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Pleased to report that Rams Hill has regained its former luster. Times two! Played three rounds last week and had a blast. The new turf is virtually all in, and it’s the best turf I ever have played, ball sits up nicely, took wonderful divots, rough was lush but not too penal. Bunkers in great shape. Greens still new and very firm and can glimpse the last aeration holes, but they roll true and very fast. Staff is first rate all around. Still free tacos (but tip the girl!) at 11/14 and warm cookie at the end of the round. Excellent range with scopes at each station, two terrific short game areas, one with bunkers (it’s at the far end of the main range). Layout hasn’t changed, this is a forgiving course off the tee but as you learn the course you find there are really good angles that reward a smart drive. The approaches are the challenge, especially with the firm greens, really fun when you learn the rewarding angles— several greens will kill you with a shot at the pin, there are several you actually must hit well away from the green to get the good bounce and roll down to the hole. The greens are fast and subtle, play with less break than you think standing over the ball. The par threes are fairly ordinary, 11 being the most challenging downhill with water on the left and a big right to left green. For a normal length hitter from the correct tee, one par five is truly in reach, others can get you close for a fun pitch or short iron to the pin. Good variety of par fours, couple short ones that aren’t Drive able but close. It’s playable for a 15 handicap from the correct tees—four sets of tees and three combinations on the card—and challenging for a low handicapper.

Borrego Springs can get a LOT of wind; the first day was calm, the second a three to four club wind consistently on the final 7 holes, one to three club wind on those holes the third day, but while really windy on the range, the first 11 holes are a bit insulated and were not bad at all. I was worried on day two on the range, but even the final holes played fun in the wind.

This is back to being my first choice three or four day getaway, happy to play that course over and over again, as you learn its angles it can really reward smart shots, lots of overall distances to play from, great practice areas, great food, really nice people. I don’t know what is or isn’t a “fair” price for golf anymore, but I have to say I do t feel like I paid too much, I feel like I got what I should for the price in every respect.

RH has even more “stay and play” lodgings on the property now, and I am sure they all are good; La Casa Del Zorro down the road is a rustic La Quinta-like resort I li,e a lot and with a truly exceptional restaurant, and Stanlund’s Inn & Suites a little closer to town is a great budget option. The little town is a blast, several decent restaurants, no chains or fast food options, pretty rustic. Getting there is not an easy drive, but really pretty. If you are into camping or have an RV, you have many options, including in the surrounding desert park with its incredible metal sculptures all around.
13 Likes.
Was happy to be able to play a few rounds at Rams Hill upon its seasonal reopening. Let me start by saying I love the drive into Borrego Springs, I love Borrego Springs itself, I love the course layout, and I love the Rams Hill facility generally. This is an exceptionally well run place from reservations to arrival to warmup to serious practice to tee time management and to course care. That said, I am sorry to report that the course still has a lot of fairway problems, I think even more than last season, and it is just a bit of a disappointment given the work I know they have put into it. When the turf here is at its best, it is unsurpassed; but most of the fairways have some bare spots and often in the landing area. So my detailed ratings are not as high as they normally would be—but I still rate the place highly and recommend it. I look forward to returning later in the season to see if the turf work that they obviously are invested in pays off. If so, this place is under priced, but right now the rack rate is too high for the course conditions. Much of the value is just being in this area, it is unique and well worth a visit.

The tees and most of the rough are in beautiful shape, a few sets of tees look almost like artificial turf, they are that smooth and lush and level. In some places the rough is at least 5 inches and thick—the fairway issues can’t be water issues, the course is very well irrigated and drains beautifully. The greens are very receptive, roll true, and in great shape—good putts are rewarded here, play a little less break than you think. They are running a bit slower than they will be as they harden up, but still very smooth and fair. The bunkers are perfect, just the right amount of sand and evenly dispersed, the crew who tends to them every day really knows what to do to avoid compaction and uneven sand. The course has appealing surrounds, but they are not overdone. So if they can get the fairways all to come in evenly, man, this place would really be superior. But it is simply disappointing to hit a great drive and find yourself on thin, bare, still seeded fairway turf.

I believe I have played about 8 rounds here on four trips over the past three years or so. Wind always has been an issue, sometimes severely so. However, it is always worse around the clubhouse and range than on the course, some of which is shielded, so it is annoying but not unplayable, don’t let it scare you off a visit.

