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Played 2/20. $79 to play, included range balls. 10:24 tee time. 50 degrees no frost delay. Played with a friend visiting from out of town. The pine is a reasonably flat tree-lined course. It's not overly difficult, but it does play tough from the tips. It's used as the course for the Phoenix Open Monday Qualifier.

The course was very busy and in fair condition over all. Greens were good but had lots of ball marks. They were medium - fast around 10.5. Fairways were OK. Many had a lot of divot damage. The rough was poor. It was dormant bermuda that they scalped down to the dirt. It gave you a hard pan thin lie most of the time. Sand was good. Tee boxes were nice and level, but many had divot damage from all the rounds that are played here.

The practice range is small for a place that has 2 courses. The grass to hit off of is mostly gone by 11am. I see they put in some rubber mats. I thought the carts they used needed replacing. The GPS was put in as an after thought. It didn't seem to work right. Have a range finder as back up. Also, no wind screen on the cart. Beverage cart came by twice. Outside service was nice and attentive. POP was 4 1/2 hours. Currently, I wouldn't recommend playing here. There are other better options in Scottsdale.
Played here on Friday 1/11 in a charity tournament. The course is 3 weeks away from the Phx Open. The finishing touches are being made on all the sky boxes & tents. The last time I played this course was 7 years ago in one of Johnny GK's events. Since then the course has been remodeled. The main thing I noticed is they added or moved a lot of sand traps and some holes had some small changes. Over all I think it came out well.

The course is in great shape. It's longer than it was before. Championship Tees: 7261 yards Par 71 74.7/142. We played the Players Tees: 6614 yards Par 71 71.5/131. The greens are firm but they hold good shots. They roll very true. They were not quite tournament speed but they are getting close. You really had to be careful on downhill putts. Greens played 11.5 - 12. Fairways were lush. They were set up tighter for the upcoming tournament. It looked like they were growing out the rough. It was playable in some areas where the rough is 1 - 3 inches. Other areas it was 6 inches high and tough to play from. All the new bunkering and sand is fantastic. It's that soft powdery beach sand that's so white it's blinding. Tee boxes are lush & level.

TPC Scottsdale has an awesome practice facility. The service is top notch. I highly recommend playing the Stadium course as well as its sister the Champions course.

I submitted new photos of every hole. Including the infamous Tiger Woods "Loose impediment" boulder from the 1999 Phx Open and the diabolical "Coffin Bunker" on #13. Hitting the tee shot inside the stadium on #16 was awesome! I hit it 12 feet pin high left of the hole. ( Heard the imaginary cheers.) Proceeded to miss the birdie putt. ( Heard the imaginary Boos)
Played in the 8/25 GK outing. I can pretty much cut & paste my review from 5 years ago. I concur with others from the outing about the nice conditions and the great value you get at Grandview. Thanks to JohnnyGK & Seve B for being great hosts. I enjoyed meeting some new, seeing some old & playing with fellow GKers.

Conditions all around were very good. We teed off earlier than in years past. The course held its moisture and played pretty soft. Not much roll out in the fairways. The greens held shots next to your ball mark. They were slower than I remember. Around 9 -9.5. The renovation of the sand traps came out excellent. It's a finer softer sand now.

Grandview is one of seven courses in the Sun City West retirement community. They don't have outside service or an on course beverage cart. They don't need them since it's not supported by the retirees. Stock up on food & beverages pre round and at the turn. Prices are very reasonable. It has a nice practice range. ($2 for a bucket of 30 balls) A very good chipping & putting area. POP was 4 hrs. Grandview & its sister courses are consistently your best year round golf value in the Phoenix area.
Played 8/18. 7am shotgun tee time for the Slashmasters 4-man scramble. Stonecreek is a park style course and has a good mix of holes. It has more water on it than most courses we play here in the desert. The key to this course is to play it down the left-center of the fairway on most holes. The trouble is on the right side where the creek runs.

Course was in pretty good shape for August. It had some burned out spots, but nothing too bad. It played very soft early, with almost no roll on the fairways. Balls stuck on the greens like darts. Around 11am it started to dry out and got faster. Greens were a little over 2 weeks from getting punched. They were bumpy and slow. They should be better in another 2 weeks. Rough was playable. Half the time you got a good lie. Can't say about the sand traps. Team didn't hit into any of them. Tee boxes were good.

Outside service was attentive. Bev cart was busy and came by twice. Small practice range. When you hit off the front, there's not enough room to hit driver. Good chipping area with sand trap. Nice practice putting green. POP for the scramble 4:45
Played 8/5. 7:50 Tee time. Online rate of $38 included cart. Lone Tree is a desert course with generous fairways and very few forced carries. It's not real long. It can play longer if you get the scorecard to play the tournament tees. Its signature hole is #12 a Par 3 with an island green.

