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Golf Course Reviews: California, Arizona, Nevada, Texas, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Utah, Florida, Hawaii!Managed to avoid Whittier Narrows my entire life because of the perception that it's not a very nice golf course... and it turns out it was exactly how I thought it'd be. Was out Saturday 1/18 at 9:54 walking the blues. We were doing the River/Pine routing and the first tee had a two group back up. Slow play continued for most of the front, with at least a one group wait on every box. Things did manage to open up after the turn but they let fivesomes out there so prepare for a slow day.
In fairness, the conditions themselves might have been a little better than I anticipated as I did enjoy the layout and the challenge (course has some length and if you're out of position in the trees just take your medicine), but the conditions certainly weren't great. Tee boxes were mostly level however there were a few where you'd be off balance. Fairways were mostly good with some roll out with decent lies but once you ventured off a little lies got a lot more dicey. Lots of bare spots for sure.
One highlight was how nice the greens were. Even the area around the green was nice to putt or chip from. Honestly can make up for a lot of other shortcomings as the greens (while not very large) were mostly free of pitch marks and rolled at a medium-fast pace and true. I was in a couple of bunkers and was surprised they had plenty of sand as well.
Truly feel like this place has potential and I'd play here again but would stop short of recommending it or making it a top choice.
In fairness, the conditions themselves might have been a little better than I anticipated as I did enjoy the layout and the challenge (course has some length and if you're out of position in the trees just take your medicine), but the conditions certainly weren't great. Tee boxes were mostly level however there were a few where you'd be off balance. Fairways were mostly good with some roll out with decent lies but once you ventured off a little lies got a lot more dicey. Lots of bare spots for sure.
One highlight was how nice the greens were. Even the area around the green was nice to putt or chip from. Honestly can make up for a lot of other shortcomings as the greens (while not very large) were mostly free of pitch marks and rolled at a medium-fast pace and true. I was in a couple of bunkers and was surprised they had plenty of sand as well.
Truly feel like this place has potential and I'd play here again but would stop short of recommending it or making it a top choice.
Walked the whites Sunday 8/4 at 11:40. Hot day but the golf was pretty good. Hadn't been here since spring and was glad to see the course still in good shape. Tee boxes were a little overgrown in spots, but overall mostly level. Fairways here can be on the narrow side, especially on the front, and were somewhat on the thin side, but overall in good shape. Was in a few bunkers and a few had really nice sand and others were a little thin, so inconsistent for sure. Greens were in good shape, very soft, and people need to fix their pitch marks, but they rolled good if a little slow.
Overall a fun course that challenges you with some length and accuracy. POP was actually not awful at 5 hours; i usually budget 5.5+ here on weekends. Would recommend
Overall a fun course that challenges you with some length and accuracy. POP was actually not awful at 5 hours; i usually budget 5.5+ here on weekends. Would recommend
Played Saturday 7/13 with an 11:30am tee time from the blues. Would have walked but learned the only way to book a walking rate is directly through their site or calling in. Cart on a hot day isn't the worst thing either.
They're doing some sort of renovation on the clubhouse as the restrooms between the pro shop and restaurant are out of order so you have to use the mobile trailer they have set up next to the starter window. Restaurant was very empty, but they have a decent menu if you want to grab a bite before or after a round. I ended up with a delicious breakfast sandwich and then went to the range to warm up. Unfortunately there are no distance markers or targets so it's hard to really dial in, but at least you can get loose.
Course is in good shape. Tee boxes were mostly level, though a few were definitely more sloped and you'd had to set up on the edge of the marker to be level. Greens were in very good shape, soft and receptive and running a little slower than i remembered. They were running sprinklers on certain fairways and greens during the round so speeds might have varied due to watering. Fairways were in mostly good shape, rough wasn't too tall or penal, and the bunkers i was in had some sand in them which was nice.
