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First time here yesterday; It's a nice layout and fairly wide open with the exception of a couple of wash areas running the length of the course. This is probably one of the closest courses to the LA area; it's basically just east of Escena and across the I-10 from Desert Dunes. Great customer service and it's a really laid back atmosphere.

Practice area includes a large putting green and a nice, all-grass range. Range balls are not included, so be sure to purchase in the proshop if you want to hit.

Greens: I thought they ran fairly fast and smooth. I did fix a few ball marks here and there, but overall, these greens were very nice. Most of them were large but some angles to them could see you miss if you are not accurate and are trying to pin hunt rather than shoot for the fat part of the green.

Fairways and rough: Good grass coverage throughout; however, some of the fairways had some thin hot spots. It was not bad by any means and since there was good roll out on fairway shots I found it unlikely that balls would just come to rest on any of those areas.

Bunkers: We played the Boulder Course, but there were many pebbles and rocks in the otherwise well-maintained bunkers. Most guys had no issues hitting out of them.

Tees: I played the Combo tees (blue/white) then the white tees for my second round. All were good and tightly mowed.

Native areas: The course appears to be built within the flood plain of Whitewater creek and it's no wonder that there has been some flood damage in the past.

POP was about 3 hrs. per round and that's really good for me. When it gets hot in the desert afternoon rounds can be brutal; luckily for us it was a fine day and temps barely got above 100 by late in the second round.

Overall, I like the course and will most likely return here in the future!
6 Likes.
Played today with the GK outing, second group out. POP at about 5 hrs. which is typical here on a Sunday. Overall course conditions are great. Lots of great turf coverage everywhere and nice greens with some very tricky pin positions today on many of the holes.

Greens rolled smooth and medium fast. They were somewhat soft and held most any decently struck approach. I did fix quite a few ball marks, though.

Fairways were really nice with ample turf to hit from and very few areas in distress, if any.

Rough was very nice, but the farther you got from the fairway it could get dicey. The areas of deep kikuyu have been pared back quite a bit from days of old. However, there are lots of native areas which will swallow your ball and if you're luck enough to find it, then it will be a task to hit out of.

Bunkers looked good and there were rakes available; if only folks started using them again, LOL.

Tees were level and had good grass coverage so no issues there.

Overall, I think this is one of the best courses around; it has lots of character and presents a good challenge for most any golfer. I look forward to coming back here soon.
10 Likes.
I played here last Sunday, 6:40 tee time; $78 riding; POP 4:15. The last time I played here it was with a GK event 5 years ago. I recall somewhat better conditions then, but it's not bad now. Mostly good, playable conditions throughout the course. It was somewhat firm most everywhere, except for the greens, which tells me that they probably need to dial in that irrigation better.

Greens: The greens were receptive to most shots and I had no problem getting balls to stick. I fixed quite a number of ball marks all day so, although a bit disappointing, it tells me that they were well moisturized. They were quick and had subtle breaks that I failed to read properly many times.

Fairways and rough: Well, I did not find too many fairways, but my shots tended to roll through with a lot of momentum. They were firm and straw-color to light green in most areas exposed to the sun; other areas through the trees tended to be a bit greener/lusher. The rough was about 1.5" and was not very penal.

Bunkers: No rakes were seen. I was not in any, but the sand was nice, light-colored, and seemed easy enough for my playing partners to hit from.

Tees: We played the White tees. They all were level and it was easy to find a place to hit from.

My overall experience was good. I arrived early enough to hit some range balls. We were hitting from the grass and there were a handful of targets to hit to. The starter at Hole 1/Range was friendly and helpful. For $78 I kind of thought overall conditions would be better; I don't know if it's really worth it. Maybe I thought it would be nicer. I did see the beverage cart once, but we did start early. Also, the POP was not all that good considering it was virtually the crack of dawn. I'm told that it's often like that here.
13 Likes.
Played yesterday afternoon, match play with roarksown1, teeing off at 1:50 p.m. I have not played here for at least a few years, but I do believe that course conditions here have not changed considerably. Lots of roll on thin fairways, not too deep rough, and relatively slow greens. POP was about 4.5 hours. This is one of the flattest courses around and is conducive to walking, although we rode in a shared cart. I picked up a Senior Players Card for $25 and the riding rate was $33. The carts do have a decent GPS showing a color map where you can touch to see yardages; the green/approach view only gives you front, middle, back. No ice chest (there was a hook for one) and no sand bottles.

Tees: We played the blue tees, 6564 yards, but who's counting? All tees here are fairly generous and flat. No issues and finding a decent spot to tee from is easy.

Fairways and rough: There is a slight difference in the height of the cuts, but not too much. If you hit a fairway, count on some decent rollout. The rough will slow the roll a bit but it's not very penal unless you get unlucky. Your ball will be sitting up much of the time. There are a number of large trees that could block a second or third shot on most holes. Mostly, it is not a problem.

