Early morning weekend round in 4.5 hours. The staff is always really great here but other than the carts that's about it. We had not played here in quite awhile after the last visit. The practice facilities are adequate and located close to the clubhouse. The carts are probably the most comfortable of any I've ridden in recently. They do have GPS which is helpful for newbies and fairly accurate. The tee boxes were all thin, shaggy and surrounded by clover. The rough is little more than huge spotty sections of six inch long clover and weeds. So Sad. If you could find a ball in the stuff you would not be able to hit from it. The fairways were thin and weed filled with sections of clover everywhere from start to finish. The gophers have taken over sections of the fourth hole and were in action as we teed off. There are many fairways that you would have to move your ball on to find any grass. The clover in the fairways would hide balls which found the thick healthy rabbit food. The traps for the most part were fairly well groomed but lack sand and were wet with large pebbles. You had to remove your ball from many that were impossible to play from. So Sad. The greens which years ago were so nice have continued their decline as well. There are section of bare spots on several holes which your putt cannot roll through? The old cup placements on a few holes are craters where you cannot putt across. The bumpiness and speed coupled with the massive amounts of poa present on every green is frustrating to experience. Obviously the maintenance crew is understaffed and the course conditions ARE REALLY suffering!!! They have kept rates very reasonable for the local area but with the conditions not worth the rates. SO SAD

Late afternoon Oaks/Creek nines 4.5 hour round on a busy course. It's been over a year since playing here after having been a member for many years. The staff is always great and the practice facilities always busy. The carts are still looking good with gps that is somewhat accurate. They do allow walkers which saves you $20 per player. The tee boxes were in great shape with total coverage. The rough still is very thick but only a few inches long but still difficult to locate a ball in and usually hard to advance it as far as you would like. The fairways were all in fantastic condition with plush green grass cut at just the right length. They were not damp or dry which allowed for good roll until the rough gets in the way. The traps all have nice sand and are well groomed. There are some with large pebbles that find their way onto the greens during the day. The greens were very nice with total green coverage but very slow. The practice greens were quick as usual but the entire round our group found them ALL to be extremely slow. Probably the slowest I have ever seen them in the 40 years of playing here. They held shots well and rolled true but very slow with not as much break as usual. The weekday afternoon rates make the place reasonable. The morning rates and weekend rates have become too much for the average golfer to stomach in comparison to other local facilities. Love this place but will only be out when the rates allow.

Morning weekday 4.25 hour round with a couple of singles. The staff is great and the practice facilities adequate for the numbers they generally have playing. The carts are nice enough with very basic GPS that is not real accurate. The tee boxes had good coverage with a couple of them being slightly sloped. There are many forced carry holes throughout the round starting with the first tee. The rough was in good shape and short enough to advance the ball but penal in sections. The fairways all had really good coverage and provided usually good lies. You can find places that are thin and maybe slightly dry but they're where you probably shouldn't be! The traps all had good sand in them but some were damp and heavy. The greens where great! The greens are in the best shape I've seen them in ever over the years of playing here. The firmness of them required a well struck shot with some spin to get the ball to hold. Many shots into the greens would have quite a bit of roll out. There were very few ball marks and the lines held well with a good roll. They are very large which provides a better chance at finding them and keeping your ball on them. The pace of play was great with the marshal being seen a few times during the round. The wildlife was out on the course as you usually see here as well. The course is in very good condition and the weekday rates are reasonable. Recommended

We used to play this course years ago on a regular basis but first time back in many years. Early morning 4.5 hour round on a fairly busy course. The staff is real friendly and informative about what has gone on with the facility and what is planned going forward. Upon check in every golfer was given a discount for a future weekday round. The practice green is still under repair with only about 50% of it being usable. There is no driving range with only bays and nets. The tee boxes were all level with pretty nice coverage. The rough here is not very thick or long where it is present. Most fairways are lined with brush, trees and water features. Many forced carries on tee and fairway shots. The traps all had ample sand but were all shaggy around the edges. The greens were still a work in progress but in much better condition that we had thought we would find. The greens were all really quick and improved with coverage as the round progressed. There were several ball marks on every green that golfers decided not to repair!! The entire course was marshaled to keep the pace of play reasonable and it was nice. The rates being charged are very reasonable for the course and area. We were told that May 1st would be the grand reopening and I would think that's when rates will increase. Definitely a must play and worth the drive. Recommended