The weather has been very hot recently. Taking its toll on many golf courses. With that said, Lone Tree is not in good shape over all. The greens were aerated about 3 weeks ago. They still have not healed. Greens were slow and bumpy. Probably need 2 more weeks to be better. Fairways were poor-fair. Lots of burned spots, bare spots and divot damage. We had to play, if you were in the fairway, you got to roll it onto a good lie. The rough was a mixed bag. There were bare spots, tight lies, fluffy flyer lies, weeds, and 6 inch high crab grass. ( One playing partner drove a ball that landed in the fairway and kicked into the right rough. The rough was so thick that 3 of us looking for it couldn't find it. Oh well, lost ball 5yds off the fairway). Sand traps were inconsistent. Some had sand, others had hard packed sand, and some had no sand. Tee boxes were good.

Outside service was fair. No one on your arrival, but when you finish they come out to clean your clubs. The golf shop told us no beverage cart on the course. Bring your own water or visit the Grille before playing. No GPS in the carts. Bring your own range finder. Ok practice facility. Currently I would say this course is not playable, until it gets maintenance when they over seed in October. I took about 20 photos. Most of them make the course look terrible. I'm submitting the best ones I had, plus a few that show the conditions.
Played Thursday 5/22. Got a 7:12a tee time online. $45 + tax, green fee + cart. Played with a friend on his birthday who wanted to play here. The course has 2 very different nines. The front nine is more wide open with large green complexes. The back nine is tighter with smaller greens.

The over all condition of the course was mixed. The greens were very good. They were firm and fast. They held good shots and putted very true. Fairways I rated fair. They were firm and thin. A little burned up on most holes. Rough was poor. It was cut as short as the fairway. It wouldn't stop a ball from going off the course. Around the greens, all of your chips are off of tight lies unless you get a bad break and end up in the clumps of grass. Sand was OK. Tee boxes were good.

The course has good practice facilities. Outside service was attentive. We played in 3hrs 15 mins. The carts were old and the GPS wasn't any good. It was to dark, which made it hard to see. Also, the distances it gave you were for the front, middle, & back. It doesn't give you the distance to the pin. Bring your own range finder.

Currently I wouldn't recommend playing here. You can find a better caliber of course with better conditions for $50 around the valley right now.
Played Saturday 8/5. 8:08a tee time. $42 included small bucket I played with some guys who play in Longbow's mens club. It's pure desert golf, forced carries to landing areas. Lots of sand traps. Greens are large and tiered with a nice amount of slope. The course is right next to an airport, so you will get some plane noise.

Conditions were soft and damp but generally good. Fairways were nice with minimal dead or burned spots. The rough was similar to the fairway. It was cut short and was easy to play from. Some of the rough around the greens had some bare spots, but not to bad for the summer. Stray off the course and you may have a shot, but there are some areas thick with desert plants. Greens were soft and on the slow side. They firmed up and got faster as we played. The sand was inconsistent. I was in 2 traps that were OK, but my playing partners complained about many sand traps being packed down and wet. Tee boxes were fair. A few were not level.

Outside service was attentive. Pretty good practice facility. Bev cart came by 4 times. POP was 4hrs 20 mins. It has been a few years since I played this course. The greens used to be hard as a rock. They are much better now. Go give Longbow a try.
Played Sunday 1/8 when a friend told me about a skins/closest to the pin game that started at 12:15p. It was $30 to play which included cart. $5 went into the pot for closest and $5 went into the pot for skins. Coyote Lakes is Par 71 relatively short course. It's a desert style with forced carries to landing areas. While it's less than 6300 yards it's fairly tight off the tee. Many fairways have some severe slope and mounding. Stray off the course, and the desert is pretty thick and rocky. Greens are large and have many different levels and tiers. The 5 Par 3's are a good mix of distances, but they are not real long. All the Par 4's are less then 400 yards with the exception of #18. 3 of the 4 Par 5's can be reached in 2.

Generally conditions were good. The course had a full over seed. Fairways were nice. Some areas had some severe divot damage. Rough was thick but not too long. It would give you some flyer lies. I wasn't in the sand but those in my group who were, said it was good. Greens were medium-fast. (10.5 - 11). They rolled smooth and true, but they were very firm. You couldn't make much of a ball mark, just a small dent. You would have to play for your ball to release. Keeping it below the hole was tough. I putted from above the hole most of the day. I am being kind giving the tee boxes a fair rating. They are not level and are kind of small. Many were riddled with divots.

The course has a short practice range where you can only hit the cayman balls. OK chipping area w/sand trap. Nice large practice putting green. Outside service was good. Beverage cart came around once each side. Carts have GPS. Course was very busy that day. POP was 4 1/2 hours. Submitted some photos.

Skins Game Side Note:

They played the skins game from the Gold tee. It was less than 6000 yards. It was the 1st one they tried to do this year and they said they want to do more. There were 16 players. No handicaps used in the skins game. It was a good mix of players, low to high handicaps. No scratch players. 5 skins were made. One was a Par on #2. I'll keep an eye on it and tell the GK community if they have more.
Played 12/10. 12:30 tee time. Online rate of $36+tax. Played this course with a friend who is playing here next weekend in a tournament. No changes in the course layout from when I reviewed it a little over a year ago. It's a generally wide open flat golf course. Most of the holes are straight. Housing developments are around the perimeter of the golf course. Fairways and rough are generous. Desert areas have some mature trees, but it is clear of small plants and you're hitting off of hard pan. Greens are pretty large and mostly flat. The four Par 3's are challenging. Especially hole #12. It's 220 yards on the card but today with the pin back it was all of 235 yards. The Par 5's range between 520 - 546 yards. If you're long, you have a decent shot to get to them in 2. It's the Par 4's that give you a great chance to score. Holes #8 & #9 are 441 & 435 yards respectively, but after that all the Par 4's on the back nine are 400 yards or less.