Bunkers: No rakes, but it appears that the bunkers had been groomed. The sand looked fairly hard and crusty. A couple were wet at the low ends.

Greens: They were mostly slow. Uphill putts really needed some effort and leaving a downhill putt short was a good possibility, too. I think Hole 9 was noticeably faster and looked better that the other greens. Robert said he thinks it's because it is near to and within visual range of the clubhouse. I tend to agree with that. There were only a couple of ball marks that needed fixing here and there but they looked fresh and were easy to repair.

Overall, it was nice. The pace was a little slow for my liking, but that's what you get late in the day at a LA City muni. No rakes, no sand bottles, or divot mix on the par 3 tees, no ball washers. The grass is mostly kikuyu and Bermuda, except for the bentgrass greens. Get used to a dull green to brownish color everywhere. A few spots are bare ground, but there's not too much of that. It is hard to lose a ball here and we both played the course using one ball each. LA City has multiple choices and this course is likely to be my number 5 or 6 choice. If you need to get your game back on track, this is the number one place to do it.
6 Likes.
Match play last Tuesday afternoon with PokerGuy0826. Took advantage of a senior replay at $19 riding. Probably the deal of the year right there. The course is as nice as I remember it. The greens were medium fast to fast, especially downhill putts. They did hold most shots but were firm enough to not leave a lot of ball marks. The ones I did fix were shallow. Fairways and rough almost always gave me a good lie with plenty of turf under my ball (except that one time I was in a divot in the rough). The sand seemed plentiful enough, although it seemed like they all had a layer of crust. Even though there were rakes (I was told they just put them out that day) many bunkers had unraked footprints. We all played the Gold tees and they were fine with no issues finding a level place to tee off from. Good times, not too far from my house, and a nice rate. I guess I will have to make time to come back soon.
9 Likes.
Great day on Saturday with GK, playing one of my favorite courses in the desert. Great practice area and a very nice clubhouse facility with great customer service from all staff. I was in the last group with Nick, Jay, and Joe.

The course is currently in great shape. You could see the Bermuda grass beginning to pop up in the greens, but they rolled true and fast. The greens were firm and there were few ball marks to fix.

The fairways and rough were in excellent shape. I did not see any thin areas and it looked pristine from tee to green. The rough was not penal at all; that's a plus in my book. Fairways were generous with great landing areas and good roll.

Tees were great as well. I played the Purple/Lavender combo. All were level and had nice grass to hit from; maybe a little beat up on the par 3's but that's to be expected.

Bunkers were all good. I think Nick and I had several sand saves between us on the front nine alone. It was nice to have rakes available for use. Not used to seeing that recently.

This is a great course overall for appearance and it just fits my eye for my game. Carts are very comfortable and have a really nice GPS screen. The staff is attentive and super helpful. The beverage cart came by often and there is water and ice available at the restrooms. All in all a great course and I hope to make it back here often.
7 Likes.
I played late yesterday (Valley-Desert nines). Currently, they are offering something new: 2:00 p.m. shotgun, $45 riding, for all times between 2:00 and 4:20ish. I was given the option of going out a little earlier on the Mountain-Desert routing, but it looked like there were quite a few groups on that route. The starter got me out at 2:00 on Valley Hole 2 and it was wide open with no waiting for me until I got to my last hole. POP at just about 2.5 hours. I played multiple shots during the round, keeping score with my first shot (good, bad, and ugly).

Greens: 6/10: While the PPG was noticeable bumpy (poa), the rest of the greens were a little better. It appeared that new holes were not cut today and they all appeared somewhat shaggy. Not a lot of ball marks (kind of firm) and they rolled medium-slow to medium-fast. If I had to guess, maybe 8.5'-9.0'.

Fairways and rough: 5/10: Conditions of the fairways was just okay. There were the occasional areas of wetness and some areas that were dry and bare. Mostly, though, there was decent coverage and I did not always have poor lies. Good roll on most of my shots, although I only hit a couple of fairways. The rough could be better, but the further you get from the center of the fairway the worse conditions get. Your ball might end up on wood chips, dirt, or in the desert scrub, so try to keep it down the middle, okay!

Tees: 4/10: I played the blue tees but all were in need of mowing. The grass was very deep and the ground was a little uneven on many tees. I would say it was not good at all; playable, but not what you would expect on a course with "Country Club" in the name.

Bunkers: 6/10: I was in a couple greenside bunkers on Hole 3, Valley, and they were great to hit from. The sand appeared a little wet, but it was not hard packed and I found it fairly easy to hit the ball. Maybe too easy as I went bunker to bunker there.

