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This is a very good course I played today and there was a wait on every tee so it took five hours. Grass range and large chipping green and large putting green. Clubhouse is very modest. This is way out there so you know there's going to be at least a one to three club wind every single time you play there.
The grass today was very good. Fairways lush and rough cut low. The greens must have been recently punched within four weeks because putts were bumping down the line.
The greens are very well designed. They have turtle back portions which means you can hit the green and end up chipping back from 15 yards. They are generally huge greens with all kinds of fun runs and bends in them. Great well thought out greens.
The front is a bit tight with most holes unto themselves. Hit it straight. Not a big fan of three par threes which is what the front has.
The back is much more wide open and much more beautiful. The last three holes are just a wonder. The par five 17th is amazingly beautiful off the tee and reachable as are all the par fives. That just makes golf more fun.
The most amazing thing about this highly enjoyable track is the finishing hole. Number 18 is perhaps the greatest finishing hole I've ever played. There's water down the right side all the way from all tees to the green. You hit it 280 on the left side of the fairway and you will have 200 into the green with water edging it for its full length on the right. The tee shot calls for a fade towards the water which if hit perfectly could leave you 150 in but if not then wet wet wet. It is really a spectacularly brilliant hole that itself is worth the trip out.
I highly recommend this course.
23 Likes.
Played here yesterday for the first time in 20 years. I shot 80 with two doubles.

The good: very walkable flat course with some interesting holes. The greens are well tended with multi tiers and incredibly sloping undulations that may have you putting with your back to the hole on occasion. They protect par here with their difficult greens. Their practice facilities are above average with a nice chipping area behind the range.

The bad: they don't open the range until 7 so early risers have to go down there and shag some balls to hit to warm up. They are in the midst of a re-sodding of their fairways. There are major swaths of all fairways that you literally can hit off--free drop. Definately wait until this project is completed (?) until you try this one. The practice greens are perfect and fast. Then you hit the course and the greens are very slow, nothing like what you warmed up with. The course for whatever reason is sopping wet with standing water in almost every fairway. Rough in many spots is way over grown to past my knees (I'm 6-2).

This course was designed by William Bell and it is a classic parkland layout. Many doglegs, bunkers in the middle of fairways and water coming way into play on several holes. If you hit a bad shot and it's not swallowed up by water hazards or the swamp like conditions besides many fairways, then you can find it and most often have a shoot to the green. Surprisingly for a course built 50 years ago there aren't very many mature trees. A few of the holes make a loop through condos on the back nine, which are a bit gimmicky and not up to the design par of the rest of this track.

