This course was simply not much fun. Admittedly, it has a very difficult slope of 145 from the tips, and 137 from the blue.. so I expected a challenge. That said, the fairways were absolutely terrible, muddy + damaged (even though we haven't had any rain to speak of in weeks), the bunkers were like hard-pan clay, and the few yardage markers completely innacurate... That wouldn't have been such a problem if the advertised GPS carts actually existed.. but as of 5 days ago, the fleet has been replaced with non-GPS carts, and the sprinkler heads hadn't been marked!
So perhaps a discount?? Not a chance, try 10 bucks more for holiday rates.

As for the course layout - it tries to make up for the poor design with a couple of fun highly elevated tees (200+ feet), but even those generally found a way to disappoint me. After crushing a 300+ drive from an elevated tee to the absolute dead-center of the fairway - I was rewarded with a 20 degree downward lie to the hole. I don't mind being punished for innaccuracy off the tee - but that's a bit sadistic for my taste.

Bottom-line, there are plenty of beautifully designed, challenging layouts like Desert Dunes, Lost Canyons, and Angeles National that are worth the price of admission. Hidden Valley is just an imposter.