All told, I could see myself playing here often in the late afternoon for the $45 M-Th or $55 on Fridays. I wish they would step up the maintenance and expand the landing areas. It's a tough landscape and very challenging for the average golfer with many forced carries and hazards. Club selection, course management, and hitting your targets are key to scoring well here. With the owner wanting to build a resort and related hotel facilities, he's going to want to have a bigger draw than just a mediocre golf course. Sand Canyon is close to being a really great course once again, I just think the maintenance needs to pick up a bit.
9 Likes.
Played here Friday, 4/2/21, walking for $40 at 9:30. Paired up with a couple of brothers who rode in separate carts. POP was about 4:10 as we followed the groups ahead. No real backups at any time, although it seemed we waited at times on the foursome ahead to hit our tee shots.

Course conditions were okay; I haven't played here since February 2019. I don't recall if that's before American Golf took over, but it definitely is not the same caliber of course maintenance now. Lots of winter dormancy and most everything was just a pale green. It's not that conditions are bad, they are just not as good as I remember.

Greens: 6/10: A little slower (I forgot to check if the starter shack had the old chalkboard telling the current speed that the greens were cut to). I would say they rolled nicely and were not overly quick. If I had to guess a speed, probably around an 8 or 9. It made it easier to be more aggressive on putts without having to worry about running way past the hole. Also, notably, the greens and aprons were quite a bit greener than the surrounding grass.

Fairways and rough: 6/10: There were areas where the grass was coming back, and I never really had a bad lie. Lots of good rollout on tee shots, though. There's turf, but it's not yet greening up. As the weather gets warmer, I'm sure it will look very nice. Right now it's just barely greening up. The rough was probably a half inch longer on the cut than the fairways, so it was not penal.

Tees: 6/10: We played the white tees. The teeing ground here is rather large and the markers were placed about 20' apart on most tees so there was ample room to pick a spot to hit from. All were mostly level with no real deep divots.

Bunkers: 6/10: I was in 5 bunkers; three greenside and two fairway. They were all a little wet, except the greenside bunker left of 5 green. All had decent sand which was plentiful and soft. I had no problems hitting out and made one of three sand saves.

It has been a while since playing here and I do look forward to more rounds later this year as the inland heat sets in. I am curious as to what this once top-notch muni looks like under American Golf management during the height of summer.
11 Likes.
I played with Kevin (t8fish) and his buddies Pete and Nathan last Friday afternoon. Good walking rate of $32. No putting greens were open and no cash or AMEX card accepted at check in; IMO this is bs, but that's another story. All in all, a really nice afternoon of golf and we finished about 30 minutes before it got dark. Pace was all on us as we did not wait on any shots.

Greens: 6/10: The greens rolled medium fast with some perceptible bumpiness only occasionally. They were fairly firm and there were very few ball marks to be repaired. I found that you had to be careful with your chips and pitches to keep the ball on the dance floor.

Fairways and rough: 6/10: Good rollout on the short grass and decent lies all around. The grass coverage was good and mowed to a consistent height. Not wet at all and really easy to hit from.

Tees: 6/10: They were level and had ample amounts of turf coverage. We played the white tees and they were in good condition; from my recollection, I saw no issues with the other tees.

Bunkers: 6/10: I was in at least one bunker and it appeared to have decent sand; it was fairly easy to hit from despite it really having a hard pan under and inch and a half of loose sand. No rakes, so finding an area that did not have footprints was just a matter of luck.

Overall, I like this course; I have many good memories here. I haven't played here since August 2018, so it was nice to come back. I can recommend it.
9 Likes.
Great course conditions at the Wolf on Saturday. It was a little cold, though, and golfing with a windbreaker is not my forte. When the wind wasn't blowing, it was quite pleasant and felt somewhat warm. Spectacular views of the snow on the nearby mountains and the clouds gave the sky a wonderful palette of textures.

Enough about the weather; on to the course conditions:

Greens: 9.9/10; I can seriously say that these greens were in top-notch condition. There were a few shallow ball marks here and there that were easily fixed. Smooth and fast, just how I like them. I found it no too terribly hard to hold the greens when I did hit them on approach, and I don't have a lot of spin on my shots.

Fairways: 9.5/10; Great turf coverage all around and a nice roll out on most shots. I hit low drives anyway, so it was a benefit to me when I did hit the fairway. I never had a real tight lie and only chili dipped a good lie once. A couple of popular lay up areas had a number of divots to be filled (most were) but nothing too terrible. In fact, I can say these were the best fairways I have hit from since Pebble Beach.

Rough: 9/10; Great coverage and I did not see any poor or thin areas. We were given a tip to play the ball back in your stance because the rough will grab your club. That was good advice and it helped me a few times when I could execute it properly. The rough was not too deep and my ball sat up nearly every time.