Tough track if you can't find the fairway! A lot of folks yelling "FORE" pretty constantly so keep your head on a swivel out there. The group in front of us was having a pretty rough go of it on a few holes but even with waiting on most tee boxes our foursome finished in a tidy 4 hours which i'll take every day of the week.
They're doing some sort of renovation on the clubhouse as the restrooms between the pro shop and restaurant are out of order so you have to use the mobile trailer they have set up next to the starter window. Restaurant was very empty, but they have a decent menu if you want to grab a bite before or after a round. I ended up with a delicious breakfast sandwich and then went to the range to warm up. Unfortunately there are no distance markers or targets so it's hard to really dial in, but at least you can get loose.
Course is in good shape. Tee boxes were mostly level, though a few were definitely more sloped and you'd had to set up on the edge of the marker to be level. Greens were in very good shape, soft and receptive and running a little slower than i remembered. They were running sprinklers on certain fairways and greens during the round so speeds might have varied due to watering. Fairways were in mostly good shape, rough wasn't too tall or penal, and the bunkers i was in had some sand in them which was nice.
Tough track if you can't find the fairway! A lot of folks yelling "FORE" pretty constantly so keep your head on a swivel out there. The group in front of us was having a pretty rough go of it on a few holes but even with waiting on most tee boxes our foursome finished in a tidy 4 hours which i'll take every day of the week.
Played the blues on Saturday 6/22. Had a 1pm tee time so prepared for a slow round but it wound up pushing the very limits of acceptability. Not sure what's happened to the greens here but it's been a month since their second punching of the season and they're still not rolling well. Putts do not hold their lines and bobble quite a bit. There is also some variance in green speeds as some are not cut as low as others. Extremely frustrating. Other parts of the course are good, though some of the tee positions are pushed way back into areas that weren't level. Fairway conditions are good, rough can be thick and penal. Was in a couple of bunkers and one had no sand and one had excellent sand.
Pace of place was brutal at 5.5 hours with 2-3 group back ups on par 3s common. Folks need to learn to play tees commensurate with their ability but part of why it was taking groups so long to finish holes was due to the greens being hard to putt on.
Hope Chester can get their greens back in good shape because I enjoy this track a lot but I'd avoid for a while.
Pace of place was brutal at 5.5 hours with 2-3 group back ups on par 3s common. Folks need to learn to play tees commensurate with their ability but part of why it was taking groups so long to finish holes was due to the greens being hard to putt on.
Hope Chester can get their greens back in good shape because I enjoy this track a lot but I'd avoid for a while.
Pretty much going to echo my review of Wilson here. Played Harding on Sunday for round 2 of the LA City tournament and conditions are very similar. Still unsure really which of the two is actually "easier" even though by rating it would be Harding. Both courses have very straightforward easy holes, but a number of them are sharp doglegs that require a good tee ball to be in position for your approach. Can definitely find yourself lost in the trees scrambling.
I will say there is probably nothing harder to me on both courses than holes 11/12. 11 is a dogleg right onto a fairly narrow fairway so if you over cut (or in my case slice it 50 yards) or hit a draw or straight ball you're on another fairway. On 12 there's the freeway right with a large net that is actually fairly forgiving if you hit it but it's still a nervy tee shot.
I will say over two days I didn't hit the ball into one bunker so I can't comment on conditions but it at least appeared that they had sand.
Definitely a great weekend playing both courses back to back and if you're able to do so, I'd highly recommend doing it!
I will say there is probably nothing harder to me on both courses than holes 11/12. 11 is a dogleg right onto a fairly narrow fairway so if you over cut (or in my case slice it 50 yards) or hit a draw or straight ball you're on another fairway. On 12 there's the freeway right with a large net that is actually fairly forgiving if you hit it but it's still a nervy tee shot.
I will say over two days I didn't hit the ball into one bunker so I can't comment on conditions but it at least appeared that they had sand.
