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Played on December 29th. Cold morning. One hour + frost delay. So we teed off around 930-945. We were the first group out after a junior girls tournament (27 players) and there was half hour between their last group and us (a 4some). We caught the girls on the 3rd hole, where there were 4, yes 4 groups including us. One group on the green, one on the fairway, and 2 on the tee. We got to the 6th hole and we had been on the course for 2 hours....bye bye. Left the course. What we saw of the course it was in very good condition, well at least 6 holes were! Greens were a bit firm, but would hold, they were fast. Wide and forgiving fairways in very good condition. Can't comment on the sand as I wasn't in any bunkers. Tee boxes were good, a few divots on a couple of boxes. Service was good.
Played the Victory course for the first time today. It was a cold and very windy day....we teed off at 0930 and it was 41F, with a cold wind steady at 20 mph with gusts exceeding that. Due to recent heavy rains it was cart path only. 2 things, don't even consider walking this course, and if it is cart path only....leave, some places it is virtually impossible to get from the cart path to the ball without leaving the cart 20-30 yards ahead of or behind of where you would need to walk to your ball....lots of rocks, rocky waste area, "valley's" which is not fun nor practical. As it was extremely windy and cold today it wasn't really lots of fun. (those who played Rams Hill in early December in the GK Plays in the wind....this was worse!!!) The course was generally in good shape, the rains made some areas soggy, and there was some standing water on the fairways-not too much but some. I totally understand why they were cart path only but it's a pain. The fairways were good, greens have lot of drop off areas, are extremely undulating, and are exceptionally fast downgrain and slow upgrain. If you have a downhill, downgrain putt or chip it will be very difficult to get the right weight and distance-very challenging that way. The greens were in excellent condition, as were the tee boxes. Was only in the sand once and it was thin but ok. I found that the fairway bunkers had high banks/lips (so did playing partners) in that we had to essentially blast out sideways or blast like a greenside bunker as the lip was too high/steep to use anything but a sand wedge or PW at best---pretty penalizing on a par 5 or ling par 4. The design of the greens may cause some real problems in the future as there may not be many places to put the hole. It is a pretty course, nice views. Customer service good, staff friendly beer cart was around regularly. There is not club house, very small (and likely temporary) pro-shop. It is vastly different from its older sister down the road.
2 round of the day, this one at Desert Willow, Firecliff course, GK Guru's Dave H, Johnny GK and Rob for our group. I really enjoy Desert Willow and especially the Firecliff course, made evenmore enjoyable because of the great GK'ers, a great group of guys the last 3 days!!!. The course was in immaculate shape. Tee boxes, fairways, bunkers, rough and especially the greens were absolutely top notch. Greens were running fast, were thought maybe 10-10.5 + on stimp. Some of the pin placements were difficult for sure, but the greens would hold a shot no problem, I prefer to putt on fast greens. I had no complaints whatsoever about the course and the conditions. Customer service again was excellent, even the cart attendant thanked us for coming out! Thanks Johnny GK for setting this, and the earlier round up.
Played early morning round with a group of GK Gurus. Front 9 was still fairly damp mostly from heavy dew I am assuming. Greens tended to be wet/damp as well for the front 9 too. Tee boxes throughout were good to very good, as were the fairways. I noted that the greens on the front 9 were pock marked, although the ball marks had been fixed for the most part, they were still somewhat pock marked, oddly the greens were not on the back nine. Not too sure why, perhaps early morning rounds and the greens are softer then dry out a bit on the back. Most putts were not affected by that issue though, as most ran true and smooth. Speed today was a bit slow for most of our liking, they were running ok. Sand was good, lots of sand in bunkers, and well taken care of. Service, as usual at this course, was excellent. We had to leave right after the round and asked that the clubs be sent up right away and they did just that, almost before we got up top ourselves. This course is usually always in excellent shape, with 6 tee boxes to choose from. It tends to be a "rolling" course with lots of elevation changes and mounds, certainly on the front 9.
Played January 8th with fellow GK'ers George E, Ron C and David H. First off the tee at 7:09 am, overcast morning but fairly warm actually. First time playing the course for 3 of us. The contrast between the dormant grass (rough) and the fairways/greens is always nice looking to me. For the most part the course is laid out in front of you, what you see is what you get. There are exceptions more particularly on the back nine. The front 9 is fairly wide open, lots of (dormant) rough and water does and will come into play on several holes. The fairways aren't necessarily all the wide so your t-shot has to fairly accurate, however the rough (as mentioned dormant when we played) is fairly easy to play out of, your ball may sit down a bit in the rough but certainly playable. The back 9 has some pretty tight looking holes and there are a few holes on the back nine where houses line the fairways. I think on those holes the fairways look narrower than they actually are. On the back nine the mountains will and do come into play. On some holes you have to know where to hit the fairway or you may be cut off from going for/seeing the green. There are some real picturesque holes on the back 9 especially. The greens aren't huge and there are some diabolical (front) pin placements, which makes it all the more challenging (and fun?). The course conditions were excellent, the greens weren't all the fast as we were playing early and it was "humid" at least for the PSP area, but ran true and would hold a shot. Fairways were great, not necessarily a lot of roll out (dampness again). Tee boxes were very good too, there are several sets of tees, so to enjoy your round pick the best one for your abilities. Starter and the staff were all helpful and very accommodating. As always it's great to play with fellow GK'ers and today was no different. Had a lot of fun, good guys to play with. Thanks to La Quinta and to Johnny for arranging a great track.
