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Arroyo Trabuco Golf Club - $$
26772 Avery Parkway • Mission Viejo, CA 92692 • (949) 364-1881
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L_lucky - La Mirada, CA
Our foresome tee'd off at 8:18 am, on Labor Day, 9/1, and the fairways are in excellent condition, the tee boxes are nice, and most of the greens were in great condition. There were some brown spots on a couple of the greens, but it did not effect the roll. The layout of the course is nice offering views on a lot of the holes; however, expect some undulation on some of the holes. This is definitely a fun course; there's OB surrounding all the holes, making it more challenging, yet fun because of the generous fairways.

Posted: Monday, September 1, 2008
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tcbackus - Stanton,CA
Played Sun 8/17 afternoon...pretty dead on the course. Bad thing was we only say the cart girl 1 time the whole day..and that was on the 4th fairway.
Make sure you stay on the fairway...or the OB is going to kill you and the Fairways,while green, were still very hard in some areas.

Posted: Monday, August 18, 2008
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ating02 - Redondo Beach, CA
Played 4/27/08. It was hot today.

Course is in ok shape. Fairways are tight, brown and dry. They were trying to keep them wet on this hot day but it resulted in muddy patches when the carts were on the fairway. Greens are still a little shaggy from punching. Rolling bumpy and slow.

At $90+ on a weekend, still pretty pricey for this quality.

Posted: Monday, April 28, 2008
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jhock23 - San Juan Capistrano
Awesome course designed by Tom Lehman!

Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2008
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weber - coto de caza
I want to be fair, given the fact we are in the middle of winter and have had periods of no rain and then lots of rain. Also lots of days with frost. That said, I know the fairways are dormant here, and that allows the ball to roll and roll, but they are sure tough to hit from such a tight lie. Even the lady we play with who plays on the Future's Tour thought the lies were too tight. The greens were NOT good. Too bumby! Really difficult to make anywthing with the greens being so unsmooth. Generally the greens here are much better, so I hope the weather is to blame. Still had a great time. The staff was wonderful.

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
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ppilvinis - Rocklin, CA
Other than the long time it took to play the course was in great shape and was very challenging. The pace was not the courses fault as there were a couple of groups playing from the tips that did not have the quality of game for the extra yardage.

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2007
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jcalabre13 - Mission Viejo
I just played at Arroyo Trabuco a few hours ago. It's Sunday and the pace of play was very good. I think that the green fees are a tad high at $95. If they cost was $75, I'd play here rather than Shorecliffs or Willowick (which are cheaper).
The staff was great and very frinedly.
I'll certainly be back. With a better price, I'd be back more often

Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2007
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PowerFade - Corona
Played 36 holes on 9/27. They're preparing to punch the greens so they were pretty soft and saturated which really affected the afternoon round. Too many footprints and sanded ball marks. Afterward, cart dude said the greens were rock hard and not holding a little over a week ago, so that might be their normal setup. Can you say ESA??? They are in play on every hole. If you tend to hit big tee shots offline here and there, check your club selection. I recommend a yardage book, the GPS is the little text box type but does give yardage to the stick. A few holes had fairways at a 40-50 degree angles from the tee so the book really helps (so does a nice powerfade). Nice layout through the arroyo then the barren hills. They have water coolers every few holes at the white tees, not the blues. The turn is at the furthest point from the clubhouse but the cart girls came around plenty of times.

Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2007
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Scotty - LBC
Played twilite 8/14 and worth the $52 greens fee. Course plays more open then appears from the tee, but the close-in "environmental areas" can mean plenty of lost balls. However, it plays as a lateral hazzard. Drop zones are not always well marked. Greens are large and sloping. While the greens were slightly sanded, they played true but very firm. Will come back soon as this is the best priced quality public golf in course in the OC.l

Posted: Friday, August 17, 2007
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xalaskan - Nipomo
Nice course for the price, we played after 3pm it was $55 and we got our round in just under 3.5 hours. I would golf thier again, however not much to look at.

xalaskan

Posted: Friday, August 3, 2007
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mcantos - lake forest
Maybe its just me but I didnt think there was much grass in the fairways the ball runs another 20-30 yds after the bounce. On the first tee box there were divots all over the place why I don't really know. Secondly, there were all kinds of divots marks on the green. As we played, the tee boxes were not as bad as I thought, but the greens were hammered with divots marks. Doesen't anybody fix these marks at this place? The greens are also very firm. Not really fast, but not slow. The course played ok, I just did not care for it. I guess you really don't know what the course is like untill you play it. It is in a nice setting but a little overpriced, in my opinion.

Posted: Thursday, August 2, 2007
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jbet44 - Ladera Ranch
Played in the afternoon on 5/12 for the first time. The course is in excellent condition throughout. The problems with the course remain solely with the players who do not repair the greens or fill in fairway divots...It's a real shame. The POP was a little over 4.5 hrs, would have been quicker except for the beginners in front of us. Overall an exceptional course that is challenging...you must hit your spots! Would reccommend.

Posted: Monday, May 14, 2007
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esherwood1 - Laguna Hills
This course was in great condition and is challenging but at the same time a great course to play.

Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2007
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weber - coto de caza
Showed up and was told they did not have my tee time?? They asked if I had played on 4/17/07 - no! They advised that Weber was a no show that date and the address and credit card number was not mine, so that person was charged. Back to my problem, they did not have me down and no openings until 3:12. Unacceptable, however since it was obvious it was their error, they "worked us in actually ahead of schedule" due to I guess another no show? Kudos to the staff for correcting their error! The course, well as anyone who plays here knows, thin rock hard fairways that run forever. Decent greens, still recovering from recent punching. Overall the course was in Ok condition.

Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2007
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sngernz - Palos Verdes
Played for the first time on Sunday and ... well, let's just say it's not the first OC course on my list, but not the last. Kinda so-so. Layout: short course considering the roll you get on the short/dry bent grass fairways (see previous comments); super large greens with pitch marks everywhere; some twists and turns to keep you awake. Condition: fairways were marginal, at best, but the tee boxes were excellent. Greeens were big, not too difficult to read. Challenge: lots of balls roll back into the middle of the fairway or on the green when they should not. Wide fairways, too, you can't help but score well (see previous comments). Altogether, ok to play with buddies and drink a few beers but if you want a quality golf experience try some of the other more challenging courses in the OC. Might try it again in the spring when/if the grass turns green ... or not.

Posted: Monday, April 23, 2007
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carvedaddy - Laguna Hills
Played on Sunday 4/1/07 at 3:00 PM April fools...no I really did play the course. Drove the 10th green. I heard it was possible if you keep it left and it hits the hill right. The greens are sanded and filling back in. Made for an interesting day of putting. I think by this weekend after they roll the greens it will be in good shape. I wish this course was less crowded. I enjoy the layout and the conditions are better than the other local courses like Shore Cliffs and San Clemente.

Posted: Thursday, April 5, 2007
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dtpara - Laguna Niguel
Great fun course. A bit pricey. Need to run specials!