Definitely a great weekend playing both courses back to back and if you're able to do so, I'd highly recommend doing it!
Playing in the LA City tournament this past weekend and first up was Wilson on Saturday. Mainly played in this to secure a tee time :) For a course that as busy as this it's amazing it doesn't get reviewed more. Always fun to play these courses as they're challenging as well as scenic. Had a beautiful hike through Griffith Park on a very warm summer day chasing my ball all over the place. Have to say the course is in very good shape. Playing from the white tees, most were level and in decent shape with some divot damage but nothing terrible. Fairways had good coverage and rough was fairly thick and juicy. Could certainly lose track of a wayward drive in that stuff. Greens were rolling very nice, medium fast pace, and they were firm. A lot of approaches wound up scooting through the back.
Great track, can't wait to get back and play it again soon
Great track, can't wait to get back and play it again soon
been about a year since i've been back here, but i found a deal and wanted to test my game out. conditions were actually pretty good; the bermuda fairways are coming back to life, the tee boxes were lush and level and the greens were in good shape with minimal pitch marks. pins were still in tough spots and putting was a challenge. not only to read breaks and speed but i totally forgot you have take grain into account.
since rain was in the forecast, the course was fairly sparse, and i ended up going out a little before my tee time with another single who i had happened to play with before. POP was really excellent; i think we finished the front in 90 minutes. it was CPO on a couple of holes, but to be expected after all the rain. course itself had dried out very nicely, except for a few bunkers that had a substantial amount of standing water and were to be played as ground under repair.
Overall had a nice time, and the course is always a challenge, especially when the wind kicks up. i was surprised that the pro shop and bar were already closed up at 3pm, not sure if that's normal or an easter thing but something to note if you have a later tee time. no other way to get drinks or food otherwise.
since rain was in the forecast, the course was fairly sparse, and i ended up going out a little before my tee time with another single who i had happened to play with before. POP was really excellent; i think we finished the front in 90 minutes. it was CPO on a couple of holes, but to be expected after all the rain. course itself had dried out very nicely, except for a few bunkers that had a substantial amount of standing water and were to be played as ground under repair.
Overall had a nice time, and the course is always a challenge, especially when the wind kicks up. i was surprised that the pro shop and bar were already closed up at 3pm, not sure if that's normal or an easter thing but something to note if you have a later tee time. no other way to get drinks or food otherwise.
Back here on Saturday 3/23 with a noon tee time. Course was fairly empty considering it rained all morning but cleared up nicely by tee time. Unfortunately the rain caused the range to close so no warm up. They do have a little chipping area near the first tee at least. Even with the rain that morning, the course dried nicely and was easy to walk.
Pace was surprisingly very good all day. In fact, our threesome was behind a foursome and we were on them all day but if we'd gone first we probably would have finished in 3.5. Still, getting around in 4 was a treat.
Like I said in my last review, I really like this course. It's not a difficult course but on a day that's windy the longish par 4s become very difficult when the breeze is blowing 15-20 directly into. Very small greens so it becomes a real GIR test. Overall conditions are very good, with good tee and fairway coverage, and some rough that's cut down and not very penal. Unfortunately I didn't get the aeration notice so the greens are still very bumpy but other than that it was a fun round. Didn't get into any bunkers but they did look like jail with hard or minimal sand/dirt. So avoid those.
Definitely recommend once the greens heal up, though I would expect the usual jammed up tee sheet when that happens.
Pace was surprisingly very good all day. In fact, our threesome was behind a foursome and we were on them all day but if we'd gone first we probably would have finished in 3.5. Still, getting around in 4 was a treat.
Like I said in my last review, I really like this course. It's not a difficult course but on a day that's windy the longish par 4s become very difficult when the breeze is blowing 15-20 directly into. Very small greens so it becomes a real GIR test. Overall conditions are very good, with good tee and fairway coverage, and some rough that's cut down and not very penal. Unfortunately I didn't get the aeration notice so the greens are still very bumpy but other than that it was a fun round. Didn't get into any bunkers but they did look like jail with hard or minimal sand/dirt. So avoid those.
