Played the Piper on a Saturday, twilight rate, as a single. I don't hesitate paying $70 to play this fantastic golf course. However, I balk at paying the regular rate, about $130.00. Even at the higher price, given the state of golf fees, this course has value.
The course is on a magnificant piece of land. Further, this is my favorite walking course. Cool ocean breeze with great views and a good variation of the course.

I have a few complaints. One I am no big fan of shaggy tee boxes. Two, the fairways were in great shape. However, the cuttings were left in rows on the fairway. The greeens were airiated. Can't complain about this, it was my bad luck. Still missed the soft, yet fast, greens.

I use to play this course all the time. The higher price and the later twilight rates have caused me to go elsewhere. I use to have my way with this course. Today, it was a challenge. I was just missing my drives and pushing the ball into the ruff, which gobbled up the ball. Once, I just missed the fairway and after a search I was ready to drop, was going back to my bag, and I stepped on my ball. I don't remember the ruff being so snaraling. I was in the stuff all day. The only time I really got ahold of one was on Number 2. A very tight driving hole.

This is a great course. I just don't know if it will be a regular thing. Over the years the drive from LA, while panaramic and relaxing, has gotten bogged down by traffic. On the way back, from Woodland Hills to WLA is was bumber to bumber traffic.

At any rate, this is a great course. Use to be an overlooked beauty. It was found out, they gussied the place up, and raised the fees. Now you must pay for playing this beauty.

This is a classic layout on a frayed beauty. What chaffs my hide are the unreplaced fairway divots. We need to do our share to keep this course playable. Also, if you want a positive experience then you need to have a tee time and get up early. I would not play this course late morning or early afternoon. Some should being playing the par 3 and have no business on a big course. Lucky, however, these yahoos like thier sleep and usually do not infest the course until later on in the day.

Was a mixed bag of tricks for my game. On the positive side took 4 iron on #8. A baby draw on a towering flight, came down soft, but released ten feet below the stick and my ball disappeared. Ace!!! Badabinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.

Have been meaning to play Oak Valley for a while. Last time we were this neck of the woods, played across the street.
There have been some changes in this course over the years. First played when there was not a home on the site. Back then they would leave a stack of balls on the range, ready to go, hit as many as you want, without charge. But the times they are a changing.

This was not a day for scoring. We got there early, around 8:00 and they said that the course would not open until 9:00 because of frost. That was ok, we didn't have a tee time.

The wind was howling. About a 3 club wind. It was blowing so hard that a ball at rest on the green would sometimes move. Also, my hat kept blowing off. On the positive side, we played unmolested. After we holed out, I worked on my chipping on a few holes, like I had no cares in the world.

When the wind was at our back you could absolutely rip your tee shot. On 17, around 411 from the blues, I must have hit it 375. A baby lob wedge in to the green and presto, birdieeeee. On 18, I hit one pretting good, had 175 in. Took 8 iron. Miss hit it, but it still found the green. Missed the put. (As a side note, to you gramps that play across the street, Yes I am deep off the tee. Pro deep if not further. However, I only have an average chipping game and average to below average in putting, that is why I am not on the tour)

On the other hand on #11 some 185, I absolutely ripped a 3 iron to get on the green. Normally would be about a 6 iron for me. This was like the U.S. open at Pebbel, only the ruff was not so punishing.

This is a must play course, if you call yourself a player. Will play again next week. The wind canceled out the round. Had a great time and will go back to see how my game holds up on this course, when the weather is not so foul.

Left LA at 5: 00 am. The night before had plans of playing Oak Valley. After our round we kicked outselves for not playing Landmark's Oak Valley.

The good about legends. The course is in great shape. The range is great and the pitching area is a nice touch. Even after a top dressing the greens rolled true. Also, they have a big handsome clubhouse, with lotion and mouthwash in the men's room.

The bad. After coming off #18 I expected to see a Hyatt hotel instead of the Clubhouse. This is a resort type of course. Make it nice for the guests. All juiced up. I Can't respect a course too much if I am having to take a five wood off the tee. Narrow landing areas on the front. On the par 5's I would hit a relaxed three wood off the tee and still find myself only about 185 away. The sand in the bunkers was wet and hard. The good thing is that you don't have to bother raking the traps because they are so hard that they don't leave footprints. Also, the front has a par three that is 88 yards from the blues. Downhill, at that. Easy bird. But, it is like cheating. This is a big track of land and the designer made the least of it. The name says it all, the legends (meaning gramps will love it). The cart girl deserves mention. She was always around, almost too much.

The back is a little better. The tee shot opens up a little more and I was able to take out the driver on a few holes. The starter in the clubhouse was unaccomidating and unfriendly. Wouldn't allow us to use a coupon for two players. My friend paid full fee.

I hear Champions is a better course. Couldn't get on because of a tourney. Might try that one, some day. However, it will be hard to pass up on Landmark's Oak Valley, which is a man's course. A true test. Frankly, I got kind of bored lashing 3 woods down the throat of this course and then having little half wedges into the greens.

I had to give it good scores. Behind the numbers, is a different story. I would'nt play it again, even with the coupon.

Need additional yardage markers for walkers. This time was provided with a pin placement sheet, including depth of green. This saved me a couple of shots.
Please, a few more yardage markers! Otherwise a fantastic course, great layout, and a lot of bang for the buck

Played on July 1. This course does well in the June Gloom. However, with the sun coming out, the fairways were dry in places and in need of a good watering.
I always walk and at Rancho, I can fix a 100 fairway divots and not make any progress. Seems like I have grooved my swing at the local astro turf ranges and I only take a small slice.
Its a love hate thing with me and Rancho. Mostly its love. Now with the course a little tore up, the loving is fading. Played Wilson the week before to break the monotony. Wilson is tore up too. But the back nine is in good shape. But I digress. Rancho is worth the money.

Played the week before father's day. Started playing the round of my life with 2 birdies and an eagle on the front. Is this course easy or am I ready for the mini tour? Really, when you are hitting it long and straight of the tee, the game is a lot easier. Plus, there is a lot of roll up to the greens. I am not a good chipper. On this course, I could use the old Texas wedge.

The back nine is more challenging. Walked the course and was frustrated by a lack of yardage markers. As a newcomer, I was in the dark about what to hit and how far out I was. Additionally, we played with this insufferable woman. She was a fine player, but what a pipe on her. Yackity Yack Yack Yack. Had an opinion on everything and was not bashful about sharing. Can't blame the course.

Pace of play, on this Saturday was slow. Made even slower by having to listen to the pipe.

Played on Father's day. Made the treck all the way up from LA. Nice drive. I remember what I like about this course: challenging layout and in fine condition. What I forgot. The wind howls at this place, like all the time. However, a properly hit ball defies the wind. On number 8, a downhill par 4, right into the face of a wind, lets say gale, I shut the face of a three wood that was ripped, with a little draw. Pace of play was great. The greens were a little munggie for my taste. Overall a fine test at a reasonable price.