Posted: Monday, March 19, 2007
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frivas22 - Carson, CA
This course has a great layout, and is a fun track to play. The overall conditions were good, and as stated before, the greens were pretty hard. Puts rolled true and smooth. The traps were in great condition, which I unfortunately found out a few times. Tee boxes were in excellent condition. Even the par 3 holes had great tee boxes. Customer service was great, with everyone providing the level of service expected at a course of this price range. Cart girl came by around four times, which was probably the most I've seen in any course. Pace of play was 4.5 hours. Overall had a great time, and really enjoyed the layout.

Posted: Saturday, March 17, 2007
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rkhickman - Rancho Bernardo, Cal.
my favorite Orange Co. course

Posted: Friday, March 9, 2007
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weber - coto de caza
The prior reviews are correct, the dormant thin fairways allows the ball to run forever. But for a change of pace, that's fun! Nice to have those extra 20-30 yards, even if there not really because of how well the ball was struck, That said, the course is fun to play! The greens were good, but way too slow for my taste. It may not be the best track in town, but hard to walk away and not have enjoyed the experience.

Posted: Monday, March 5, 2007
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tattooedgolf - mission viejo
This course is not worth playing... The green fees are out of control, if you can hit a drive low and 200 yards, it will end up porbably about 300. The fairways all slope on both sides toward the middle. This course will make you feel great when you look on your scorecard, but when your hadicap drops quickly, you will be upset when you go to a real golf course and your handicap makes you lose a lot of money

Posted: Sunday, March 4, 2007
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Played 2/26. I'm not a fan of this course, but got invited by my neighbor who loves it cuz the fairways are dead and so his drives roll a country mile. Fairways were just that; hardpan and dead. Greens were thin and hard. #5 was covered in an inch of sand; a crew of six workers were working on green #6, standing in middle of green as we hit approaches (hit one of them, ooops) and chattering and still working as we tried to putt. The only redeeming quality of this course is the pulled pork bbq afterwards. It is a nice setting with no homes on the course, but the conditions DO NOT warrant the $65 fee. And, everywhere you go there's somebody lookin' for a tip. They wanna carry your bags from the car. They jump on you before you even stop the cart at the end to clean your clubs, then they do a worse job than my 6 year old would and grimace when you only give them a buck. C'mon folks, it ain't pebble beach. As I've always said, Tijeras is in better shape (and cheaper with Creek Card) and San Juan Hills is in even better shape than here and half the price. No sour grapes. Just dont' think it's worth the coin.

Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2007
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Flying_Fossil - Irvine
Played here for the first time on 2/26 and enjoyed the course.
It is fair and interesting. The greens are a tad testy the first time around, slower than I expected and a lot of subtle breaks that are not always easy to see.
There is no rough to speak of. Every fairway is lined with environmental terrain, so keep it in play or bring a few extra balls. For the most part the course is right there in front of you and very playable.
The fairways although in winter dormancy, are in good shape and you get some roll here.
I will be back mid May to mid June and see the course in its new spring/summer colors.

Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2007
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carvedaddy - Oceanside
Tuff winter conditions. I am surprised that the course can get this wet and muddy considering it is in the canyon. Nice layout, but is $$$ and can get backed up later in the day.

Posted: Tuesday, January 2, 2007
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Bpoc - RSM
I played here last Saturday and I must say that I will not be back till the Spring time when the grass grows back. I play here all the time and love the course but once again they chose not to overseed the course and the fairways and rough are dormant, which wouldn't be a problem usually, but now that the price is $96 it is definitely not worth that price to go and hit off of super thin lies all day. If you love to play thin lies than this is the place for you to go to. I'll be back in the Spring.

Posted: Thursday, December 21, 2006
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rayneman101 - Torrance
Great course for the money.....greens are fast even with the unrepaired divots. Fairways are dormant Bermuda grass this time of the year and very hard. If you can keep your ball in play....you will get a lot of roll on these hard fairways. Still a very enjoyable course ...challenging but forgiving enough for most golfers.

Posted: Sunday, November 26, 2006
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Course is very close to my house, but don't play here much cuz it's tough to get on and the greens are just too hard and full of ball marks. Conditions were fine. No rough to speak of, thin fairways, get lots of roll for sure. Traps were either wet and hard, or nice fluffy. No consistency. Good pace of play. Lots of workers driving around in 'suped up jeep type carts. At times it was like playing on the freeway there was so much cart/maintanence traffic. Also, a group was doing an environmental survey; driving around in carts without any idea of golf etiquette. They have hoses set up with moveable sprinklers on many fairways. Overwatering lots of spots. I'd rather play Tijeras. Also, it was inevitable. They sucked everyone in a few years back when they opened with $55 green fees. Then it went to $58. Well, starting Sept. 4th green fees go up to $65. That's a big jump. Get the creek card at tijeras and you can play a much better conditioned course for $50!

Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2006
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Itslikeimsayin - Mission Viejo
I finally played Arroyo Trabuco for the first time today. The fairways and tee boxes are in excellent shape but the greens are a little questionable. There seem to be an abundance of ball marks and other imperfections on many greens. The greens also roll much slower than they look like they will, and slower than the practice putting green. Overall, though, this is a very nice layout and a pretty good deal for the price. Keep the ball in play here -- there are lateral hazards (environmentally sensitive areas that don't allow you to search for/find/play your ball) on nearly every hole (possibly every hole). The $3 yardage book in the clubhouse is a smart purchase, especially if you're playing here for the first time.

Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2006
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chria - Los Angeles
Played here 7/30, teed off at 8:45am, second time I played it but the first time was about two years ago. This course has a nice layout, tough but still fair, although a yardage book would come in handy if you don't play here often, simply because there are a fair number of blind shots and the GPS doesn't feature a hole map. Has anyone else noticed that, with the exception of the first par 3 that is quite long, all the rest of the par 3's play between 160 and 175 (from the blues, considering up or downhill)? Still a great course, but I was a little perplexed when I pulled out my seven iron for the 4th time to tee off on a par 3.
The course was a little soggy when I played, especially the greens, which were having a hard time healing from ball marks (many of which were not fixed, so not their fault). The fairways and tee boxes were very well kept, though, and I think this course is a great deal for the money, compared to other OC golf courses.

Posted: Friday, August 4, 2006
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rayneman101 - Torrance
First time playing here today....what a wonderful layout. Not the best course to pull out your new driver and use it for the first time since you have to clear some distance off the tee box to get to the fairways especially from the Blue Tees. The greens were smooth other than a few divots and rolled pretty true. There was a lot of watering going on around the course and alot was done early in the morning. So when you got near the greens, there was no roll if you landed the front of the green. This course had some very long Par 3's too. I will definitely come back to this course....well worth the money! This course is challenging but yet not as tight and narrow as a lot of other courses....this was a very enjoyable round. Next time will probably be more fun since at least I now know the layout.

Posted: Monday, July 31, 2006
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dlsnake - Laguna Hills
Played Fri. 07/28/2006. Teed off at 3:25 pm. Course was in great shape. greens were nicer then the last time I played. Thanks to those who fixed their ball marks. Greens are soft and very receptive. The ball will roll out a long ways so make sure you aim in the right spots. Nice breeze from Dana point to cool us off. Tee boxes are in great shape. Always a pleasre to play.