The first couple of weeks of the season are cartpath only as the course continues to come into shape, and with some very wide expanses from cartpath to course, it definitely impacts pace of play. Good for exercise, though. I love to walk with a push cart, and it is allowed and can be done here, but the front nine would be a pretty good slog, some decent hills and several long green to tee distances. I don’t recommend it.

My previous review still holds up otherwise, so I won’t repeat it. This is a really good layout with several quite memorable holes, it is in overall great shape and will be exceptional if the fairways come in better as the season progresses, and the drive in is just, well, wow, the area is really a must see. The course is challenging but playable for all handicaps. The range and several practice areas are terrific, it is a great place to work on all aspects of your game. It has a great restaurant and bar. I am rooting for the fairways to come in, and definitely will be back again, soon, to find out.
13 Likes.
Another Monday (11/15), another private club GK/GolfMoose outing, another Ted Robinson design, and another very enjoyable day! This is very much a city golf course, built into the hillsides just above the 118 Freeway, tree-lined and occasionally tight, some great valley views, a few nice little ponds, and it plays about 400 yards longer than the 6100 yards from the blacks because darn near every hole is at least slightly uphill. The main challenge is presented by the uncomplicated smooth but small greens that roll true but are quite deceptive because of the surrounding hills—very easy to read too much break and occasionally being above the hole is a death sentence. Deceptively challenging, with a few genuinely beautiful holes, this is a course that would be very fun to play regularly. Only downside is one too many par threes, which at least today is what caused us to get slowed down quite a bit and cost us at least an extra 20 minutes on the round; one of them is quite long and contributes to more that usual slowing at the short holes. Still, there is much to like about this design that makes the most of the hillsides and is exceedingly well maintained.

As always, registration was smooth as silk with Johnny on the scene and cooperative golfers eager to get out to the course. The range is smallish and distance restricted, but the practice putting green is superb because it is pretty flat and allows for good calibration prior to the round. (Didn’t help me, as it turned out.) The course is in beautiful condition all around, one of the best maintained I have played of late; few brown spots anywhere, and they put the money and time into the playing areas. The routing makes great use of the hillsides; there is one very steep downhill par 4, nothing else is severe but almost always gradually uphill. The course is right there in front of you, well bunkered, and fair but occasionally narrow landing areas. The turf is great, but does not provide a lot of roll out; every yard of distance is truly earned.

If given a chance to play here, take it. It is a fun city course and will reward good ball striking and test your putting. Kudos to the maintenance staff, they deserve a lot of credit for making this a very fine golf course. Thank you, Johnny GK and GolfMoose!
7 Likes.
Played the North from the whites on 11/12, a very fun but difficult round on a day of below average ball striking. Beautiful warm day with little wind. Paired with a nice couple visiting from Dallas. California is so easy to complain about, but people still come here for our weather and coastal views.

North is a more difficult challenge than South, with several long par 4s even from the whites, and many uphill all the way. Almost every hole has an ocean view, and even though South has three holes on the water, overall the North has the most spectacular views. It also has more interesting holes, nothing ordinary here. Several blind or semi-blind shots, a split fairway, a forced carry second shot on 18, a couple high tees to way lower landing areas, a couple infinity greens looking out to the ocean, and one 200 yard par 3–every hole is really a feast for the eyes. It is a course you love to hate—very difficult to score on, several card wrecking holes if not perfectly played, but I always leave wanting another go at it. Like the South, it rewards local knowledge but you do have to be precise or you are going to shed a lot of tears.

The course is in excellent shape overall, slightly more fairway bare spots than South but nothing to complain about. The greens were punched and sanded about a month ago and are just about back to normal very fast speed. Undulations are subtle, some tiering, short putts very difficult due to the speed and you will have some second putts longer than your first. The length for average hitters and the greens are what really make the course difficult.

Great staff, good range, nice carts with GPS, ball washers, and coolers (why aren’t all course’s carts so equipped?), nice pro shop (but pricey, of course), and excellent food at the grill and lounge and small snack shop next to the pro shop. Cart girl seen 4 times.

See my review of the South for comments on “value.” This is a very expensive round but your only regret will be not being able to afford a second try at this spectacular course.
9 Likes.
Back to Pelican Hill for some brief R&R, things here are almost 100% normal now, full service everywhere with some capacity restrictions that simply make it harder to reserve accommodations and golf. Resort guests can get their golf on no problem.

