we've played here a few times. the pace of play is usually slow....a 4.5 round here is really good. we played on super bowl sunday, thinking the course would be quite empty. we still had to wait on every shot, although much better than normal. the fairways were quite wet and muddy due to recent weather. they should have provided cleaning towels during these conditions. the sand traps were generally wet and hard, with some still filled with water.

i noticed that they've changed the course and slope ratings recently for the gold and harder tees. this is the only course i know that the ratings for men are actually lower than for women. it's ridiculous to think that at a course with all their elevation changes and ravines, they expect women to outplay the men. silly.