Posted: Monday, July 31, 2006
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jaime1958 - Anaheim, Ca
Great course!!! Go out and play it.

Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2006
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jaime1958 - Anaheim Ca,
Great golf course, it was my first time playing and I must say. It's worth the 58 dollar green fees. Greens were in great shape, nice lay out of the whole golf course. Wish that I could have a played a little better, I will be going back to play it again.

Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2006
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code7km - torrance
good course for the price. course a little dry due to heat

Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2006
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Bpoc - Santa Margarita
Played here on 7/16 and the course is finally starting to fill in due to them not overseeding for the winter. The fairways have grass now and aren't as hardpacked as they have been for the past few months. Still no rough anywhere. this course doesn't really need it though. It has all the arroyos and canyons to make it more difficult. This is one of my favorite courses for sure. The only real problem is that there are a couple of guys in the Pro-shop that are real A-holes. They make you feel like you are bothering them when you walk in. As if the $88 greenfee wasn't enough, they treat you like you are annoying them. Everything else about this course is great. The rest of the customer service here is great. The Restaurant and Bar are absolutely incredible. This is a must play course, just don't let the pro-shop guys ruin your day.

Posted: Monday, July 17, 2006
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darocketman - Lake Forest, CA
Played on Monday 7/10. The course is in great shape. Fairways are green and cut short. Not too much rough here. Course slopes right to left on most holes. The greens are medium. I would have preferred faster greens. There are some animal damages on some of the greens about the size of a ball divot but much deeper. You can tell something was digging at those spots. We we waiting most of the time due to a slow group ahead of us. Overall, it was definitely worth the $58.

Posted: Thursday, July 13, 2006
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rdrc1 - Huntington Beach
I have never seen Arroyo Trabuco as described by swbkrntom - Or CO. This is the best layout of any golf course I've ever played that is built into foothills. Only the 6th hole has an approach to a green that is well above you. This course is not for the weak hearted player although they do have very generous tees for all skill levels. I am a 6 handicap who loves this course. It has long and short holes, holes that bend right, holes that bend left, water holes and my favorite a 495 yard par 4 with lots of trouble on the right. If you like the challenge of moving the ball both ways and fast greens this is your track. I play this as often as I can. The driving range is one of the best conditioned in SoCal with an onsite (on the driving range) club repair service that changed the lie of my irons in just 15 minutes. The only negative is there is no chipping area-a common problem in SoCal. I hit less than 60% of my greens making the sand wedge chip one of my most frequently used clubs. We need more places to practice chips to greens.

Posted: Monday, July 10, 2006
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dlsnake - Laguna Hills
Played 07/03/2006. Twlight time at 3:20pm for $58. First off PLEASE FIX YOUR BALL MARKS!!! That is our responsibilty as players. Nothing is worse then to have a wonderful course ruined by their clients b/c some of us refuse/forget about fixing our ball marks. Maybe it's new to you that you finally hit the green in regulation but please act like you've done it before and fix your ball marks. Ok, I kinda went off on a tangent, back to the course. Absolutely worth the cost at any time. For O.C. the conditions and surrondings are a bargain. Fairways have little to no rough so make sure you account for roll. Otherwise your ball will roll into the environmentally sensitive areas or OB. Nice cool breeze coming from the south helped with the drives on most holes. Finished in about 5 hours but it was a holiday/weekend, sort of. Fairways are a little hard but definitely not dried out. Greens would have been great except for all the aforementioned ball marks. Great course and layout, will be back often.

Posted: Wednesday, July 5, 2006
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tommyturbo - laguna beach
Absolutely beautiful course and surrounding area...Gps was great as were the golf carts...and cart girls.Cant say anything bad about course must play again...Club house is great to...coming back soon...suprised its feedback score is not higher.

Posted: Monday, June 19, 2006
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swbkrntom - Or CO
Played yesterday, started out good, all the staff were very nice and professional. After that the trouble started. Got to the range and found it to be terrible, all dirt no grass, minor inconvenience. To the starter, no carts available, finally get cart and go to the first tee, first 2 holes went easy and that was all. 5 1/2 hours later we finish. Overall a nice layout, but fairways were like hardpan, bunkers were poor to fair (didn't help that no one appeared to have raked them). Greens were all torn up, ball marks, holes etc. Paid $ 80. 00 for this, I don't mind paying for good golf courses, this isn't one of them. One last note, 5 some in front were playing from the back tees and constantly on cell phones, beside the fact they couldn't hit the ball out of their own shadow, they were just plain slow. Ranger tried to get them to move a little faster.....NO DEAL. Nice layout, close to home, won't go back.

Posted: Sunday, June 18, 2006
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coronagolfer - Corona, CA
Nicely routed and designed course with "firm and fast" conditions. Most all greens have a "safe side" which allows a runup type of shot if the player wants to exercise that option.
Only a couple of layup holes so players get to hit driver on most all of the par 4s (influence of Tom Lehman on the design?)
Lots of "environmental hazard" areas but generally they only come into play if the player misses the shot badly. Great value for the green fee (under $100 on the weekends) - nice staff that is very friendly and helpful.

Posted: Sunday, May 21, 2006
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noeldaof - Palmdale, CA
All in all, the course is a good links style course and not bad for $88 on a weekend. There are no fairway roughs. The fairways are wide. There are no tree lines-- there's nothing to stop your ball from going to places you shouldn't be. The fairway grass, I think, are bermuda, cut nice and low. So for those of you who likes the ball sitting up nice on a tight lie, you'll like this.

Also, than often, I find many players don't rake after getting out of bunkers. In Arroyo Trabuco Golf Club, most people do not or don't know that they have to rake after getting out of it.

Pin Position: That day, it indicated #3. It was OK for about 6-7 holes, then it's a guessing game if it's middle or back. Front was obvious, of course.

Service: What is with those guys at the pro shops? You walk in and check your self in, you give greetings, they don't even look at you. Their extent of courteousness for their customers starts & stops at a smug "Yes?". Almost the same as the guy in a little booth at Wilson/Harding in the 90's. I thought those days are gone... He's back! 'Hope that's not a trend...!!!
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Then they have a starter outside. He thinks he's contributing to the course by being a smart-A** and being funny. (great job! what a waste of time and money!!!)
I guess there goes the saying everyone is different. Yyyuupppp... They're different!

Posted: Monday, April 17, 2006
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pumphrey - Carlsbad, CA
Went off at 6:12 on March 15 and finished in 3.5 hours as a three-some. Not sure what people are whining about re: this course. Tee boxes are immaculate. Sure, the fairways lay dormant right now but in no way are they dead and brown and like linoleum. They're simply tight, forcing you to trap your iron shots which you should be doing in the first place. Greens are recovering nicely from recent aeration - one of the few courses I've played in SoCal with minimal ball mark damage. Only gripe was the greens were a bit slow, but they putt really true. Be prepared to hit 'em straight - every fairway is bordered by environmental hazards on both sides, meaning you can't fetch a wayward tee shot. Iron off the tee (even from the blues) is a good call on many of the shorter par 4's, especially if you haven't played here before to know how tee shots will roll out. Can't wait to play here again now that I have some "local knowledge" - what a great track for the price on a weekday!

Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
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okada_paul - Foothill Ranch
We played on Sunday, 2/26. The only green things on the golf course were the tee boxes and the greens. The fairways are all brown - they didn't overseed once again. Dead fairways let the ball roll a long way - some of our drivers were pushing the 300 yd mark after the ball rolled about 75 yds. This is OK if you are hitting it straight but you are just as likely to roll through of off the fairway into some of the numerous lateral hazards. Another major problem was coot poop on several greens located near water hazards. The coot problem made these greens almost as brown as the fairways. I won't be going back here until I they fix the course.

Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2006
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danadutcher - oceanside
This is one of the best layouts in southern california. What a shame that such a great layout has such poor conditions.

Posted: Saturday, February 25, 2006
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scott402 - cerritos
Played on 2/18... Very good course at reasonable price except its fairway condition... Grass is dead and feels like your hitting off a rock.... Would love to play another round when the fairway gets better..

Posted: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
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melnick - Rancho Palos Verdes
When this course opened it was super, now the conditions are just awful. The fairways are like playing on linoleum - all the grass is dead and the fairways are very hard. Difficult to play near the green as any miss causes the shot to be skulled. Brown grass all over - this would be an embarassment for a muni course, not acceptable for an 'upscale' semi-private layout.

Posted: Thursday, February 9, 2006
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NutNButCup - Buena Park
Played on Friday, Feb. 3. The overall condition of the course is good. The the fairways tend to roll balls into collection areas which creates areas with plenty of divots. The fairway grass is dormant and cut tight allowing plenty of roll. The rough is non existant. The greens are in great shape and firm so you must land short of the hole. The course is fairly wide off the tees and friendly to players of all levels. On holes 6 and 10 put away the driver or you mighy hit it through the fairway. On hole 18 drive it down the right side of the fairway because drives down the left may catch the slope and run into the water. The $78 dollar green fees Friday-Sunday are not the best but $58 is worth it Monday-Thursday.

Posted: Monday, February 6, 2006
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no3putts - Dana Point
not real happy with the overall condition of the course. blue spots on some greens, fairways so-so, and tee boxes the same. love the course, but hope it gets back to the conditions it should be. cart girls and staff were good.

Posted: Thursday, February 2, 2006
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bderman - San Clemente, CA
Hard fairways allow ball to roll giving greater distance to most shots. Many fairways slope to center (nice!) Greens are big. A favorite of most golfers I've played with.

Posted: Thursday, February 2, 2006
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DavidBarron - Aliso Viejo
Played Sunday, Jan. 30. Only the second time I've played there, last time being Spring of last year. The conditions this time were much worse than last spring when conditions were great. Played with a member who said that for whatever reason, they didn't overseed this winter. Fairways were brown, divots all over the place, and greens were not in the best shape. They must have given all maintanance workers the winter off! Definately won't play there again until the spring...especially for $88 on weekends.

Posted: Wednesday, February 1, 2006
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skboyer - Fullerton
Great course. Eventhough it beat me up, I liked the layout. This course has links style faiways and chipping areas (really tight), so your ball striking must be crisp. This is a tricky course so you have to play it a few times to know where not to hit the ball.

Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2006
Member Since: July 11, 2003
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Played today, 11/4. It's a dramatic setting. Got out at 8am. Not very crowded for a Friday. This course is worth $58 during week, but not the $78 Friday rate. Greens were "okay." They are very hard and hold nothing. Fairway grass is very short, which always produces very tight lies. No real rough to speak of. They're fertilizing the tip tee boxes and the whites, so only the blues were available and they were pretty beat up from overuse. I still think Tijeras Creek is a better course.

Posted: Friday, November 4, 2005
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weber - coto de caza
The course has recovered well from the aeration. However the greens are rock hard and the fairways are also firm and fast. Makes the course play very short, but tough to stop the ball on the greens. (Don't get above the pin over the greens) Always enjoy playing here! A fun track!

Posted: Wednesday, November 2, 2005
Member Since: December 4, 2002
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jdcantu - Dublin, CA
Played Arroyo Trabuco last month and while the course is fairly short, even from the tips, it is a fun challenge. The first hole conditions are not representative of the rest of the course as the 1st hole fairway and green are a bit chewed up. Once out on the course it is a pleasure to work around the canyons and forced carries presented by the back tees. Greens are true and run about 10 on the meter. The clubhouse is a real treat and Sunday brunch after your early morning round is excellent! Highly recommended. A real gem.

Posted: Tuesday, November 1, 2005
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rgrod - Mission Viejo, CA
Played on Thursday the 22nd ---- Course is in good shape and the greens are finally softening up a wee bit. If you get to the 7th hole in an hour and a half you’ll get a $5.00 certificate to use at the course --- this is only on Thursday. What they didn’t tell us is there would be no senior discount --- Oh well……. I talked to one of the greens keepers and he said they would be aerating the greens on October the 4th.

Posted: Friday, September 23, 2005
Member Since: April 19, 2003
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Drbob424 - Mission Viejo, CA
Played last week and even though they raised their green fees from $55 to $58 it's still one of the best bargains in southern Orange County. The course is in great shape, except for a few soft spots on a few of the hole. A challenging but fair course with the different tees placed very fairly to make it playable for golfers of all abilities. Great views, good greens, and a fun layout. Pace of play was under 4 1/2hrs. Worth checking out if you've never played there.

Posted: Wednesday, September 7, 2005
Member Since: October 21, 2004
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lkmckin - La Mirada
Played 9/5. First time I played this course. From the whites, it's a short course, a little quirky. No rough at all on the course, which makes errant shots scamper for the hazards. Fairways are of the "tight" variety, but soft enough to take a smooth swing and divot. They had the pins set up for "tournament" difficulty, most within 12 ft of the edge of the green, behind the sand, on the steepest slope on the green, etc. In good shape, with only a few dried out or dead areas, and even these didn't affect play. Only complaint: they use the silly "front/middle/back" pin placement guides. This can be deceptive when your "middle" placement is on the extreme edge of a green you cant see (uphill approach). Would be better to have pin placements that show region of the green, not horizontal strips. GPS already gives you distance to pin. Would play again, 4:45 round.

Posted: Tuesday, September 6, 2005
Member Since: July 26, 2005
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bkgoat - anaheim
good course. putting speeds are variable by each hole

Posted: Friday, September 2, 2005
Member Since: January 12, 2003
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
No complaints. Nice course for the money. Greens are average, but getting better at holding shots. Not much rough, so the course isn't very penal. Drives will roll forever. Great pulled pork sandwich in grill.

Posted: Tuesday, August 30, 2005
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mvpump2000 - Mission Viejo
Nice course! Each fairway is on it's own, not hitting from the other fairway here. Either you're on or in the bushes. Quiet and secluded, the only distracting thing here is the dog kennel on the hill, the dogs never stop barking. I would recommend this course to anyone. Keep it in the fairway and have fun.

Stay late for dinner or a few drinks in lounge, great setting on the patio by the fireplace.

