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Despite the scruffiness, I'm a fan of this course. Yes, the greens have weird wet sections and soft spots on them. Yes, the rough is a bit high in places and the tee boxes a bit chewed up. I would love a round of tree trimming to happen here, there are some tight chutes to hit through.

Despite these problems, the fairways are in great shape and easy to hit off of, the layout is a great mix of holes that reward shot shaping and the ability to hit off of non-flat lies, the lush rough is kinda what you need on course on a hillside and it's the kind of grass that lends itself to more predictable chips. The price can't be beat, and you almost always get to see deer wandering around the course.

I would play here regularly if it was 30 minutes or less away from my house.
8 Likes.
First time at NBCC and what can I say. There is definitely a golf course attached to the parking lot you pull into. Course was visually the equivalent of graffiti on a freeway overpass but some appreciation started to creep in. Tee boxes were ok, and the greens were actually pretty good they rolled medium and smooth. The area around the greens had enough love to support less than ideal shots so it didn't play as ugly as it looked. This is the benefit of having a executive course with only 5 par 4's. You only have to maintain 5 fairways and those fairways were decent. The two holes I left the fairway is where the sadness crept in. Rough is a mess of whatever will grow.

It looked like some reconstruction was in progress, so I imagine they haven't given up on this course. Since it mostly plays fine, any love put into it would go a long way.
9 Likes.
Made tee-time through some funky on-line system where you prepay. Check-in is at the first tee box but they 'cannot' give you a scorecard - so you have to find a way to get one. I really like the spongy fairways and the rough was what I expect rough to be longer, less playable but you can still find your ball. Greens are a bit slower than one would expect. No tee markers so tee off anywhere you d%mn please - maybe that's why the tee boxes were in such good shape.

fun course - If I lived anywhere near here - I'd play it regularly.
11 Likes.
El Cariso is the local seedy bar of golf courses. Most people that don't live near it - don't realize it exists but for the locals - it's a staple. Conditions of the club house with it's 2x4 holding up the bathroom sink, the tired driving range with hard mats and cheap ball trays and the course itself are the golf equivalents of ratty barstools, peeling paint and sticky floors.

As and outsider, I'm only there because it's walking distance from my father in-law who is a Tuesday regular along with all the other Tuesday regulars. It's a cruel par 62 course for the regulars with half of the holes being too challenging for the clientele. Water, barrancas, OB, trees in the fairway and a smattering of long holes make all but a couple of holes an easy place to post a big number - usually my handicap is worse for a go around this track.

I would guess that El Cariso watered and little else during the closure time. Even after a couple of weeks off the rough is US Open length. Every shot must be watched carefully and then finding a shot isn't guaranteed. I found 3 balls in the vicinity of where we expected to find a tee shot 10 feet off the fairway but never found the actual ball. Strokes lost this way can be made up with the above ground cups that improve putting stats. Greens were ok, with medium speed and relatively smooth despite tiny holes punched in them. Where mowed, fairways were in good shape, tee boxes lush and better than usual. No bunkers for me - so no report.

This added difficulty did not go over well with the locals - it was like they decided to have craft beer and cocktail day for the budwiser and whisky crowd.
9 Likes.
Post shutdown Diamond Bar is completely "fine". Greens fine - medium speed with extra grab on them. Fairways fine - some thirsty areas on almost every hole. Rough - punishing in general with some scruffy areas that can really make your ball hard to even find. Bunkers - maybe not so fine - unloved. Packed wet sand the with footprints and stuff. Tee boxes - fine.

Was hoping for better but not expecting it. Forgot what a challenge the layout can be and conditions only made it more so.
10 Likes.
Was surprised how easy it was to get tee times here but here is why that is. It's hilly, no carts and it's not in great shape. When I showed up, I was disappointed. My experience at a nearby course was pure greenery - almost too lush. This was not that. By the end, I was less disappointed, since I never really had a lie I could be mad at.

I checked in at the pro shot counter that was encased in a giant "sneeze guard" to find out that I - in fact - had not prepaid on-line as I had imagined. They even made me sign my credit slip (silly) but did have a bunch of pens in a jar labeled "sanitized" so - ok - have it your way.

The course seemed unmaintained during the time off. Bunkers had grass around the edges and grass starting to poke out in spots - they looked like they hadn't been raked in a couple of days. Generally things were attended to but it looked like they needed a couple more weeks to catch up completely. I found the first greens quite slow and bumpy but as the round went on the greens seemed to get better for the most part. Fairways, rough, and tee boxes were fine. I was hoping for more but obviously not every course took the time during the break to make their course even better.

