways were spectacular, very lush, no thin areas. The rough is growing back, about 1 1/2 to 2 inches now. Sand was typical of AP, and most desert courses, a little thick, with some rocks. The greens though were the bad part. A handful, especially 1 and 2, were really bad. Very thin in areas, borderline horrible. The other 10-12 greens were pretty good, in need of a rolling, but coming back nicely. Hopefully they can work on the others before the heat really kicks in.

Price wise, very happy, but those greens made it difficult. The placement on #4 (which I've never seen in 60 plus rounds) was ridiculous. Middle right, just before the tier up to the back. Anything to the side and above rolled almost to the front fringe, about 15-20 feet away. Wait a few weeks, then head out.

**it shows I rated it a 7, definitely not that high right now, greens were a 5 at best, averaging between the good and bad**
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