Played Dec. 31st, was down to play in GK Plays event later in the week, hadn't swung a club in 4 months, and I knew that Indian Canyons is not the most difficult course and a good course to get back in the groove, so to speak. You can get into some trouble here, but generally it's a player friendly track, even if you miss the fairway wildly you are likely ok, you just may be on another fairway. There is some water that definitely can come into play. Greens were good, rolled true, they were a bit soft today, and ran a bit slower. Fairways and rough were good, as were the tee boxes. Pleasant track, good for an opening game, won't punish you too much.
First time playing Mountain View, played Firecliff in the past and as it just came out of overseed I decided on Mountain View. It is quite different from Firecliff, I don't think the greens are as large as Firecliff, There is water which comes into play on the back nine for sure. Well placed bunkers, sand was good. Fairways are for the most part quite generous, and the rough isn't that difficult. Greens are in very good condition, ran true, but I found them to have some very subtle breaks. Service was good, rates at Desert Willow are always pretty high, but both courses are good.
I too played BSR Saturday morning early. I concur with the recent review. The course is in really good condition, the greens may be in the best shape that I have ever seen them, they were firm but would certainly hold a shot, and putted true, no bumps or bare spots. The black tees are a pretty decent challenge, they do have blended or resort tees I think they call them, a combination of black and blue tees. There are a couple of very long par 3's. Not an overly difficult course but certainly can be challenging, with very good bunker placements.
Played again Friday, St. Paddy's day, 1 pm tee time ($35), very hot day. The course was in good shape, and it appears as of they have sorted out the previous water issues, and whatever other issues they have had in the past several years. Tee boxes were good, fairways and greens were the best I have seen them in years. Playing in the afternoon as we did, the greens were starting to dry out a bit, and although the stimp rating said only running at 9.5 they were running faster than that. As I always say, I really like the layout/design and hopefully they can maintain the course in good shape!
Played on Dec. 16th, had a 10 am tee time, but there were so many cancellations because of the weather forecast, we went out at 0930. It was a beautiful day, no one in front of us that we could see at all, and a group was 3+ holes behind us. We were a 3some and played in 3 1/2 hours. Greens were excellent, smooth and fast. There are some very subtle breaks on these greens. They were running pretty fast today. The rest of the course was in great shape, much much better than SilverRock which I played the day before, and these I.W. courses get lots of play. I don't know what the rack rate was but I have a friend who is a resident so they and their guests get a great rate. I've always thought the Players course is more difficult than the Celb. course, but not according to the ratings. Good track to play. If you have trouble getting tee times, wait until 2 days before you are playing as the course gets tee times back from the 2 hotels on property, so there may be (better) times available or times you want.
I've wanted to play this course for several years now, but circumstances ( their flood, my schedule etc.) haven't allowed me to do so. I booked a time on line a couple of weeks before I played, paid $109 for a 10 a.m. tee time. Crazy thing is that although I booked to play on a Thursday there were the same number of tee times on the Wednesday but they were $145-$155, I guess I just don't understand "dynamic pricing". You can also call the pro-shop for tee times. On to the course. The driving range, practice area, putting greens and first tee are a loooong ways away from the club house, probably set up for the original planned housing/retail/hotel development that never took place. This is a tough track, especially playing it for the first time, and/or without someone who has. Although carts have GPS it doesn't really give you the true bearing of the course. Lots of bunkers, many hidden from the tee box, and greens are well bunkered. I must say I was somewhat surprised at the poor condition of the greens, they were bumpy, although would hold a good shot in. There were many sand/mix filled ball marks, and in fact there are grounds crew members who actually go on the green and "repair?" the ball marks with this mix, so not only are they bumpy but look very odd with different colours. Fairways were in good shape, rough was fairly long and at times hard to hit out of. Bunkers were generally consistent, however some fairway bunkers were a bit thin, that can be good for a fairway bunker though. There are some really tough holes here, especially on the (current) back nine. We played the blue/white combo tees and that was plenty for us. Back nine has some holes right along the mountain(s) and the big horn sheep wander on down. We were done in 4 1/2 hrs, but it could have been longer had we given thought to our shots, which after a while became futile, you just didn't know where to hit it to. Par 3's from ridiculously simple to ludicrously difficult. Although I am glad I played it, I won't go back anytime soon. Rumor always had it the pro's wanted out of the " Bob Hope" rota as it was too difficult/goofy. I understand that the course is going to be re-designed as the housing/retail/hotel development is about to go ahead, and likely make it more "user friendly". You can have a tough course that IS user friendly. Service was very good.
Returned to this course on December 13th. It is one of my favorites and likely my favorite course in the valley. It was in excellent shape through all phases of the track. The greens were fast and held a well struck shot. Fairways and tees were also excellent. Bunkers, I was in a few today, had lots of sand, and were fluffy, but most importantly consistent. The fairways here are fairly generous, but if you do miss them you will likely be in the sand, desert or water. Greens are fairly big and running pretty quick on this day. It is important to hit to the correct level on the green (gee that's a revelation isn't it?) , otherwise you'll be looking at the possibility of a long breaking putt. There was a small tournament in front of us, so the pace of play was a bit slow, but we were still done in 4hrs 15 mins. They have a concession (again) at the 10th tee so you don't have to make the trek to the clubhouse restaurant to grab a bite or a drink. Service was good, their online rate for this round was $67 for a 10 a.m. tee time, which I think was excellent rate for this course. They usually do have good/affordable rates. 5 minute drive from the airport so easy access for your opening, or one final round if you're flying in or out of PSP.
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