Posted: Saturday, August 27, 2005
Member Since: July 7, 2005
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grrblue - Laguna Hills
The course is playing fantastic! And the guest service can't be matched in any other So Cal public course I have seen. Be honest - when was the last time you had a course marshal help you find your tee ball in the weeds, instead of warning you about holding up play? Just one thing is wrong, and it's not their fault. Ball marks on the greens. Golfers, come on! If you are good enough to hit the green from more than 30 yards, you MUST find and fix your mark!! And fix a couple more while your buddies are putting (for those players who forgot).

Posted: Monday, August 22, 2005
Member Since: August 3, 2004
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davep663 - Huntington Beach
Course is in great shape from the #1 tee box to the 18th green. This was the first time I played Arroyo Trabuco and definitely not the last.

Posted: Tuesday, August 16, 2005
Member Since: May 12, 2003
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nortelcell - Carlsbad
Very nice course...Personel is excellent

Posted: Sunday, August 14, 2005
Member Since: August 11, 2005
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sprovpam - Torrance
Enjoyed this course very much. Teed off earlier than our time. Will definately go again! I'm kind of a new player so my beer was $1.30.

Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2005
Member Since: July 31, 2005
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weber - coto de caza
The more I play, the more I enjoy this course! I find it very "friendly" and can put up some preety good numbers. Course is in nice condition. The greens are just now beginning to soften to the point where you can actually spin some shots. Staff is always polite and helpful. Wish some the nearby "high-end" courses would look at this course as an example.

Posted: Monday, July 25, 2005
Member Since: December 4, 2002
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
I've played this course half a dozen times in the last year (since it opened). We knew it'd happen....THEY'VE RAISED THE GREEN FEES ($3 TO $58). Minimal, but probably just the beginning of many more to come. It is a wonderful setting. Fairways are hard so you get tons of roll. Greens still immature so they hold no shots. Bunkers were many times mud from overwatering of course in general. Nothing wrong with course, but I prefer Tijeras Creek. One thing I will say...make sure you know where pins are. Sign at starter said they were in #2 position, but on holes 6 and 7, the pins were not in the number 2 position. Killed my approach on #6 (blind up hillshot on three tiered green) which i left on lowest tier, cuz that's position #2, but the pin was in back of middle area of green which was a whole 'nother tier higher. NOT POSITION #2. Oh well.

Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2005
Member Since: March 28, 2003
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patow - Ladera Ranch
short but you have to hit it straight or there is a lot of O.B.

Posted: Friday, July 8, 2005
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weber - coto de caza
The more I play this course, the more I enjoy it! Course is in generally nice shape. Under 4 hours is about the right pace for mid morning 4 some. No complaints here!

Posted: Friday, July 1, 2005
Member Since: December 4, 2002
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benchoi - Irvine
so so

Posted: Friday, May 27, 2005
Member Since: March 13, 2005
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DarkHorse - Encino
Played 4/30.
This is a very good course that has the challenges and the risk reward for great shotmaking around the course. Had a very comfortable tee time in the mid-morning on a Saturday and were able to breeze through the round, except for the short par 4s which seemed to cause the groups ahead to play poorly.
Was impressed with the layout and design and pleased by the overall condition of the course. Greens seemed a bit too hard and I found the bunker sand to be of great quality (and I found them too often).

Posted: Friday, May 6, 2005
Member Since: August 4, 2003
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fomeen - NYC
Played 4/26. The course is great except the fairways could use some grass on them. Beautiful views,glad I didn't see any rattlesnakes or mountain lions. And could someone please shut up those annoying dogs!

Posted: Friday, May 6, 2005
Member Since: March 25, 2005
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lulee - LADERA RANCH
MY FAVORITE COURSE IN O.C!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thursday, May 5, 2005
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sbrown - Fircrest, WA
Played 4/27 from the tips after a nice, heavy morning rain. The staff said the 17th fairway looked like a river instead of a golf hole earlier that morning. However, we found the course a little wet, but certainly playable. Enjoyed the layout and the green fees were reasonable for a new course of this quality. Excellent par 5's, some monster par 3's and one very solid par 4 on the back. Only two poor par 4's put a black mark on the design. Looks like the architect ran out of room or lost interest on a few holes. Found the greens to be fine, especially for new ones. After some poa takes hold, they'll repair quicker and the ball marks won't be quite the problem. If folks would repair their marks it wouldn't be a concern anyway. Staff was very professional. I'll play it again and recommend it to others.

Posted: Monday, May 2, 2005
Member Since: April 1, 2005
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tofccoach - Tustin Ranch
This course is a great layout. It's callenging yet fair to the average golfer.

Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2005
Member Since: March 12, 2004
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bluedragon33 - mission viejo
The best course i've played at, it was awsome very nice people really nice course you got GPS in the carts which will dif. shave strokes off. If you were thinking about going do it.

Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2005
Member Since: April 8, 2005
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rtbackatya - Costa Mesa
Players be worned: this course is still very new and has very hard fairways (almost drove the 1st hole - 350yds from the blues!) and greens. That being said, it's a nice course. Great layout. Service was great. Tough to handle the fees often, but still nice. The wind can be a huge factor and the elavation changes need be factored as well. The greens are tough to hold since they are still so new and they are very grainy also. The practice green is nicer than the course's, so keep that in mind. Overall, in time it will be a great tough course.

Posted: Monday, April 4, 2005
Member Since: August 20, 2003
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marklkincaid - Santa Ana
Played here on March 5, 2005 after not playing course since it opened. The course has matured nicely. I was not impressed with the fairways and the greens were rock hard. Plays like a links course so aim at the front of the green and the ball will run (and run and run). Service is great and the course is a good value for So. County.

Posted: Monday, March 21, 2005
Member Since: January 13, 2003
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fesdwino - Laguna Niguel
Played the member/guest tourney. Given the rain (today too!) the coure is in good shape. Little standing water, everything was draining quickly due to the good design. With the wildflowers in bloom the normal coastal scrub was transformed into a beautiful oasis. Greens were in good shape (aeration starts soon) and the fairways reasonably green. Traps were in good shape. I always enjoy playing here and the food is superb.

Posted: Saturday, March 19, 2005
Member Since: May 6, 2004
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KGB - FOOTHILL RANCH
COURSE WILL BE AERATING 3/20-22 W/SMALL PUNCH HOLES & SANDING PER STARTER.

Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2005
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ASP317 - LAKE FOREST
Played AT on Sunday 3/13. We got off right on time...$55 for twilight and we finished easily. Lots of employees doing everthing like a quality club. GPS on the carts helps because the course is tricky. Fairway lies are tight and the ball gets a lot of roll. Beautiful setting and a good test of target golf all the way with a lot of variety and greens that roll well but will surprise you your first time. Shot 84 so the first beer was $.84 cents. Good time.

Posted: Monday, March 14, 2005
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Bpoc - Rancho Santa Margarita
This is truly a remarkable track. Upon arrival you feel as if you have left the city completey and are transported back in time before the crowds of Orange County. The golf course is absolutely beautiful with its natural rolling terrain, canyons, and lakes. Every hole is unique from one to the next, with no side by side holes on the entire course. Hit it straight or you will be going to your bag for a new one, because there are lots of beautiful arroyos and thick fescue grass on this beautiful track. The 18th is truly a great finishing hole with its par 5 over water and all down the left side. A risk reward hole to say the least. Awsome track and by far one of my favorites. A must play, and for the $$ you definatley cant beat the quality and location.

