Played on monday @ 6:45. Course marshall was already getting on a group of people ahead of us about hitting when ready. After that we did not have to wait to hit a shot. Course was in nice shape an... Continue »

Played on monday @ 6:45. Course marshall was already getting on a group of people ahead of us about hitting when ready. After that we did not have to wait to hit a shot. Course was in nice shape and the greens are in the best shape I've seen them in a long time. If your going to play this course I suggest you tee off early, otherwise good luck finishing!

Played in a tournament on Saturday, 4/12/08, on an unusually hot sunny day with only light breezes. I usually avoid this course because of its reputation for slow play, but needed the tourney score fo... Continue »

Played in a tournament on Saturday, 4/12/08, on an unusually hot sunny day with only light breezes. I usually avoid this course because of its reputation for slow play, but needed the tourney score for my index. Course lived up to billing – crushingly slow pace with no evident effort by staff to speed things along. Walkers, 5-somes, whatever, allowed at MM, so it doesn’t matter, everyone waits. Started 45 minutes late (staff said ‘reservation mistake’!), then round took 6 hours! Kill me, please!! That’s unfortunate, because the course was in very good shape throughout (although many blue tees weren’t very level, and bunkers were sometimes wet and thin). This course is unusual for a public access course in SoCal because of the sometimes severe slopes and elevation changes, elevated and perched greens, and lots of sand and large trees. Back nine much more challenging than the front because of these conditions. This may contribute to the slow play – if you have these types of firm sloping fairways where balls run long distances into trouble, you need to at least put strips of rough or sand at the collection points, so people don’t spend 10 minutes hacking through the waste and bushes looking for lost balls. But the staff doesn’t seem to care – the last time I played here I complained about a 3-hour front nine and was told ‘that’s pretty normal’ on weekends. So I can’t recommend the course, and I won’t be back if I don’t have to have the round.

The course played as quickly as I can remember, just under 5 hours, which is totally unacceptable, but given this place is usually even slower than that, it was tolerable. The greens were way too bump... Continue »

The course played as quickly as I can remember, just under 5 hours, which is totally unacceptable, but given this place is usually even slower than that, it was tolerable. The greens were way too bumpy and the tees were uneven and had many bare areas, otherwise the course was in the best shape I've seen it. This course has potential if the condition would be improved and a couple of holes (5, 10, 11) would be modified, because there are elements about each of these holes which are unfair.

cool course. its in good shape but i think they're aerating the greens pretty soon. fairways are kinda so-so but okay. the greens look great i don't know why they are aerating them.

cool course. its in good shape but i think they're aerating the greens pretty soon. fairways are kinda so-so but okay. the greens look great i don't know why they are aerating them.

Played this course last week with Swing18 and Thingstodo. Just a comment but this course plays SLOW!!! I mean it was ridiculous. A twosome ahead and they waited for the fairway to clear to tee off.... Continue »

Played this course last week with Swing18 and Thingstodo. Just a comment but this course plays SLOW!!! I mean it was ridiculous. A twosome ahead and they waited for the fairway to clear to tee off. It was ridiculous. Well the stop/start wreaked havoc on my game so I was fairly peeved. To top it off we didnt even get to finish the 18. It was dusk as we hit 17. Now for course conditions. Greens were soft and a little slow. But green speed was different/inconsistent from hole to hole. The holes with higher eleveations or sitting on a mound ran a lot faster than the bowl shaped greens. Fairways were green. Not too much wear and tear. Traps and I saw a lot of them were in good shape. Rough was trecherous. Stay out of it. Almost as bad as playing El Dorado on a Friday.

Played on Sat 04/05. This course has great layout. I always enjoy this course. Pace will be slow because so many people comes here. We were delay 30 minutes to tee off. Overall fairways and green... Continue »

Played on Sat 04/05. This course has great layout. I always enjoy this course. Pace will be slow because so many people comes here. We were delay 30 minutes to tee off. Overall fairways and greens are decent. Speed on the greens are about normal. Back nine has more interesting layouts and challenging shots. Great course! I give 7.0 GK rating.

SLOW. Arrived at 1:30 and played the 18th in the dark at 7:30! frustrating, crowded and overrated. The course is nice for the price and the staff were great but I dont think I will be back.

SLOW. Arrived at 1:30 and played the 18th in the dark at 7:30! frustrating, crowded and overrated. The course is nice for the price and the staff were great but I dont think I will be back.

Enjoyed playing this course because of the different elevation changes, lie angels and the challenge of the tees ... If you don't hit your ball in the right place it could cost you a stroke or two..... Continue »

Enjoyed playing this course because of the different elevation changes, lie angels and the challenge of the tees ... If you don't hit your ball in the right place it could cost you a stroke or two..For $35 with a cart during the week you can't beat it...

This has to be the worst managed course ever....customer service is a joke the guy that works in there could care less about the customer.and the course is always overbooked.....7 hours to finish........ Continue »

This has to be the worst managed course ever....customer service is a joke the guy that works in there could care less about the customer.and the course is always overbooked.....7 hours to finish......dont waste your time....