South Course is my favorite of the two great courses here because it has several great holes right on the water, including an excellent short par 4 that can have wicked pin placements at times, and two fun back to back par 3s (one featuring alternative greens). Par 70, with 5 par 3s and three par 5s, there are several long par 4s that will challenge all but the long hitters to reach the green in regulation, and some elevated green complexes that add to the difficulty. There are two holes with challenging forced carries, and the four finishing holes (uphill dogleg 4, longish 3, long and uphill and bunker abundant 5, double forced carry 4) are absolute scorecard wreckers. All that said, average length players can have fun on the white or blue tees and vary their experience. This is a course where I really wonder what slope means, it is way more challenging than other courses with higher slope ratings IMHO. You can play par golf on a good day and then get slaughtered by just one poor shot. But it is a fun course to play, a real treat for the eyes, and always in tip top condition in my experience now and again over the last ten years. Definitely a course that rewards local knowledge, like significantly. Which adds to the challenge and the fun of you can play with a guide. (Forecaddies here are a victim of COVID, sad.)

Aside from length here and there, the greens are what give the course its teeth. Many have two tiers and some wicked tee placement options. The other u durations are subtle. The speed is always fast, and they roll very true, but you will miss a lot of good putts. Short putts are a real bear because of the speed.

The course is in outstanding condition everywhere. Players here are great about filling divots—ball marks not as much, but still better than most places. The greens are receptive to high shots, but still roll out more than you expect. There are many green surrounds that punish slight misses of the green quite severely.

Is the course worth $235 or more a round? It is definitely $100 a round better than most other high end public daily fee courses, but a lot of those courses are not “worth” $100+ themselves, so it is all relative. And given what hotels are charging these days just to stay there, golf here is a real bargain! But is it worth almost $200 more than Rustic Canyon? No. But Rustic is a ridiculously great deal. Is Pebble Beach worth $300 more than here? Comparatively (and leaving out the history factor), no. I will say that you definitely get gold plated treatment here. The staff is exceptional and the pro shop and food all are first rate. If you get a chance to play here, do. You won’t regret the hole in your wallet to have played here. You will see your green fee put to good use on every hole.

Good range, usually mats but sometimes grass. Unfortunately steeply uphill, you can see where your shots land but distance practice is impossible beyond the wedges. Needs a practice bunker and a chipping area to be a quality range, but it is fine. Putting green is 100% true to the course greens and pretty flat for good practice putting, with subtle slopes just like on the course.
12 Likes.
Played 11/8 in the GK/Golf Moose event, managed at the course by Johnny GK. It was a special treat because my 95 year old father, a former champion at this club in the late 80’s, was able to join me for 9 holes. I believe he was 4 over from half regular and half forward tees. Awesome. Our playing partners Victor and Jack were terrific and gobsmacked when they found out my Dad’s age. First time either of us have played there since the early 90’s.

But it would have been special regardless, for the course is fun and pretty and a decent challenge but fair. Ted Robinson designs “pleasant” golf courses IMHO, nothing special but consistently playable with an interesting hole here and there. Bernardo Heights has done an excellent job of maintaining the course as the trees have grown in, and they seem to be very attentive to walkers. There are multiple tees for all levels of play, and the women that played this event seemed to be happy with the course. They have replaced the non-“green” areas with bark mulch and lots of rocks and pathways and the whole place is pleasing to the eye. The course is in excellent condition throughout, greens are not complex and roll very true at medium-fast speeds. No blind shots, nothing tricked up, just a very playable course with reasonable challenges. Pleasant still fits, but I would say this is a cut above most TR designs I have played because it is so well maintained. It is a club that has matured extremely well. The superintendent must be really wise.

Nice range, good mats and grass is saved for members, lack of GPS is odd as the carts are pretty new. Club personnel on hand were excellent.