Posted: Sunday, February 6, 2005
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rgrod - Mission Viejo
Nice day at Arroyo Trabuco. Started out very slow and by the fourth hole the Marshals were out in force and took care of the matter. At the sixth hole a few Marshals stopped by and apologized for the inconvenience and gave our foursome each a sleeve of Arroyo Trabuco logo golf balls ---- Avery nice gesture and most importantly, of course, they took care of the problem. Since they have GPS on the carts you’re being tracked, and if you start running a little slow they know who it is, which is a great tool for the Marshals. The course is in good shape and the greens are running about 11. The staff was very nice and helpful. Arroyo Trabuco has the feel of a country club but at affordable rates. For seniors (60 +) $45.00 with a cart and GPS. As a side note, your first beer at the 19th costs you what your score was. If you shoot an 82 it costs you .82 cents ---- What a deal --- Try their Trabuco Pale Ale --- Very smoooooth.

Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005
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18aday - san juan capistrano
employees where very rude!!!

Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005
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miguel - irvine
the most interesting course I have played in orange county.

Posted: Monday, January 17, 2005
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Course didn't sustain any damage. The lake between 17 and 18 is twice as big now, which means 18 fairway is super narrow! Some standing water in middle of 18 fairway. Greens were pretty smooth. They didn't overseed, so everything is brown/white except for the greens. It's pretty rough around the edges right now, and not because of the rain. No rough to speak of. I'd play aerated courses like tijeras or san juan hills right now.

Posted: Thursday, January 13, 2005
Member Since: March 28, 2003
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SPBeachleys - San Pedro
I played Arroyo Trabuco today and fell like this course is on track to be a really great deal. It has the layout and the price is right. The combo of price and the condition of the golf remeinds me of Rustic Canyon. Finally, an OC golf course that is affordable and in championship form.

Posted: Wednesday, January 5, 2005
Member Since: December 12, 2003
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kendall - walnut
Played 12/9,course is in great shape, a fun layout with some holes easy and some tough. A good test, in a tourny, staff was very helpful. A fun day, we will go back.

Posted: Friday, December 10, 2004
Member Since: April 25, 2003
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weber - coto de caza
Except for the 5 1/2 hours it took to play, everyone in the group loved this course. (First time for the other three people) The condition was very good, and the layout of the course is wonderful. Well priced! Maybe the other "high-end" tracks should take a look at this course and take the cue that more expensive isn't always better.

Posted: Friday, November 19, 2004
Member Since: December 4, 2002
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fesdwino - Laguna Niguel
Great track, very firm as it is a new course, excellent driving range - all grass, no chipping/sand practice area, great food and clubhouse.

Posted: Saturday, October 16, 2004
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hoover - Newport Beach
One the best values in SoCal

Posted: Tuesday, October 12, 2004
Member Since: October 21, 2003
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scgolfer13 - Tustin
I came back and played yesterday and the greens are putting just as true as any green. Yeah they are a little bumpy but putting very true.
The shop staff was wonderful and very informitive, again. They went out of their way to explain that the holes in the greens were about a golf pencil diameter and that they had been cut and rolled. What a class facility. Looks like customer service is not dead.

Posted: Monday, October 4, 2004
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dpnorman - Dana Point
cmm62 and scgolfer13 you guys are so missing the point! T25452, GENEGOLF, and Eburris1 are simply pissed off that the course did not do a better job communicate to them that they were aerating the greens. It’s called respecting your clients and it’s obvious that AT didn’t do that well enough this week so they are catching flak for it. It’s funny that the course would use a sudden change in weather to justify the short notice to aerate the greens. I’ve golfed in Orange County for the last 14 years and never heard that one.

Posted: Saturday, October 2, 2004
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scgolfer13 - Tustin
Just b/c you complain enough to your next round comped does not mean that you should tell everyone that there is a huge communication problem with the staff at AT. I had no problem getting the fact the aerifaction had happened from the staff. I never have had a problem with the greens being to hard to hold shots, however the greens are pretty firm but have always held good golf shots. Congratulations on your great round of 79, but the fact remains YOU missed those putts not the greens. The holes in the greens weren't 3/4 of an inch and the sand is all but gone. Any gripes at this point are really mute there is nothing anybody can do now.

Posted: Saturday, October 2, 2004
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Nobody is badmouthing the facility because they're taking care of the course. The complaint is they were trying to hide the fact from us ( wouldn't even mention it as we paid). To me, good customer service is letting your customers know if the product won't be up to what the customer would be expecting. How would you like to buy a car over the phone, then when you show up to pay it only has three wheels?! I'd say over 50% of the courses in So. Cal offer some type of aerification discount, or at least let their customers know when they're aerating. That's also the whole purpose of this website. To inform golfers so they can make an informed decision on where to play. And, yes, I shot a 79 instead of a 75 because four putts bounced offline or stopped at the last minute because of 3/4 inch holes and 1/8th inch of sand on the greens. We applaud AT for taking care of the course. We love the course. And upper management took care of us. But, we also have many choices and we want to make informed decisions on where to play. Especially when we're entertaining other excellent golfers and we've talked up the course with them.

Posted: Saturday, October 2, 2004
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ccm62 - Irvine
It's funny to hear all of you bad mouth the course for caring for the course. They are trying to provide you with a great place to play. So what if they worked on the greens, do you really think they did that to give you a bad time. I can understand if we all shot 65 and the greens caused us to 80, but the truth is we play this game for fun and not for a living, get over yourselves. I would like to thank Arroyo Trabuco for being a golfer freindly place. The staff and course are great.

Posted: Saturday, October 2, 2004
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GENEGOLF - Mission Viejo
A disappointment to arrive at the course and find the greens to be in the aeration process. No information when tee times were made. I understand it was a last minute decision because of the weather change(?).
We were offered the opportunity to cancel without the normal cancellation fee. Nice offer, but we came to play golf.
Fees could have been adjusted or future play for a reduced fee could have been offered.
Could and will be a nice course. Please communicate with us!

Posted: Friday, October 1, 2004
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Also, beware...they say they charge $25 for each person who no shows in your party. So, if you make a time for four and only three show, they're gonna charge you $25 for the person who didn't show. That's ridiculous! Fight them on it if they try and hose you on that one!

Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2004
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
We ran into same problem as last post re aeration. Made our tee time only a week ago. We always ask if they're punching and were told no when we made the time. Then we arrived at the course to find out they'd punched on 9/27 and 28. BUT, only way we found out was the proshop guy was writing a huge note to employees on a card to tape over the phone presumably so they could tell people they'd just punched (they won't be overseeding this year). In any case, proshop counter guy said "not the thing you wanted to hear, huh?" DUH! We had guests from Germany who are used to playing Riveria, etc. Embarrassing! In any case, no way they should be charging full rate. Greens were punched with 3/4 inch holes and completely covered with sand AND fertilizer. In any case, we were stuck, and screwed! After our round, we went in to politely complain and suggest they should do something to make it worth our while to return. Counter guy in proshop could have cared. His response was "what are we supposed to do? Call every person who made a tee time?" They claim they punched short notice cuz of the sudden change in weather? Uh, watch the weather channel! In any case, got nowhere with guy in proshop BUT, luckily, there was one person in the clubhouse who understands something about customer service. Head of Ops popped out of his office and apologized profusely. And, get this, invited us all back to play on Monday for free! Right on! We were very polite in our complaint. Politely told them we have our choice of courses to play and that we chose to come to their course, only to find substandard conditions. Conditions they weren't even going to warn us about before we teed off! Also told them we post on this site and that it wouldn't be to their advantage to have people bad mouthing the course on this site. So, free golf on monday! Although I'd wait 3 weeks or so to pay to play here til the greens recover. Funny thing though...greens have always been rock hard here (new course problem) and didn't hold anything. Today everything stuck! Course, most of the greens looked more like sand traps. They really poured on the sand and fertilizer. Hope I don't come down with some weird disease from the chemicals!

Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2004
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Eburris1 - Laguna Niguel
Played today 9/29. Course is being aerated!!! Got my tee time 2 wks ago and ask about aeration because my friend is in town for a special round. They said no plans to punch the greens on or before my date. Arrived at the course & the clerk said they punched the greens Monday (27th) but had been sanded and were not bad....we got out there and they were horrible, not only punched, but loaded with fertilizer, constantly being watered, and they had a sweeper running over half the greens as we approached. Bad experience, especially since I had checked before I chose this course for a special time with a friend I hadn't seen in 3 years! I was totally embarrased! How can a golf course charge for a round when you end up playing in a total maintance situation? Plus why didn't they let you folks know the condition of the course so your clients would know, I checked at the end of last week for your alert.

Posted: Wednesday, September 29, 2004
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Great facilities. Nice course. Conditions aren't the best. It'll be interesting to see how they nurture the course through the winter. Greens were FULL of ball marks. Doesn't seem like management is making much effort to help the greens heal. Fix your marks!

Posted: Monday, September 20, 2004
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2putter - Placentia
The course was in very good condition, the greens were fast and true. While the pace of play was slowed by some inexperenced golfers we will play it again. The only bad taste was left by the single that was put in our threesom who was using his cell phone all the time until we had to remind him that the golf course was not the office.

Posted: Sunday, September 5, 2004
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vraptor - Orange
Some friends had said the course was "boring," "not worth the price," etc. but I was impressed. It has a nice variety of tees to accommodate players of all levels, the ball actually RUNS on the fairways due to lack of gopher-caused humps and bumps, no clumps of kikuyu, etc. Greens are still a bit hard and don't hold the ball well, but that's to be expected on such a new course. A very nice clubhouse and restaurant facility, plus polite and helpful staff, made this a very pleasant day of golf!

Posted: Thursday, September 2, 2004
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steve663 - aliso viejo
A wonderful golf experience. This course beats many courses that charge 75 or more dollars. A great layout with nice conditions is well worth $55 dollars on the weekday. Play it while it doesn't get too pricey unless you are wealthy and it doesn't matter what the fee is. This course is a very fair, enjoyable course for everyone. On holes 2 thru about 8 you have to block out the barking dogs from the adjacent dog pound. Bunkers are a little too soft. I can't wait to play here again.

Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2004
Member Since: January 1, 2003
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166995 - DANA POINT
THIS NEW COURSE OFFERS SOME CHALLENGING HOLES. NOT MUCH WATER. THE BACK NINE WINDS THROUGH THE CANYON AND AN EXTRA CLUB IS OFTEN MANDATED BY THE WIND COMING OFF THE OCEAN. FRIENDLY COURTEOUS STAFF. A WELL STOCKED IMPRESSIVE PRO SHOP. HIT OFF GRASS AT THE RANGE. SURE WISH ALL GOLF CARTS HAD A PLACE TO DISPOSE OF CIGARS/CIGARETTES..

Posted: Sunday, August 29, 2004
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tcscb - San Pedro
Very nice course, though you would expect it as new as it is. Excellent customer service. Only problem is greens and the fact people do not repair their ball marks. This is really getting out of hand. No real rough, generous fairways, but if you miss, you lost a ball. I was in a lot of traps, and the sand was good. Very good course overall.

Posted: Sunday, August 29, 2004
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oliversax - Huntington Beach
Service was great and course is in good shape, but the layout failed to impress. Fairways are wide open and played easier as 1st few holes played downwind. We played from blues (6500 yds) but it played much shorter than that. My 5W only carries 210, but I rolled up to a green from 260 out -- that's ridiculously absurd.

To hit the ball close to the pin, golfers will need to bounce it up, paying close attention to the surrounding contour to play off of. Firing at pins will not get you close. This is a pet peeve of mine, where good shots are not rewarded, yet missed shots will often yield good results.

Only memorable hole was the reachable par 5 18th w/ water along the entire left side - good risk/reward. Otherwise, layout was unimaginative. I got bored by the 3rd hole. Too bad. I was looking forward to another great course in OC. Skip this course and go to nearby Talega, Tijeras Creek, Aliso Viejo, or even San Juan Capistrano, for better layouts.

Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2004
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Good value for the money. Showing some wear. Fairways are pretty thin. It's gonna take some time for the fairways to grown in. Greens holding nothing. Don't go for the pin. Club down and land just in front of green to run on.

Posted: Monday, August 16, 2004
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4birdiesinarow - Rancho Santa Margarita
Played here for the second time since opening week. Fairways are visibly thinner on grass now, with more bare spots. The course is a good value for the money, though I hope they restrict carts on some fairways soon so the grass has a chance to establish itself. Greens are showing more ball marks, but they still putt quick and true. They have ball washers now too, which is nice. We played in 4.5 hours, on a Thursday morning, about a half hour faster than last time, though as a single I waited two hours to get on, in spite of the fact there was only one other person on the list in front of me. If you don't have a tee time I would recommend going elsewhere. It's too bad they don't leave any open times for walk ons.

Posted: Monday, August 16, 2004
Member Since: July 10, 2003
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melvindd - Northridge
Very neat golf course.
New and very playable. The fairways are forgiving and the greens roll well. The new carts they have are very good too.
This golf course is very affordable for 85 bucks on the weekend.
Try this golf course out without paying excessively, no regrets at all.

Posted: Monday, August 9, 2004
Member Since: January 3, 2003
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mikelach - Irvine, CA
Played on 8/4/04. The course was in excellent condition for a new course. The fairways are much wider than they sometimes look, but if you miss them you are in environmentally sensitive areas that require a one stroke penalty. Some of these areas were just dirt, so I don't understand it. There are quite a few elevated tees and the fairways roll pretty well, so the course plays a little shorter than its yardage would indicate. Many greens are very large and the day we played they were being sanded or fertilized. The putts still rolled true, but some were slightly slower than expected. There's a nice cool breeze and it's refreshing to play without houses all around. This course is definitely worth the money. Probably the best value in Orange county next to Costa Mesa Public Golf Course.