I would definately play here again but not for at least six months. This is a very short course that's about 6500 from the tips. It's very player friendly especially from tee to green. A good place to take your buddy struggling to break 90 for the first time.
5 Likes.
Played here last weekend for the first time. Shot 80.
Positive: the best thing about this course is the awesome iPhone app that serves as a detailed yardage book and then turn it sideways and it automatically starts a detailed flyover of the hole.
This is a beautiful course with babbling brooks and lots of old growth scrub oaks. Very verdant.
As an actual golf course it's in pretty good shape. Fairways are lush and greens rolling true. Lots of hitting off of the tops of mountains which can be fun. No need to ever hit driver on any hole if you can pop it out there beyond 230 with a three wood or hybrid.
And right there is the problem. This is really a golf course designed for the novice golfer who gets out a few times a year. It's absolutely un-walkable. There are so many gimmicky bs holes that it's just a joke after a while. There's a 250 yard par three into the wind off a mountain. There's a par five to a bottleneck fairway that demand a layup off the tee. On a par five. Then there's the fact we were almost killed by goofballs from the range and other players five times. Balls flew in from other holes within feet of us on the green.
If you're a regular golfer who can shoot below 100 don't go here. There are just too many other choices for a complete 18 hole course that allows for gripping and ripping and would be way more fun and true to the game.
5 Likes.
Range is nice but steeply uphill. Nicest grass at this semi-private facility.
Fairways are very thin and spotty.
Greens are turtlebackish but mostly large and flat. They roll fairly true, about an eight on the stimp. Most of the greens are bunker free, uphill with ample chipping areas.
This is a very narrow course with three sets of 9. It's what I would classify as a gimmicky course. The fairways are generally rediculously narrow. You have to hit over many canyons and off the tops of many mountains, literally.
The only course built in the last 20 years that is a true to golf course is Rustic. Courses like this one are just a joke. Golf is not meant to be played to a 20 yard wide fairway. Like Angeles, the cost of water and land seemed to play the most important factor in the design.
Beyond this though there is a much bigger problem. The clubhouse and attendants definitely have a private country club feel. And they sent us off as a twosome followed by two more twosomes behind us. And that's country clubish too. But the members there get carts emblazoned with MEMBER on it. Who needs it? Not me.
I will never return to this place. There are some very memorable holes. But I would rate many many courses ahead of this place even without the resentful membership.
4 Likes.
Was out in Fontana ("Fontuckey") today on business. Was done early so I hopped on GolfNow.com and got a $10 savings on a 10 am time. Coming from LA, the traffic is all going in the opposite direction. I covered the 50 miles in 45 minutes both before and after the round. Easy drive.
The range is great. Grass and matts which is a bit rare.
The course right now is in fantastic shape. Unlike many dry and bare tight lie courses in LA, this Ted Robinson designed gem is well watered. Fairways are plush. No hard pan here. It's not fluffy but it's very nice. The rough is fair and short. Greens are definately harder to hold out of the rough. The greens are sloped. Not too many flat putts here. Some multi tiered but mostly it's sloped back to front with many approach shots being about a half a club uphill. Many of the par threes are over water. The greens right now are running true and on the slower side which is ok since you'll be facing many downhillers.

The thing about this course is its wide open. When I say wide open I mean WIDE WIDE WIDE fairways. There are many strategically placed bunkers throughout. The layout is very very fun. It's almost impossible to lose your ball but errant shots are definately penalized with the sand and many immature trees.

The course meanders through a bedroom community. But unlike other courses like this (eg River Ridge or Tustin Ranch) these houses are so far from the fairways and the fairways are so gigantic (literally the biggest I've ever seen) they just don't ever come into play. However they are ever-present and don't do anything but detract from the otherwise stunning beauty of this amazing track. What does enhance it's beauty are the also ever present mountains which cannot be escaped. Today they were and soaring and green.

This is a resort style desert/Palm Spring-like type course. It's very fun. It can be walked but it's hilly and would be a very tough trek. They serve the most delicious and truly gargantuan hotdogs here. They are literally the biggest dogs I've ever seen.

In short this place is a must play. I'll be back.
3 Likes.
Ok this course is overpriced. But they charge it because they can get it, and here's why:
This is one of the best tracks in all of California. Fazio has taken a plot of flat land and turned it into a masterpiece. The grass is lush carpet like. Each hole is unique and isolated. You will almost never see any other golfers throughout your round. It's a very tough walk but doable. Every single hole has both up and down hills. Most greens are elevated and multi-tiered. The landing areas off each tee are very generous. You really have to hit a crappy shot to lose a ball off a tee. Unlike say a Nichlaus course where you can hit a good straight shot and end up in a bunker, Fazio tends to put his traps in spaces where it has to take a very bad shot to get into. This is a beautiful parkland course where clearly the architecture was dictated by the unrestrained vision of a design genius and not by the cost of water or limited space.

They are trying to be high end service wise but just are not there. They need to take a trip to Trump if they want to see how it's done. The range is grass and nice. The chipping green is small. Food and beverage is wanting.