Early morning nearly freezing 4.5 hour round. The staff is thinly spread but takes care of the customers. The rates are out of line with what they offer. The practice facilities are nice and always seem to be busy. The carts are lacking the basics such as a WINDSHIELD. With the rates they charge now they need to equip their carts with a WINDSHIELD. The tee boxes were adequate with some being a little thin and shaggy but all level. The rough really does not exist anywhere on this course. The edges of the fairways are barren turf or dirt and sloped towards ob water hazards and thick brush. The front nine here in always in thin sad condition with lack of sun and playable grass on the fairways. The fairways improve as the round progresses and you will notice the back nine in much better condition. The sand traps were all wet damp hard packed dirt and sand. Hitting a shot from the traps anywhere on the course is nearly impossible. The greens were in decent condition and held shots well. There were not too many ball marks from start to finish which was nice. The greens had great coverage and were pretty quick with very consistent roll from the first to the last. There are many water holes and ob sections on this course. One nice thing is the deer you see on the front nine. We were hoping to find the conditions had improved with the increased rates but sadly that wasn't the case. Maybe during the warmer months the course will show some progress.

Cool early morning round in a little over four hours. The staff is efficient and friendly. The practice facilities are good and carts average. The tee boxes were all with good coverage and mostly level but some needed a trim. The rough is very short when present but the edge of the lakes are lined with netting to keep the fowl out and your balls in play. The fairways even though over seeded are thin in places but generally provide good lies. The over seeded section do provide green grass and great lies. The traps as always were the low light with some being a dark compact mix of dirt/sand. There were a few though that has good sand which was real damp and tough to hit from as well. The greens were really nice with good roll and quick. Most greens had almost no ball marks and total coverage rolling really quick even though it was still damp. Actually the greens were probably the best I've seen in a long time. The facility is always busy with the two courses and central location with easy freeway access. They've kept their rates reasonable over the years and still a great deal for the local offerings. We will return more now.

Early am round in a little over four hours with newbie Brit who joined us. The staff is friendly and relaxed. The practice facilities are adequate for the course which is now owned by the Pala Casino. One would think they would be putting a little money into it with the rates they are now charging? The carts are good with gps (which is not very accurate) and comfortable. The tee boxes had good coverage but several are not level. The rough is medium to thick THICK in sections throughout the round. It can very difficult to locate your balls in it but you will find others that were left there early. The fairways were all in good condition with a mix of grasses but generally nice lies. Hitting from the fairways was nice enough. The traps were definitely the highlight of the round. Most all traps had a good amount of damp fluffy sand which was great but if you weren't used to hitting from it could be difficult. The greens were NOT in the best of shape. Many of them resembled a quilt with patches of different colored grass. The speed was extremely quick but without a fair line due to the patches and slope on many of the greens was discouraging. Shots into the greens did hold well but the bumpiness and speed nearly made some an automatic two putt for our group. Even the really good putters were frustrated. The freeway noise and narrower fairways make for a challenge during the round. The rack rates are out of line for the area with other offerings giving you a better experience. Not able to recommend but it was nice to get out to play here again.

Early morning Sunday 4.5 hour round. The staff was short the starter but getting out early wasn't an issue. Trying to book a weekend tee time is an issue now since they've started requiring golfers to use their booking partner (The criminal Golf Now). The carts are in good shape with some having GPS and others not. Some of the tee boxes were thin but all level. The rough is playable where there is some. Many of the holes have thin to no rough which was not an issue. The fairways are in very good condition with great lies from start to finish. Many of the fairways have a mix of dormant to semi dormant Bermuda and other types of grass. The bunkers are are a mix with most being in really good condition. They were all groomed nicely and most had nice white sand. The fairway bunkers were the only issue with compact thin brown sand and a few pebbles. The greens were really nice and extremely quick from start to finish. The front nine greens were a little bumpy with the aeration still visible. The back nine greens were near perfect. The greens had very few ball marks and quickened as the round progressed. The rack rates are still reasonable in comparison to other local courses. That had become an issue with ALL the local valley courses raising their rates ridiculously. Recommended

