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Played early on 6/10/21. Let's get the one minor negative out of the way...they have a light topcoat of sand on the greens. Give that a week to settle in, and the greens will be fabulous. Right now, the grass is great and rolling smooth.

Fairways are borderline immaculate. Green, plush, super-healthy.

Tee boxes are very good. The two or three boxes under construction have been resodded, but not open yet. Should be soon though. Rough is getting thick as well.

In all, amazing conditions for a muni. Heck, amazing conditions for any course, public or private.
10 Likes.
Played BrokenTee Creek in the afternoon of 5/27.

Greens are in good shape. Very last stages of recovery from aeration, but generally very smooth, soft and quick. Fairways and rough in good shape.

Bunkers are in good shape, although the post-COVID crowd has not started to use the rakes and it shows.

If you like teeing off of bare dirt and having an infinite supply of broken tees, you will love it here. Especially the StoneBrokenHouseTee nine where almost every tee box is dirt in the middle. You can get a bit of grass on the edges, but you won't get grass under your feet and under your club. And broken tees as far as the eye can see! Add a few minutes to every tee shot to pick away all the glorious broken tees so that you can stand. In 45 years of golf, never have I see such an effort to provide golfers an endless supply of broken tees.

Still love the old 18, hate the Stonehouse 9. Conditions were better on the Oaks than Stonehouse, but don't worry, there are still plenty of broken tees on the Oaks.
9 Likes.
Out early on 5/19. It's been a few weeks post-aeration, but the greens are still a bit shaggy and bumpy. A couple of more weeks and they should be good to go.

A few tee boxes are being completely rebuilt (1, 11, 16). Always surprised that #1 tee box is always so bad when the #10 tee box that is 15 yards away has always been nice. Hopefully the #1 rebuild fixes that.

Otherwise, standard SC conditions with better than most fairways and patchy rough. Bunkers - some are still being ignored and are a mess. Some are fine.

Definitely seen SC in better shape, and I am sure it will be again soon. Still a great bargain though.
8 Likes.
What Gary said ..... ditto!

He summed it up well. Not much more I can add. Better than average conditions all around. Highly recommended.
6 Likes.
Played CrossCreek on 3/9. Highly recommended!

Greens are fantastic right now. Quick and firm. It was windy, so they were very dry and hard to hold. The grain is very obvious on these greens, and putting and chipping can be very difficult depending on the grain direction.

HOORAY! A course where the fairways actually have grass!t While so many courses try to go hard and firm resulting in bare dirt being visible under some blades of grass, CrossCreek actually has no visible dirt - the ball actually sits on the grass. And guess what....it was still hard and firm - plenty of roll.

As always, there are rough patches on this course. The rough can be hit or miss, tee boxes can be iffy in some of the heavy shade areas, and there is a rare bare spot on a few fairways. Don't let any of these keep you away though. It is a challenging layout that always plays tougher than I expect. Even though it is a 70 minute drive, I've got to get here more often.
11 Likes.
Played Redhawk on 2/24/21. I had not been here since 2007, so I was excited to get back.

Conditions are iffy right now. In general, greens were nice. A couple of them did have major bare spots, but the holes were well away from that (except for one green where it was not avoidable. Several greens have different levels, and if you are on the wrong side of a ridge you will be 3 or 4 putting. Tee boxes and rough were good for winter.

Fairways - my usual rant. Bare dirt with a minimal layer of green/brown grass lying horizontally on top of the dirt. Maybe I need to start skipping the practice range mats and just hit my wedges off of the cement. As soon as I got on #1 fairway and saw what was coming, I tried to keep all iron shots > 100 yards as trying to hit a wedge off of these things was more risky than going for the island green.

Maybe I am just spoiled having San Clemente Muni as a home course. There if you hit the fairway, your ball actually sits on grass. You don't see the dirt underneath.

If you like your driver to roll, Redhawk definitely gives you that. My normal 250-260 drive would go an extra 20-30 yards here. However, even from the 6750 tees, I would say on half of the holes, a 280 drive is too much, as you will roll through fairways.

I really enjoyed the layout, it is a fun course. Conditions...meh. Greens are good enough that I would return if I was local, but being an hour away I'd lean to other options in the area.
9 Likes.
Played LC Champions on 1/26/21. Played in a 4-some that wasn't particularly quick, group was on our tail the entire round, shocked to find out we finished in 3:45.

Course is in very good winter shape. Tees are near perfect. Greens very nice, smooth and quick. Rough is good.

Only minor complaint is very tight fairways, made it very tough to hit wedges. Grass coverage is good, it is just cut short and laying right down on the ground. Great for driver roll, awful for chipping.

Staff is great as always. Highly recommended.
6 Likes.
Joined abbacat, Gary00 and his friend for a round here on 11/19. Thanks Wendy for letting us join you for your closest to the pin round! It was really fun. And yes, Wendy birdied that same CTP hole yesterday! She owns that Par 3.