Definitely recommend once the greens heal up, though I would expect the usual jammed up tee sheet when that happens.
Found a good deal here for 11am on Saturday 3/2 as a twosome going out with a single. Since rain was in the forecast the course was fairly empty, but busier than you'd think as it was the only one in the area not doing CPO. Since my last review I'm happy to say I've changed my tune a bit on this place. They finally have a pro shop and apparently a restaurant open again.
Conditions were very, very wet, but beyond that the layout is actually kind of fun but does require good shots. A lot of different hole types and challenging green complexes. Not a course I'd want to play all the time but a fun change of pace. Typically the pace of place here can be brutal but since the weather kept a lot of folks away we finished in about 3.5.
Teeboxes can be a little uneven, fairways had mostly good coverage, bunkers seemed to have sand, and the greens were in very good shape.
Can't wait to go back and play once things dry out
Conditions were very, very wet, but beyond that the layout is actually kind of fun but does require good shots. A lot of different hole types and challenging green complexes. Not a course I'd want to play all the time but a fun change of pace. Typically the pace of place here can be brutal but since the weather kept a lot of folks away we finished in about 3.5.
Teeboxes can be a little uneven, fairways had mostly good coverage, bunkers seemed to have sand, and the greens were in very good shape.
Can't wait to go back and play once things dry out
Out at 11:08 Sunday 2/25 as a single walking joined by a couple riding and another walker. As is usual here, the pace is very very slow. On a mid-day weekend you just have to mentally prepare for a 5.5 hour round. Teed off about 10 minutes past and for the most part had a wait into every hole. The worst bottleneck has to be on hole 3 which is a very tight par 5 tee shot. Someone in our group called the pro shop and someone from the shop did go out to try and find out what the hold up was. Didn't help much. Front 9 POP about 3 hours, though things tend to open up on the back.
POP aside, the course is in decent shape at the moment. Fairways besides being narrow generally have tight lies, some bare spots, but overall didn't have issues. Rough could be very juicy and penal, seems like they're letting it grow out so it's lush and a ball could find itself buried easily. Greens and sand were highlights. Found a number of bunkers and they all had good sand to splash from. Greens were in good shape, rolling at a medium pace, very pure with minimal ball mark damage. Tee boxes were okay, fairly worn with divots, some muddy, but mostly level.
Overall a challenging track that I personally find enjoyable. A good variety of holes with long par 3s, shortish par 5s and par 4s that make you strategize on tee shots. It is hard to stay in rhythm when the POP is slow but other than that would recommend.
POP aside, the course is in decent shape at the moment. Fairways besides being narrow generally have tight lies, some bare spots, but overall didn't have issues. Rough could be very juicy and penal, seems like they're letting it grow out so it's lush and a ball could find itself buried easily. Greens and sand were highlights. Found a number of bunkers and they all had good sand to splash from. Greens were in good shape, rolling at a medium pace, very pure with minimal ball mark damage. Tee boxes were okay, fairly worn with divots, some muddy, but mostly level.
Overall a challenging track that I personally find enjoyable. A good variety of holes with long par 3s, shortish par 5s and par 4s that make you strategize on tee shots. It is hard to stay in rhythm when the POP is slow but other than that would recommend.
Played here Super Bowl Sunday 2/11 as a single paired with a threesome of an older couple and a sister in law, all in their 70s from Canada down on a golf trip. They'd played here a lot and told me as a first timer that I was in for a treat and they were not kidding. The history of the course is pretty cool as it used to be private then fell into hard times but now it's back to its former glory.