As usual, check in and shotgun start were silky smooth and easy, all thanks to Johnny, and we finished in 4.5 which is pretty good for a full course with reasonable challenge. Never really waited and did not feel pressure from behind, it was truly a great event. If you are looking for a club to join in the Escondido/Rancho Bernardo area, this is definitely worth your investigation.
9 Likes.
Played a couple rounds from a combo set of tees 9/27 and 28, first time. Always well regarded by reviewers since the Gil Hanse (Rustic, Rio Olympics) renovation about a dozen years ago or so of a William Bell original, it deserves high praise as a municipal course, is a great value in terms of condition, challenge, and design. Nearby Ojai Valley Inn definitely has a real competitor for tourist golf, and the locals clearly prefer Soule. In fact I was hoping to play both, but it is very hard to get on the Inn course if not staying there, which I wasn’t, and my brief trip was not lessened a bit by the repeat at Soule. My wallet also was not lessened nearly as much!

This is a naturally beautiful course in a great mountain valley setting, terrific mountain backdrops are common but the course is not especially hilly and is very walkable, they even rent push trolleys and more players walk than don’t. The playing areas are in excellent shape, the rough is often thin but playable, plenty of trees but lots of openings from among them. The greens are pretty fast and quite undulating, definitely a pace and reading challenge. Ball marks are an issue; the greens are on the soft side of firm, they receive a lot of long shots. There is an excellent mix of hole lengths, at least one reachable par 5 for a decent ball striker, one long par 3, and one short par three with water, downhill, and into the prevailing wind. One long par 4 with a forced carry on the second shot. Several par 4s with elevated greens that make them play longer, also a couple excellent short par 4s. Almost all the holes reward knowledge of the angles, so the course gets more fun as it gets more familiar. 14 and 18 are quite beautiful, and several other holes also are very pleasing to the eye. The greens are small but have the thin lie closely mown surrounds that are a Hanse staple ( as at Rustic). No frills, and some of the non-playing areas are pretty bare, but the golf course and the setting are the only frills needed. The course is fair in the landing areas, but the angles and small greens offer plenty of challenge. It gets a lot of play from learning golfers, but POP was decent for a crowded course, 4.25 and 4.5 despite all the walkers and newbies. I rank this a must play if you are anywhere near the area, and very worth a special trip.

The carts do not have GPS, but marked sprinkler heads always seemed nearby if my handheld had trouble with the background. 4 sets of tee markers, but also two combo sets of tees give everyone a good place from which to play to the design. The range is adequate, the mats seem to be changed reasonably regularly, but the balls need more rotation. Putting green is okay, but almost no straight putts. There is a small practice bunker and very short chipping green that is hard to find, so ask if interested. There is a quasi-starter from inside the pro shop; both days I felt like I was the only one around with a watch, they were running a full tee time behind but seemed totally unaware inside the pro shop, and so there was confusion on the first tee each day. They are working on the restaurant, so if that is important to you, check ahead to see when it is open.

Soule Park really is good for the soul. Highly recommended.
10 Likes.
Played Maderas 8/20 from the whites. Challenging and enjoyable with great mix of yardages available on the scorecard, this is a very expensive round of golf on a very well maintained course with many elevation changes and a lot of challenges for those who cannot keep the ball in the fairway off the tee. Whether the green fee is worth it depends on how much you are comfortable spending in exchange for excellent conditions, beautiful edges, and nice “mountain” views (as opposed to ocean views). My comparison is to Pelican Hill, basically the same place and vibe, but Pelican has spectacular ocean views and 2 courses. Like Pelican, Maderas offers plenty of variety that would make it a great place to play regularly if you can afford it.

Everything about the course was in excellent condition, including the recently lightly sanded greens rolling a little slower than usual but very true. A fair amount of undulation on the greens, often confusing because of the surrounding hills, but knowledge gained with regular play will be rewarded. Same with approach distances. Fair landing areas but little room for error on the sides off the tee—“rough” is more trouble than long grass. Many very interesting holes, you can see it all in front of you but not much is just a straight route to the green, yet no tricked-up holes despite the hillsides on which one often is playing here.

Staff is friendly and helpful, nice pro shop, did not try the food, cart girl was seen four times. Pace of play actually better than one might expect given the trouble on the edges. I had a mediocre ball striking day especially off the tee but managed to stay in the fairway and scored reasonably for a first time round on a course with a learning curve.

Excellent practice range and separate short game area with several target greens and bunkers. But can someone tell me why a short game area with lots of room so seldom allows for fairly straight chipping practice? The short game area greens here are small and moundy and the edges also are very undulating, can’t really calibrate very well. But maybe that’s just me. Practice bunkers really good. Still, a very good place to practice one’s entire game.