Twilight five hour round on the first day of rack rate pricing after the plugging. The staff is always changing lately and new nothing of the rumor that JC is going to take over the operations? The practice facilities are good and always busy. The carts are nice with the GPS which is helpful even if you've played the course for years. The tee boxes were all in nice condition and were seeded. The rough is really thick if you find your balls in the secondary you will be tested to locate them and hit a decent shot. The fairways are all in great shape with a few dry tight lies. The Bermuda turf is starting to turn but still provides decent lies. You will find sections throughout the course that are muddy and need to be played as gur. The traps were all damp and frustrating to hit from. Most traps have ample dark sand and some with small pebbles. The greens are probably a couple weeks away from being in good enough shape to ask rack rates. They were holding shots very nice but all putted at a different speed. Some of the large greens even had different speeds depending on the section of them you found your balls sitting. The overall pace of play here is almost always five hours or more if you do not have an early tee time. There are lots of forced carries and ob on this course which can add to the cost of the greens fees with all of your lost balls.

Played a five hour round finally after having been given it by my wife some five years ago. The clubhouse is a modular which does the job. No driving range and/or real practice green. The carts are very basic with no gps or windshields. You'll wish you had a windshield with all the flies, gnats, mosquitoes and bees you encounter on the front nine. The tee boxes were all level and in pretty fair shape with some being a little thin. The rough is really short or missing with the many forced carries from the tee on the front and back. The fairways were all really great with nice coverage and some Bermuda dormant and not. The grass was fluffy enough on most lies except nearer the greens where you find firm tight lies! The fairways do provide for very good roll out on low shots. There were sections of the course that were soggy and muddy from lack of irrigation management. The traps were all damp with some having compact sand and others filled with the decent fluffy stuff. Hitting a shot from the traps can be an adventure. The greens still showed signs of aeration but were not too bad. The greens held shots nicely and rolled pretty well with a bump here and there. The greens had some elevation changes and were all pretty large. Many shots into them can be blind or semi blind and deceiving without having played here before (which we had not). The water does come into play on a several holes with the fairways being sloped towards the hazard. The views and vegetation here reminded me of Twin Oaks and Eagle Crest (Dos Osos) in San Diego county at a much more reasonable rate. I found that booking a tee time here can be difficult especially on the weekends. When we made the turn there were three groups waiting to tee off. The location and course rates do make this a great place to play. Recommended

Late morning 4.5+ hour round on an always busy course. The facility and carts are very nice and well kept. The staff has always been friendly and helpful. The parking lot has some of the smallest spaces you will ever encounter. The tee boxes were all in pretty good shape but some were a little thin and shaggy. The rough is not long where you find it on the course and allows for a good stroke on the ball. Fairways all had good coverage which really improves on the back nine. Some of the sections throughout the round were a little dry and others a little damp but very playable. The traps were all damp and the fairway bunkers thin and firm. Green side bunkers had good amounts of sand but were also damp. The greens were much slower than usual with less break than most would think. The staff did have the practice greens at the same speed you found on the course which was nice for once. The overall conditions and weekday green fees make this place a great deal in the golf world nowadays. Recommended

Played an early Sunday round in under four hours. That was the best part of the round. The course had issues with water which we were aware last time here. What we didn't know and were NOT informed of when we paid for the round was the greens had not been cut in a few DAYS. We asked the marshal on hole seven about this and he said it wasn't his duty? The course has greened up with the water being dumped on it and the late season warm weather. The back tee boxes were all barren with most having NO grass at all. The rough is now very thick again and extremely wet. The fairways are coming back with many places on the course still thin and/or dried out. Most holes still require a foot wedge for a legitimate second shot!! The greens were all WET and had the longest grass I've ever seen on a course in 45 years of playing the game. The traps were all in very bad shape still. Overall the conditions have improved since the last time here with the exception of the long greens. Not sure what the owners think they're doing?? It will be some time before we play here again.