Conditions were fair - good. They over seeded the tee boxes, fairways, and greens. Some holes had some soggy and even muddy areas. Most notably the left side of hole #10. The fairways I rated only fair. There were many bare spots and thin areas. Also, not many people are using the sand bottles in their carts. There was a lot of divot damage. The rough was dormant bermuda grass. Pretty easy to play from. Ball doesn't spin as much. Sand traps were inconsistent. Some were fine and others have heavy packed down sand. Greens were good. They were soft underfoot. Medium - slow. (9.5 to 10) Don't over read them. Most putts are straight. Tee boxes were in good condition.

Outside service was weak. The ranger had to tell us which cart to use. The beverage cart came around 5 times. Good practice range. Nice chipping and putting area. Others I played with said the food from the restaurant was very good. POP was 3 hrs 45 mins. They have GPS in the carts now. OK value for the conditions. Submitted 4 pics.
Played 11/19. Online rate of $48. 12:15 tee time. I've played and reviewed this course many times over the years. It's a Par 70 mostly park style golf course. It has generous fairways with mostly flat greens. To the right of the greens on hole #4 & #6 is ESA. Free drop from the drop area. It's got six good Par 3's including hole #18, a downhill short - mid iron to a green mostly surrounded by water.

The golf course was in good shape after a full over seed. Fairways were firm and fast with the ball sitting up nicely. Rough was generally lush, a few areas had bare spots. Some of the lower lying areas were soft to play from. Greens rolled smooth and true. Medium speed, 10.5. Some had heavy ball mark damage. Sand traps were good with plenty of soft sand. Tee boxes were fair. A few had heavy divot damage, but many boxes had tee markers that were very close together. I'm glad they have been keeping up with trimming the trees as necessary on the course. Next, they might want to address trimming the trees on the tee around hole #9.

Practice facility has chipping and putting but no range. They do have hitting nets to warm up. Outside service was good. Beverage cart came by 3 times. The course was very busy. The front nine took longer to play than the back. We still made it in 4 1/2 hours. If you are looking to play a fun course that gives you a good chance to score, then give Silverado a try. Submitting five new Par 3 Pics.
Played 11/12 on a gift certificate. 1:20p tee time. Course has come through over seed in good shape. It has a good mix of holes. There's more water on this course than most around town. As always, you want to protect against missing right on most of the holes with the exception of hole #3 and #8. The course was very busy.

Tee boxes, fairways and rough were mostly in good shape. A few fairways had some divot damage and the rough was thin in a few places. Nothing major. Greens were fair - good. Medium speed about 10.5 - 11. Most of the greens were riddled with unfixed ball marks. My threesome was fixing 3 to 4 per hole each. We also had a big problem with the sand traps and the players who played that day. No one was raking the sand and people must have been climbing out over the face of some of the traps. Who leaves footprints gouging out the face of a sand trap? I raked 2 traps I wasn't even in just because I felt bad for the players behind us. Also, there were a number of them that didn't have any sand in them. Just dirt and rocks. We weren't sure if they were ground under repair or waste areas. No one mentioned it in the pro shop. They had rakes around them so we played them as a hazard.

Driving range is on the small side. You can't hit driver if the tees are up. Chipping area has been improved. The practice putting green is very good. Outside service was attentive. Beverage cart came by 3 times. POP was 4 hrs 10 mins. Right now I can't recommend playing this course. Submitting 5 pics.
Played 11/11. I got an online rate of $49.99 for a twilight tee time of 1:20p included range balls. I last played here 2 1/2 years ago and reviewed it when it first started taking public play. It still has the members getting the prime tee times and the public plays in the afternoon. While the course is nice and really challenging, the golf experience was poor.

It's a tough golf course that's generally in good shape. It's not long but it's tight off the tee. Fairways are narrow. I paced off a few that were less than 20 yards wide. The rough was long and lush. It could give you some tough lies. Easy to catch a flyer or a knuckle ball. There is a lot of tough mounding around the greens. Greens are tiered and have a lot of slope. Running around 10.5. When chipping on them, the ball skidded instead of checking. You needed to play mostly flop shots. Tee boxes and sand were in good shape. Submitted some photos.

Good all around practice facility. Outside service must be told only to help the members. They never even looked our way. There was no beverage cart service. Carts don't have GPS so bring your own. POP was a ridiculous 5 1/2 hours. There was no ranger on a course that desperately needs one. We quit at the 4 1/2 hour mark when it got dark and still had 3 holes to play. Driving back to the clubhouse, we saw group after group of members walking with pull carts looking for their balls in the desert. What a joke! I can't recommend playing this course at this time.
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