First impression highly favorable. I will play here again when in the area. It is a fun, fair, challenge in lovely surroundings, but too steep a price for regular visits.
12 Likes.
Played two days straight 8/19 and 8/20 and had fun because, well, golf, but the course is in only fair to poor condition. Greens were okay, tee boxes okay, traps actually good, but everything else was disappointing; numerous bare spots throughout the fairway and especially the rough. The routing is decent with some good variety, and even when thin the fairway was okay to hit from, but one par 5 is reduced to a par three and it is just hard to overlook the severely compromised fairways, especially if playing well. An unfortunate and unsightly drainage ditch interferes unreasonably with the tee shot on 1 and the second shot on 18, magnifying the feeling that the course is just run down. Golf carts without GPS just add to that feeling. The pro shop people and starters were great. Very poor driving range shared with a private club next door whose lush green fairways beckoned enticingly. Worst mats I have hit from in a very long time, and useless targets.

Overall cannot recommend the place. I stayed here two nights on a separate non-golf trip, and the rooms match the course—tired and run down and ragged around the edges. This entire place needs a serious facelift and upgrade. Maderas is nearby and expensive, but at least there you can understand the fee. Right now Rancho Bernardo Inn should pay you to play its course. Or just close it down and get it fixed.
10 Likes.
Finally was able to make a GK outing Aug 16, and had a blast. Was grouped at random with others who had zero connections to one another except for GK membership, and my fellow GKers did not disappoint. Would have had a great time with them anywhere, but Valencia CC made it all the more enjoyable.

Valencia CC feels like a “classic” metropolitan area course—interesting routing and a variety of holes, lots of trees, strategic off the tee, walkable, and relatively small greens with several surprises for the uninitiated. One other surprise is the amount of water on the course, as there are several holes where it comes into play and at least one where you can’t see it until perhaps too late. Overall this is a course that begs you to play it again because good scoring is available on a good ball striking day once you know your way around. But there is plenty of challenge even for the big hitters. I used every club in the bag on a pretty good ball striking day. It is easy to understand why this course has hosted the PGA Tour and the Champions Tour on several occasions. I finished the day wanting to play again and to inquire about membership despite its distance from my home. Definitely could be worth a regular drive.

The course is in very good shape overall, the one bad mark being the rough, which was fairly thin and often downright dirt alone. It appears to me that the Superintendent has dealt with dry conditions by focusing water where it is most needed, the fairways and greens and tees and especially the landing areas and green surrounds. For example, fairways often were a bit brown and thin just off the tee and on the edges and then into the rough, but good shots were rewarded with excellent turf for the next strike. And while missing the fairway off the tee often gets you into some trees, there were good exit options available from easy to risky. The same was true on approaches, as many greens clearly have red light and green light areas that would be fun to learn over time. Green surrounds were lush and challenging. Basically every shot makes you think.

The greens were exceptional despite having recently been lightly sanded. They rolled quite true and on the fast side of medium speed; they ordinarily must be pretty fast. Good putts were rewarded. Most of the green contours are straightforward, but a few are quite diabolical with buried elephants and severe runoffs; these impacted approaches more than putts, there a few greens that are really difficult to hit and hold without advance awareness and precision. I made more 8-10 footers that I usually do, and a couple long putts as well. Even some longish irons held the receptive greens. Very impressive greens overall despite the recent sanding.

As mentioned, the rough was in, well, rough shape in a lot of places, very thin to non-existent turf. I think this is a choice due to water conservation, and a good choice of one has to be made. The tees were flat and in fine shape.

I practiced/warmed up elsewhere because I knew the range would be crowded, but the range appears to be adequate with grass and mats available. I did not see a dedicated short game area. The practice putting green is large and consistent with the greens on the course, and has plenty of places to practice straight putts and speed (which many practice greens surprisingly lack).

It also is notable that pace of play was very good despite having two groups start on every hole. We started on 18 as the “B” group, a par five with several hills and valleys and potentially two blind shots, so that first hole was quite slow to finish, but after that we made it around quite comfortably and finished about 4.5, kind of amazing for as full as the course was.

Final comment is that I was pleased to know that so many GKers and Golf Mooseheads are great course custodians: Fairway divots we’re mostly filled and ballmarks on greens were virtually all repaired.