But the golf, oh the golf. Such a great track with so many great holes. 18 for example is a peninsula green par five that's reachable for better players. But the second shot requires between 220 to 170 yards almost all carry over water to a left to right green with very little behind it if you go long. So you can go for glory are layup and try for the long pitch and one putt birdie. There are seventeen other scenarios almost all as intriguing and wonderful as 18. This course is right up there with any other daily fee course around. It's a must play. Enjoy!!
10 Likes.
IN DEFENSE OF WOODLEY LAKES
People generally decry Woodley as a "dog track". But that's just wrong. A dog track as to any golf course should refer just to its grass and its routing. And both of these factors are fine with this course. It is flat. It is open. But that doesn't make it a mutt.

Now Woodley does have a grass range that is a bit sandy and nothing like the course. Sometimes it can be so iffy I will hit all my warmup shots off a tee. And the putting green is sloping and hilly, fun to practice but again nothing like the greens in the course. They do have a grass chipping area with a practice bunker.

People bash Woodley because it's wide open with flat big greens. What's wrong with that? If you hit an errant tee shot here the odds are very good you will have a playable lie unblocked by any of the relatively young, intermittent trees that line every fairway.

The fairways are a patchwork of differ kinds of grasses and lies, from hard pan to Palm Springs fluff. The grass overall is better than almost all City courses. You can take a divot without breaking your wrist in the fairway and you can find your ball in the rough usually without the help of your playing partners.

The greens are large and flat. You will have some very long putts. When I played last Thursday they are rolling true at about 8-9.

The routing of Woodley is fun, especially since they removed the interior out of bounds. The par fives are reachable for good players but demand placement of the tee shot on a proper side of the fairway to get there. Three of the par threes are long. From the blacks you have over 200 on two and the other is a carry over water and reeds to a totally blind green about a buck 75 out. There a holes that require right to left tee shots and holes that call for a cut tee shot. And when you're talking back to back tough, there is no more difficult combination of a two hole stretch in the City rota than numbers nine and 10 at Woodley. Many a golfer has come to nine at even or better and then stepped on the 11th tee three or four shots worse for wear. Par par on those two is the hardest test there is of any City or County course.

Now Woodely is not Wilson or Rancho. It's a challenge for sure, especially if the wind is blowing. Woodley is where you go to build confidence and try things out on the course for the first time after a lesson. It's a confidence builder and it's fun, very fun. I play there at least six times a year and love it.

It's right by Ban Nuys airport so if your into 100 million dollar private jets taking off and landing that's an extra bonus of the course.

The new restaurant is trying to be high end. The food is good but expensive relative to other courses. The halfway hose in the course doesn't have ice which seems impossible, especially because Woodley temps routinely top 100 in the summers. No other course attracts birds like Woodely, so be prepared to decontaminate your shoes and pushcart of the Canadian Goose crap.

Another good thing about Woodley is you can always get on. Not many tournaments (any?) and never a wait. Average stroll during the week is about 4.5 hrs.

Look at the yardage and look at the slope and rating. Woodley is very very fun course that deserves to be played.
8 Likes.
Greens in good shape. Fairways very thin and tight.
This Nicklaus design is ludicrous. It's a perfect example of architecture dictated by the cost of water and "environmental protection" no walk areas. The fairways run and run so driver isn't necessary on all holes. But they are so narrow that even ten yards off the make can result in a lost ball.
This is a wind course. If you play the odds are it will be at least a two club wind on several holes. But it comes and goes depending on where you are on the track.
This is a very beautiful setting surrounded by develiped and undeveloped hills and long wide open vistas. This course is un-walkable and not even sure if they allow it. The on cart gps was usually about five yards off from my laser.
The practice facilities are great. All grass and fair prices. Make sure to take advantage of the huge and undulating chipping green in the back of the range. The best by far in SoCal.
If you enjoy bloody Marys then you must try their homemade mix composed of grilled veggies. I always get a cup sans alcohol. Go with the burger not the dog. Order as you're going to 10 and ask them to ride it out to you on the course, a fine service I wish more high end courses offer. The chile is a pass.
All and all this is a course I play a few times a year. It's a challenge but you really have to be in the mood.
7 Likes.
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