Played 10/30/08. Recent overseeding was evident bit wasnt a problem . Greens were lightning fast and true. I play here often and the course is in great overall condition for this time of year. There are a few places that drainage seems to be an ongoing battle. The veiws of the valleys and mountains are superb and the pace of place is the best I have found on a public track in So Cal. I would suggest this track to anyone that prefers fast greens and that "old style" character that only time can provide.