Congrats to Johnny GK and to Golf Moose for a great event, and many thanks to Valencia CC and its members for letting us all give their excellent course a try. I welcome the chance to play there again, this is the sort of course that rewards yet still challenges regular play. Good players here could take their game anywhere.
9 Likes.
Played the Hanse combo tees Monday Aug 9. Course in fine shape overall, but beginning to show some effects from dry spring and summer, quite a few bare spots around the edges and creeping into the fairways. I also played poorly, so saw more of those edges than usual! Greens are in great condition but running pretty slow. Because of the way the course is laid out and the number of walkers, a fast round here is 4:15 with 4.5 more normal and 4:45 not unusual—but this Monday it was 5+ and slow from the get go at 11:30. Hard to say what the issue was other than lots of play. I applaud walkers and love that myself, and this course is quite walkable except for the very long distances from green to tee on a third of the holes. This really does tend to slow play except for the regulars who know how to stay ahead. That and a range in fairly poor condition prevent Rustic from my top tier, but it is an excellent value and a very unique course without being quirky. Recommended but plan for a long day regardless of your game. And this is not a beginner or high handicapper friendly course.
12 Likes.
Third time playing Tierra Rejada since moving to TOaks a year ago. Rode the blues as a mid afternoon single.

I REALLY want to like this course, it is 8 minutes away, but after giving it several chances I now feel I can write a fair review and say this really is not a very good golf course. It feels like a long miniature golf course, missing only the clown’s mouth. Nice staff, nice grill, good practice facilities on grass with a bunker and separate chipping area and expansive practice green. Bunkers are really good, great sand. 13 and 14 are two of the prettiest holes you ever will see, I believe the stream on the left side of 13 is new and it is beautiful. I give the groundscrew credit, the drainage issues alone must be a nightmare, but the place is in pretty good condition overall under what I am sure are challenging conditions. But none of these positives, even taken together, makes up for the serious deficiencies of the course overall.

First, I first played the course when the pandemic was new and supposedly you could not take a cart. So I walked it. This course is not walkable. At all. I honestly can’t believe they let anyone try. Turns out you just had to ask and they would give you a cart. But the point is that this course is on the side of a high hill with constant severe elevation changes that make for several silly holes with several hundred feet of drop between tee and fairway. One such hole on a layout is fun, several make it gimmicky. And some severe uphill holes create blind shots into the green. For example, 10 is a long uphill par 4 with a totally unnecessary false front on the raised green you already can’t see. All of this also contributes to slow pace of play, though today wasn’t bad at all. But I want to play at a place that I could walk if need be some languid late afternoon. Not happening here.

Second, four of the first five holes have blind shots. 1 is a long par five with a hidden pond on the high ground by the green, invisible until you have already hit your third shot unless you hit two career opening shots. 2 is a tight par three you can see, but the next several holes all have blind shots. Even if familiar with the course, you have to walk or ride ahead to try to aim your second shot if not the tee shot. Like the very severe elevation changes, a blind shot or two in 18 holes is okay, but this is borderline ridiculous and occurs later on the course as well. It might be more manageable if the carts had GPS, but they don’t, which is really kind of hard to believe these days generally, but is ridiculous on this course.

Next, there are several holes, especially on the back 9, where the tee shot feels like you are hitting directly into the adjacent hole’s golfers coming toward you. It feels like the course once had fewer holes and they squeezed a few more in to make 18. That said, there a couple wide open tee shots and then several very narrow ones. 18 is a par five that feels like it was just shoved in against the hillside, and doglegs both ways; 17 is a 100 yard very downhill par 3 that also feels like it was shoved in to make 18.

The card shows a combo set of tees, but blues are almost 6600 and the combo drops down to 6100. The place really needs something in between those two lengths, they could easily fix that with a different tee selection on the combo set of tees.

The course feels contrived, and is difficult mostly because of design flaws, IMHO. I don’t t mind difficult if my good shots are mostly rewarded, but here good shots often are u reasonably penalized. 9 is a long par five with a false front AND a HUGE ridge in the center of the green, neither needed to defend the hole, and both unreasonably penalize a good third shot—hard os one thing but a course should not rely on luck. Some quirky courses have a charm that grows on you over time, but I can’t see this happening here. There are too many good courses in this area to spend one’s time here. The staff deserves an A for effort, but this design is just untenable.
11 Likes.
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