Posted: Thursday, August 5, 2004
Member Since: September 2, 2003
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weber - coto de caza
First time I've played the course and I have to admit that it was much better than I expected. (I didn't believe the reviews) When you look at the course from Crown Valley, it does not look very impressive, but this is a nice course! Very fair, very playable, and what you see it what you get. No tricks. Tough 3 pars! Condition was great considering this course is brand new. I just hope they don't begin the raise the green fees to match the neighboring courses.

Posted: Wednesday, August 4, 2004
Member Since: December 4, 2002
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t25452 - Laguna Niguel
Nice course. Very scenic. No two holes alike. Good customer service. Nice bar. Great setting. A couple negatives. These greens will hold no shots. Bump and run is the way to go. Fairways are immaculate, but a little thin and brown. If they wanted to make this course really tough, they'd let the rough grow. Right now you can't tell the difference between the fairway and the rough. Wind definitely affects play, specifically on the back nine. Some signs of ball mark damage on many greens. FIX YOUR MARKS!

Posted: Monday, August 2, 2004
Member Since: March 28, 2003
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GENEGOLF - Mission Viejo
The pleasant surroundings of this new course make for an enjoyable but competitive golf course. The feeling of being alone with nature adds to the fun of this course. The course is in very good shape. The putting greens and the driving range are well maintained. The employees are very cordial and help to make the golf experience very enjoyable. Maybe they can extend the senior rates to include Fridays.

Posted: Friday, July 23, 2004
Member Since: September 25, 2003
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sparky14 - Rancho Santa Margarita
Terrific for a brand new course. The $100+ South OC courses have to be nervous. Very good condition, fairways and greens great. Every bit as good as Strawberry, Oak Creek. Better than Tijeras, Tustin, Aliso Viejo.

Posted: Friday, July 23, 2004
Member Since: March 26, 2003
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mepotter - Sierra Lakes
I just ran a tournament here on Sat. 7-17. What a beautiful course and surroundings to spend a day.
On the golf side, plenty of people to take care of you from the moment you arrive, with very friendly attitudes. They tried to help in all ways to make sure our event was a success...which it was. Nice restaraunt and bar....but service was quite slow in the morning, so allow some extra time for breakfast.
The course itself was full of personality, beutiful scenes and challenging situations. Loved the layout!!
We had players with single digit indexes to 30 somethings....all had a great experience. The back nine is definately a harder play when the winds are blowing. Greens putt very true, but getting approach shots to stick was not easy....best to land short and let it run up to the pin.
I had read about there being no ball washers....get over it and bring a towel. I did have two complaints...it seemed that every trap resembled the La Brea Tar Pits, it should be sand not mud. Second, what happened to cart girls knowing when to drive up to you and when to wait. Beautiful and very friendly, but too many times they would drive right up to someone addressig the ball or even swinging. The course really does need a snack bar out at the turn, since you don't return near the clubhouse until the 17th hole.
All in all, go play this course, and soon. This will be a popular track in th O.C. until the Donovan Brothers over price it like they have the other courses they manage.

Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2004
Member Since: May 20, 2004
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dmannies - Tustin,CA
For a new golf course, it was worth the wait. A great layout that will only get better with time. Bunkers needed a little more daily dressing up. A fun, playable golf course and a great addition to Orange Co.

Posted: Friday, July 16, 2004
Member Since: January 28, 2003
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odreem - Thousand OAks
Played his wonderful course on 7/14/04. Began at 1:30 pm and finished 6:30. Plays very slowly due to players taking too long to play and by looking for balls in the enviromentally sensitive areas. Customer service is excellent and the price is excellent for the course. The greens are very firm and will not hold many shots. I look forward to playing he course again.

Posted: Thursday, July 15, 2004
Member Since: December 3, 2003
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gosako - Anaheim, CA
Disappointed after all the hype on this course. The fairways & greens are rock-hard like cement. The pace of play for a Monday was horrible - 5.5 hours. And there is no halfway house/snackbar at the turn. Relies on cart girl who we only saw once. The layout is OK - only a couple of holes that are memorable, otherwise ordinary. There are way better courses out there that have better layouts, much better conditions and better value.

Posted: Monday, July 12, 2004
Member Since: November 14, 2002
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Broomy - Laguna Niguel
Very scenic course. Front nine is very player friendly, designed for favorable bounces. Back nine is less forgiving and much more difficult. Number 12 has got to be one of the hardest hole in the area, with a long forced carry and a long second shot. Never saw a marshall so play was slow. It may be because the course is new and players are not familiar with the course. I hope that as time goes on they send some marshalls out to keep pace of play up. Very friendly staff, particularly the starter. I look forward to playing the course regularly and watching it mature.

Posted: Sunday, July 11, 2004
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johnsohn - orange
I thought this course was great. Played on 7/6 in 3.5 hours. The couse demands accuraccy or a lot of ammo. Thr greens were fast and true. Ball washers are at a premium and the cart passed by omlt once during our round. I'll be back

Posted: Saturday, July 10, 2004
Member Since: November 8, 2002
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4birdiesinarow - Rancho Santa Margarita
Nice new course, but typical of modern designs in that you are either in the fairway or you lose your ball. Most fairways bottleneck in the landing areas, making the shorter more conservative tee shot preferable on nearly all par fours. Fairway grass is still growing in, so you can get some pretty strange bounces, and the ball rolls a long way. Take a wet towel if you like to play a clean ball. I saw only one ball washer near the blue tees on the entire course. Can't imagine how they forgot to buy ball washers(?). Round was very slow for early morning (took 5 hours teeing off at 7AM. Marshalls are plentiful, but there is little they can do when the whole course is so backed up. More staff on hand than an airport security screening station, so if you like the resort course feeling of people being all over you, carrying your clubs to and from your car, etc., you will love it here. Bring lots of balls unless you are a very straight and/or short hitter. A long iron off the tee turns out to be a pretty good idea on many holes, with landing areas that require you to choose your line depending on how far you can carry the ball. Unfortunately there are no indications of the distance of the carrys or how far the traps are, so you have to guess on many holes. A yardage guide would be very helpful. Greens are firm but putt very well. On the day I was there they painted the inside lip of the holes white, which was a nice touch. A good value for the money, but get ready for a long slow day.

Posted: Friday, July 9, 2004
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Wharfrat - Laguna Niguel
Tried to walk on today. I first called and asked if they would be able to get a single out. I asked if the course was booked up. Lisa told me there would be no problem getting me out. I arrived at the course and two hours later left. Not one person (5) on the list before me got out...but they did let a 4-some out who seemed to know someone behind the desk.

$12 bucks for about 90 balls on the range....No club cleaners on the range....Since Saddleback driving range is a stones throw away, I would suggest practicing there. Although both Saddleback and the course are run by the same company:Donovan Brothers....Seems like a conflict of interest to me.

As you can tell not a great first impression... I hear the layout is great, but I won't be finding that out anytime in the near future.

Oh by the way...You can head down to Tijeras Creek for $5 - $10 bucks more and be treated much better. Did you know that the Donovan's ran Tijeras. It became a much better place (customer service and course condition) when they were replaced by Crown Golf.

PS.. Not a big fan of Donovan run facilities...Today I was reminded why.

Posted: Thursday, July 8, 2004
Member Since: May 6, 2003
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callykid - corona
Played here for the first time today. For 55 bucks, this is