This is one of two courses at Menifee Lakes. We played on 9/27/2014 around 11am. The course is always vacant in the afternoons, we only had to play thru one foursome of newbies, but they saw us coming and waved us on thru. The course is now too difficult if you can put it in the fairway. There is water to contend with along with some hilly fairways that give you some blind shots. It is one of my favorite places to play along with the other course(Palms). The biggest drawback is every time we go, the driving range is closed to drivers and the "Irons Only" is posted. It seems they will allow the "Members" to hit drivers but not the public. I usually warm up at another course on the way. It is easier to get on the Lakes course than it is to get on the Palms course, because this is the course the "Members" prefer. I prefer the Palms course as well, but both are fun and offer different challenges.