Played the Babe on MLK Day. Pace of play was great. Course was challenging and very scenic. The only drag is the 90 degree rule. Especially playing there for the first time, it mad it hard to gauge distance. All in all a fun day, but I can think of better places for the price.

Played Rancho on Sunday 7/25/04 and had a great time. Greens in good shape and great weather. Play started out a bit slow..but picked up. Use your city card and play here..its worth the money. Just don't try to come here without a time...I've done that before and it's a nightmare.

I played in a tourney here on 6/12. Beautiful day and a very pretty and quiet course. Very difficult as well. Because of my handicap, I was forced to play from the black tees. On certain holes I would have been happy to hit an iron because of the narrow fairways, but was left no choice but to hit driver because the carry was 230yds and up in some cases. As others have said here, it is helpful to play the course once just to know what your in for. I'll be back and play the gold tees next time.

Played here on Saturday 5/15/04. Called at 7am to see how it looked for a single and the starter actually gave me a time!! 8:18am!! I arrived at 8am and he actually bumped me up and got me out right away. That's unheard of in LA county at a public course at this price. As a bonus, the course played great! The greens held wonderfully with few ballmarks and the fairways were fine. Had a great round...i'll be back.