Conditions are really nice. Greens and sand traps are excellent. Fairways and rough are better than I would expect give the "hidden valley" location - it cannot be easy to grow grass as sunlight has to be hard to come by in some areas. The back tees are at 6600 yards, but some holes are really tight and you had better be dead on with your tee shots. Lots of hidden shots and hidden troubles. Even if you don't play the back tees, go back and look at them as you get some great views of the holes and the area that you might miss from the forward tees.

Strangest thing...I thought I had played there, but a quick search prior to the round on my spreadsheet said I had not been there. But when I drove into the parking lot, I could have sworn I had been to that clubhouse. Played the course, and it all felt new to me. Got back home and did some more searching...and yes I had played there in the 2015 SCGA outing. Very strange that I did not remember the course, because it is a very memorable course. I'm chalking 2015 up to an old man memory lapse.

If you get a chance, definitely go, it is a really fun track.
10 Likes.
Played on 11/09/20 with the Gurus - another fun day on the course.

First, my sympathies to the individual who was responsible for pin locations. I can only assume you had a horrible night before. Based on those pins, I am guessing your spouse yelled at you, your dog bit you, and perhaps your chili dinner kept you up all night. I hope the rest of your week is better.

For my first 10 years here in SoCal in the 90s, La Costa was one of my least favorite places to play. I must say they have made a remarkable turnaround, and it is now one of my favorites.

Greens were nice, smooth and quick, but not too quick except for the 5 or 6 pin locations right at the bottom of large slopes. I hope you weren't above the hole on those, I was. Greens were softer due to the weekend rains so it was easier to hold greens and attack pins, except for the 5 or 6 pin locations that were on the very edges of the greens. Don't short side yourself, I did.

Fairways and rough were in good fall shape.

Bunkers were a mix. Some were low on sand, and with the rains, compacted mud. If you got in a deep greenside bunker like that, it was disaster.

Outstanding practice facility, and the staff is extremely helpful. Highly recommended!
11 Likes.
Out early at TC on 10/15. Played the Stonehouse/Oaks rotation in just under 3 hours as a threesome.

Course is in very nice condition. Greens are very good, quick and quite soft. Fairways and rough pretty good, every once in a while you'd find a bad area, but not too often. Tee boxes were very good.

For some reason they are completely ignoring the sand traps. I didn't get in any fortunately, but my playing partners just tried once and then took drops outside for the rest of the round. Really surprised the course doesn't at least have the crew rake the sand once a day, that would be the only negative for an otherwise really nice morning at the course.

I finally had a decent score on the Stonehouse 9. I still think that is my least favorite 9 holes in SoCal. I think the tee shot on #1 just immediately puts me in a bad mental state. It requires a giant slinging duck hook. I fade the ball. Today, I decided to just tee off with a 3w on this Par 5. Hit a nice stinger, maybe 10-20 feet inside the left tree line. Stays right on that line down the left edge, and I think I have finally hit a good shot on #1. Walk down the left edge of the fairway....nothing. Center of the fairway...nothing. My playing partners yell that there is a Titleist just short of the right bunker. That's me....a straight ball off the tee down the left edge ends up nearly in the bunker right of the fairway. I hate that tee shot.

Except for the #1 Stonehouse tee shot.....HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
9 Likes.
Out early on 9/25 at Talega.

The good.....the greens are in good shape, smooth, medium speed. The fairways are better than I have seen them here in a long time.

The bad.....the rough is very odd. Super plush in spots, then 20 yards of bare dirt.

The ugly....the fringe is downright pathetic on several greens. But the green is fine? I don't know what can happen right on the green/fringe border, but something freaky is going on.

The beyond ugly....WTF is going on with the tee boxes? I hope they are in the "destroy them before the rebuild" phase, because 75% of the tee boxes are just awful. My playing partners said it was reseeding time, I sure hope so, but I didn't see any maintenance working on them.

One of my favorite layouts, but man I hope this is the storm before the calm. Still, they were pretty well packed with players. Glad I was using one of my player's card discount rounds because if I had paid the $105 rack rate, I would be furious.

I cannot recommend at this time, unless at a Muni rate.
8 Likes.
Played MSQ Players on 9/9.

Greens are soft and smooth except for a unrepaired ball mark here and there. Medium to slow speed. Pretty good greens for a low price muni.

Fairways and rough were in good shape, with a bad patch here and there.

I put some pretty bad scores onto the tee boxes. My guess is they don't move the tee markers much now, as the tee boxes away from the markers looked fine. But at the markers, it was really beaten up. Just move the tee markers.

I think this layout is one of the best low price publics out there. Just a fun track to play, with no bad holes, usually in very playable condition. Hope I can get back out before it goes away. Too bad.
7 Likes.
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