The layout is fairly typical for resort style courses, routing you thru homes but the backdrops of the mountains was really incredible. A perfect February day with full sunshine, minimal wind and mid 60s temps, I couldn't have asked for better conditions. The course itself looks pristine. From teebox to green I couldn't find any real blemishes. Fairways were a pleasure to hit from, rough could get a little sticky but not too penal, and the bunkers were full of fluffy sand. Truly felt like you were playing a private course.
Speaking of which, the service is top notch. After I pulled into the parking lot someone came out to my car with the cart and loaded me up. Then checked in and went across the street to the grass range (which if we're being picky, didn't offer great lies) and putting green. Ordered a sandwich as the restaurant and it took longer than expected but they wound up sending someone out to deliver it to my cart on the second hole.
Decided to play up to the bronze tees with the other gentleman to keep things more social and at 6000 yards it was neither short nor long. Certainly helped playing with someone with some course knowledge as there are plenty of holes where what you see is what you get but on the dogleg holes his advice certainly helped on where to aim. POP was perfect, just about 4 hours. Had a really great time and was happy to have played here. Would definitely make it a point to come back and play here or the south course next time I visit.
The layout is fairly typical for resort style courses, routing you thru homes but the backdrops of the mountains was really incredible. A perfect February day with full sunshine, minimal wind and mid 60s temps, I couldn't have asked for better conditions. The course itself looks pristine. From teebox to green I couldn't find any real blemishes. Fairways were a pleasure to hit from, rough could get a little sticky but not too penal, and the bunkers were full of fluffy sand. Truly felt like you were playing a private course.
Speaking of which, the service is top notch. After I pulled into the parking lot someone came out to my car with the cart and loaded me up. Then checked in and went across the street to the grass range (which if we're being picky, didn't offer great lies) and putting green. Ordered a sandwich as the restaurant and it took longer than expected but they wound up sending someone out to deliver it to my cart on the second hole.
Decided to play up to the bronze tees with the other gentleman to keep things more social and at 6000 yards it was neither short nor long. Certainly helped playing with someone with some course knowledge as there are plenty of holes where what you see is what you get but on the dogleg holes his advice certainly helped on where to aim. POP was perfect, just about 4 hours. Had a really great time and was happy to have played here. Would definitely make it a point to come back and play here or the south course next time I visit.
played here saturday 12/16 as a threesome. never played here before, but thinking it was a course along the river, figured it'd be fairly flat. WRONG. this is a pretty tough course for walkers, with a lot of ups and downs and long tee to green walks through some interesting terrain.
certainly not a very pretty course as it runs alongside the river. many holes are very very narrow and close to each other, so it's very target golf oriented. not a forgiving course, especially if you're not sure where to miss. a lot of tiny fairways that roll out into a sandy/watery wasteland area. some of those sandy areas are very beach-like and you can hit off them but not fun.
tee boxes were all pretty beat up, fairways had decent lies, some better than others. greens are in good shape but could not judge speeds on them all day. some were very soft, many of the greens are also very small.
pace of play is awful. basically a wait on every tee box, sometimes 2 groups behind. overall a little over 5.5 hours. as i mentioned, not a course conducive to walking as there were no benches anywhere on the course. there was a cart girl, but she was parked.
definitely won't be coming back here any time soon as the course is just too gimicky for my liking
certainly not a very pretty course as it runs alongside the river. many holes are very very narrow and close to each other, so it's very target golf oriented. not a forgiving course, especially if you're not sure where to miss. a lot of tiny fairways that roll out into a sandy/watery wasteland area. some of those sandy areas are very beach-like and you can hit off them but not fun.
tee boxes were all pretty beat up, fairways had decent lies, some better than others. greens are in good shape but could not judge speeds on them all day. some were very soft, many of the greens are also very small.
pace of play is awful. basically a wait on every tee box, sometimes 2 groups behind. overall a little over 5.5 hours. as i mentioned, not a course conducive to walking as there were no benches anywhere on the course. there was a cart girl, but she was parked.
definitely won't be coming back here any time soon as the course is just too gimicky for my liking
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