Tees: 9/10; We played the Yellow tees and they were excellent without a lot of divots or unevenness. It was easy to find a level spot to place a tee.

Bunkers: 8/10; No rakes, so there were a few footprints to deal with but overall the bunker sand was great. It was a very light, white color and of medium density. I found it fairly easy to hit from; unfortunately, my bunker play has deteriorated over the years. That's on me. All the turf surrounding the bunkers was mowed and trimmed nicely. No grass or debris in the bunkers; no issues of any kind. If there were rakes and everyone raked their footprints, then I would be giving them a 9.9/10. That's how good they were.

My overall impression is that this is the best desert golf course that I have played ever. Course conditions, customer service, the layout and views are par excellence. I hope to return here this year and play all three courses. The only drawback is I really don't like having to pay a non-resident premium. The website tee times are $99 non-resident and $65 for Clark County residents; ouch! Maybe I will move here, lol.

Thank you Johnny GK and Las Vegas Paiute Golf Resort. It was a good day of golf and I really enjoyed the time spent with my fellow GKers.
16 Likes.
What a great golf course! Really nice conditions throughout the course. As you drive up the entrance road you will catch glimpses of the Mountain View course. It’s a carpet of lush, green turf. The Firecliff course was just as lush and green. POP was right at 4.5 hours.

The greens were on the smaller side but really good. Lots of undulations, smooth surfaces, no ball marks. They rolled true and ran fairly fast at about 10-11. They were on the firm side, so you really had to hit good shots in or land short of the pin and allow for some release. These are the best greens I have played in a while.

Fairways and rough were just as lush and green. I never had a tight or thin lie. There’s a really good mat of turf to hit from. Not as wide as I would like, but generous enough for most golfers.

Tees were good, although there were some areas on the par 3’s with a fair amount of divots, mostly on the Purple tees. Like many of the greens, the tee boxes tended to be on the smaller side.

Bunkers were plentiful and in great condition. They all have rakes and the sand is light and easy to hit from.

There’s a lot of great holes and good chances to score well; unfortunately, I didn’t. Anyway, I had fun and got to golf with a good group of guys. Customer service was amazing and the course is in prime shape.
12 Likes.
I played here Friday, going as a single, played the Mountain and Valley nines. 8:00 a.m. The starter said there were foursomes ahead and behind me and the course looked pretty busy despite what looked like a pretty open online tee sheet the night before. $55 to ride as a senior. POP was about 3:45, with a little waiting on the last three holes.

Currently, I would rate the course as fair conditions. It's in the middle of winter now and of course the Bermuda is dormant. There is still a pale green color to the turf, but some areas seemed dry and there was the occasional tight lie with little to no turf under your ball. Be careful walking around because there are many uneven areas where burrowing animals (ground squirrels, likely) are wreaking havoc. I did not see any traps set, but this course could employ someone full time just to kill rodents.

Greens: They were a bit bumpy on the first few holes of the Mountain Course, my front nine. A maintenance guy came around by hole 6, working his way back, rolling the greens with a brand new roller (I did have a conversation with Rafael, the maintenance Superintendent the day before on something unrelated and he showed me a picture of his new machine). After that the greens seemed smoother and faster. There were many unrepaired or poorly repaired ball marks that I did my best to fix as many as I saw. At least one green had a ground squirrel digging in it (Valley Hole 7) and there was another green with some diseased turf ( I thing it was Valley Hole 6). Overall, the greens were mostly good; I would rate a 7/10.

Fairways and rough: Lots of good lies in most places. Some areas were a little thin and dry. As you get further from the center of the fairways it gets worse. The rough was a mixed bag of thick and thin turf. Some dormant Bermuda and some fescue or winter ryegrass.

Tees: I found them to be mostly level (I played the blue tees) and the few that were not just right had only slight deviations from level. There were no issues finding a good place to tee up and swing away. A couple of the par threes were a little beat up. Valley Hole 7 tee was moved back to the blacks (Yikes) for a nice 200+ yard downhill shot; I assume it's to allow some time for the blue teeing ground to heal.

Bunkers: The sand looked good around the greens and actually seemed okay in the fairway bunkers as well. No rakes (another dumb Covid idea) in any of the bunkers.

My overall impression is that this course is likely worth the $55 I paid and probably not much more. The tee times are sort of weird to me, but I guess that's probably a thing when you have 3 nines to rotate golfers on. Sunrise to about 8:20 starts on all three, then new times starting around 11:10. You would think that 10 minute tee times would be enough to keep the pace good, but there's always folks who just want to maximize their time out there without actually paying for and playing a second round. Like I said, my pace was great (and I was taking my time) until I got to the last three holes. I think the course could be in better shape, but at what cost to the golfing public?
11 Likes.
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