Walking this course is fun but exhausting - I was worried the group ahead of us wasn't going to make it. They obviously were used to driving in carts. This resulted in a 5 hour round. With the added wind that day, I went home exhausted.
8 Likes.
Pleasantly surprised that Harding stayed open for my Friday March 20 round. While they have implemented many of the Covid-19 practices, there are still some disturbing flaws in the system. Had to physically interact with the credit card machine twice in a single transaction and they provided no way to disinfect afterward. They have done some measures to keep people apart in the clubhouse but then I found myself having to push by a person on two to exit. The snack bar is open but again no way to disinfect after touching the various doors and items you need to touch to get something to eat or drink. You could head to the bathroom right afterward I guess but I didn't see either of the two people I saw go in there do that. I just got a report from one of them on what was going on inside. After the round, there were about 40 people all around and on the putting greens, it was way too crowded and also seemed like a mistake.

Course was wonderfully green overall. Greens had small punch holes in them but it didn't seem to affect the line on medium speed greens. Bunkers probably aren't the highlight here and a semi-dry rain soaked version of them is even less desirable. Rough and fairways were mostly good. The real issue was where grass had been previously dead or missing. You would have a 1 inch high patch of healthy grass riddled with cracks of dead or missing grass. Probably should have been labeled GIR but even if you played it like that you could get some strange hops from any ball rolling through sections of that type of area. Once this all fills in - it will be pure joy to play here.

Overall, so happy to get out of the house and play on a fun course with beautiful surroundings (minus freeway).
9 Likes.
If you haven't played the Navy Destroyer. Do it. It's a great round of golf. Conditions were much better than every other course I've played for months but a bit below what the course is when it's at it's best. Greens had probably reached medium speed by our later tee time. Everything had mostly good coverage - Here and there things got a bit thin in the fairways and rough. Bunkers good - not great - but my playing partner said he was in one that didn't have enough sand in it. People must agree because it was busy even during the week at 11. Despite that, POP was fine as we only waited a little on all the par 3 holes.
8 Likes.
Scholl Canyon is the answer to the quiz question of: "What is the worst course with the best views in the Greater LA area?". I decided to take a stroll down nostalgia blvd. and play this course that I hadn't played in close to 30 years. I could only remember 3-4 holes - all on the back 9 - which is where the course gets wacky.

This par 60 exec 18 is short even for an exec course. But it has it's own version of teeth. It starts with the chewed up and slanted tee boxes and ends with the surprisingly difficult greens. In between, fairways are thin and slanted so almost nobody lays up on any but a couple of the par 4's. Lumpy ground and patchy grass make chipping difficult. It's more than easy to lose a ball here with red stakes and out of bounds in play on over half the holes. Use a colored ball on the front 9 because range balls litter most of the holes on that half.

I probably wont come back again soon but if you do - take the time to enjoy the views of a huge section of the greater LA area from the hill you are playing from. Enjoy watching seagulls fight for scraps as the neighboring landfill get a load of trash dumped on it and marvel at the "design" William P Bell used to create this oddity.
7 Likes.
There seem to be enough reviews from our outing of this course so I will describe my experience in the form of three Haikus.

Am I on the green?
Please tell me I'm on the green.
No, the sand again...

Nice shot on the green!
Something happened soon after...
Bring a pitching wedge.

Wow, what a cool hole!
Local knowledge would help here.
When can I come back?
16 Likes.
Played in an SCGA outing and even though it was shotgun - got to start from the first tee. This course reminded me very much of the majority of outings I've been on. Course is relatively tight where any wayward drive is likely to add 2 to your score. Greens are faster than most public courses and the green complexes are smaller and more difficult than average. We played from the tips due to the Alpha male in our group and even though it's only 6400 yards from there - it's par 70 slope 132 and don't forget "hills". By the third hole, all my headcovers were off and constantly in use.

Good things - course conditions generally good. Greens were rolling well - too well on downhill putts - bunkers were especially good and fairways had even coverage. The course was also more attractive that I had anticipated. Lots of tee boxes had great vistas of the area the course wound through.

Less so - Close mown super grabby kikuyu is the worst to try and chip from - especially over a bunker onto a slick green. Every hole is a challenge and our whole group seemed to run out of gas by midway through the back 9 - nobody finished their round smiling. Maybe that's the problem with playing private courses one time - they are really meant to be played over and over so that the difficulty is cancelled out through repetition.
10 Likes.
Others have well documented the state of Oak Creek - which is in great shape but allow me to spackle in some other details to help you understand the course. My third time here was just as likable as the previous two - it's a course I really enjoy playing.

It's a great design that encourages confident swings and rewards smart decisions. It's in the middle of Irvine but manages to transport the player out of the city to a golf Oasis.

It's got a wonderful practice area that includes generous chipping and sand practice.

My charge for drinks from the friendly cart girl seemed more than reasonable. My glazed salmon at the restaurant was very good and at $16, felt like a misprint on the menu. If I lived nearby - I would consider eating there just for the food and views.

It was a great place to host our GKCup final and hopefully future events.
11 Likes.
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