Play this from the black tees and you will know why you need to hit it straight. The front nine is mountainous and tee shots need to carry and be on target. The back nine is a beautiful view from the front 9 and flatter and wider but still a challenge. I loved playing it and I got a discount with the the Roger Dunn card. Hole 18 is a great hole with the water right and the risk/reward choices. Watch for the animal life, road runners all over the place and I even got up close and personal (20 feet) with a bobcat and her cub near the bridge on 18.

This was my home course back when it was 27 holes. I always played from the back tees and this course will challenge you. The greens have many undulations and the designer, Jack Nicklaus, just loves collection areas and false fronts on greens. The current 4-14 layout, where you play the first 4 holes and then play them again as 15-18 does reduce the overall satisfaction that the course offered, but you can usually get out for $35-$55 week days most of the time, so it is some compensation. Expect some dust from the constuction but it is not bad and only on the early and repeated holes. Greens are usually in good condition and medium fast, but can be tricky. The sand traps are like the lottery, some times sand, some times clay lightly covered with sand. I am sorry to see that the contruction has lost some of the best view holes, but it is still a great course and hopefully the new holes will continue to make this one of the best layouts in SoCal. If you haven't played it, you should and likely it will be one of your most enjoyable rounds.